The Thoroughly Disreputable Incest Digest ========================================= Issue 4 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- I think the answers you are getting to your question on incest are one-sided.I agree that incest is much large than is admitted, having several friendsthat have participated in it. However, it is not likely for someone who has suffered because of it to answer to your question because of the shame they feel. I will tell you about one of my friends. Her father is a Minister at a Methodus church. She has two brothers who are older than her. Her father started molesting the brothers at at an early age (not sure when). They believed it to be OK since their father did it to them, so they both tried it out on her (my friend). For 7 years her brothers continued their incest. She even had an abortion at age 13-14 because of her brothers. She told the authorities, teachers, and doctors.. all knew, but never followed up on it. She was one person who did not find incest positive. She has been institutionalized several times for depression and other problems. She sees life as a living hell. Please add this with your postings in the newsgroups, because it is a side that needs to be told. I Am not condemning it... I have not personally experienced it, but I have seen several results of it->none of which are good. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Hi, I had a fairly long affair with my aunt (mother's sister) - on and off for about 7 years. The whole thing ended more than ten years ago because I left my home-country and came to the U.S. I come from an Asian society where "sex" as a whole is more of a taboo subject - and sexual freedom is a lot less compared to the west. I grew up spending a lot of time with my relatives on my mom's side. My first "sexual experiences" (not necessarily ones in which I took part) were all more or less related to peeping at women in the household - like taking baths, changing clothes, and occassionaly (if I got lucky) sexual intercourse. During my high-school years - a combination of pornography (that was the only regular outlet for sexual tension) and the occasional peeping episodes had made me very horny in general. Around this time I got really hooked on this aunt of mine - who had all the right things in the right places to drive a teenager crazy. I don't think she ever considered me to be a "grown-up" and was quite careless about my getting to see parts of her sexy body. If anything she probably enjoyed my desperation. Too make a long story short - this gradually led to a situation where - quite often - especially at night - whenever there was the opportunity - she would slip into my bed - jerk me off - and depending on her mood - let me play with her absolutely stunning breasts. But for the longest time - she would never let me touch her "down there". I was very curious about that mysterious place which she kept out of bounds - primarily because it was so heavily covered with hair that I could hardly see anything at all even if she changed clothes right in front of my eyes. Eventually, in my 2nd year in college - things became a lot more "adult". She let me ejaculate anywhere on her ass, or thighs or any other part of her body. She also let me masturbate her AFTER she was sure I wouldn't get an erection again for a while. This went on for about 2 years. I was quite happy with this routine - although I really felt like doing it all - at least once. That chance came much later - when I planned things in such a way that I would catch her off guards - close to the peak of her orgasm. I just switched gears - stopped stimulating her clit - and got on top and pleaded desperately. And it worked! That was probably the most exciting thing that ever happened to me. For almost two days in a row - I was free to do whatever I wanted - whenever I wanted. It was like a real-life workshop in executing all the fantasies one ever had! It has been a long time - and I haven't seen her for years. I thinks she is still filled with a lot of guilt. But I think she is also relieved that I am so far away - and we don't have to meet socially in the presence of other family members. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I have only told 2 other people in the world about this, but now I'm telling you...I married a woman in 1981 who had 2 daughters, 11 and 13 at the time...About 6 months into the marriage, my wife had 2 operations on her cervix which made intercourse very painful...we stopped having sex...but I would take one or the other of the girls and show them my penis, finally teaching them to take it into their mouths and sucking on it until they "made Daddy shoot his cream", always on their tongues and into their young mouths... I loved them more than I ever loved their mother... now, 15 years later, I still see the younger one and she still likes to have my penis in her mouth as we go to sleep...I use her in motels every chance I get...I hope this positive experience is helful to someone out there... =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-- I had sex with my mother when I was 16. My father had recently died and I spent a lot of time with my mother. We took trips and would get only one room at motels. Hard to say who wooed who, but one night when we were sleeping in the same bed I awoke with my mother caressing my balls, and we were soon kissing deeply. She went down on me and I came more than I have ever cum since. We then made love regularly for about six months, when she started dating another man. The last time we had sex was a sad time; we both knew it was the last time. I have never regretted it and I know that she didn't either; it was something we both needed at the time. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-- My sister and I had oral sex on and off from the time I was uhmmm about 15 till I was 20. She is 2 years younger than I. Mostly I went down on her. We had bedrooms facing each other. She would rock her waterbed and make it make sloshing sounds and that was kinda my cue. I would go over and she would lift her night shirt. To this day, I have not tasted pussy as sweet. There was never any force, and most of the times it happened she would come to me and outright ask me to "lick" her. We didn't speak during sex (for me, it was because my mouth was busy) probably out of fear or the parents catching us. You know how fundamental religions are about these things. I don't think I learned much about pleasuring women, but I did learn that I love to go down on a woman (if she is moderately clean). I still fantasize about it now and then. The only detramental affect it's had is that she started feeling guilty about it and made a big scene about it all. The fact that she feels bad about it hurts me. She didn't speak to me for about 4 years. Only recently has she started coming around and acting like I'm human again. I don't know what kind of affect it had on her in general because even now she won't talk about it. *grin* As it turns out, she was in a monthly porn mag that I occasionally pick up. I bought the month after she was in it and found her pic in the letters to the editor. The letter mentioned the issue and showed one of the photos from the pictorial. Still trying to collect that one, but it's been a couple years. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--