-> From: Wanda
-> To:   Sara

hi Sara
sure, i would like chat.  life is not all sex any way, it sounds like your
husband does not appreciate your sexual qualities.  let me know how i can
help you with your diversitions?

                 love Wanda

Reply
Thanks for the reply. I am not sure if he appreciates
my sexual qualities or not. Basically I think he is too busy to
think about them. If he is in the mood for sex we do it, if he is
interested in lots of foreplay, we do that and it is generally
good. If not its a quicky and he gets off but I don't. In actual
fact he is really a good guy, just not really into pleasing me
with sex. The result is that I don't want to do anything to upset
our marriage but I do have my daydreams about sex, particularly
making it with other women more than men. I have had a few bi
experiences in the past and my daydreams lead (are part of) some
very satisfying masturbation. It would be nice to have someone to
talk to about it and maybe share some thoughts.

-> From: Wanda
-> To:   Sara

sure!!
i do sometimes think about men, and i have to admitt that it dose get me wet.
so, what is on your mind?


Reply
I guess I just want to be able to let you know about my sexual
feelings, the lack of satisfaction, and my masturbation. Somehow
telling another woman about it makes me feel good inside. I find that
"talk" even on a BBS turns me on and helps me feel good about myself.
Also I would like to know about some of your experiences if you would
like to share.

-> From: Wanda
-> To:   Sara

i can't say much now, my roommaites and i are going out to lunch. but sure i
can share a couple of my experiences, but most are just dreams.  talk to you
later.

Reply
Wendi, I am looking forward to hearing from you. I enjoy sharing experiences
and dreams here in a no-risk enviroment.

-> From: Wanda
-> To:   Sara

ok, who should start?  do you want to, or should i?


Reply
Have to run. You go ahead and tell me an interesting experience. I'll keep up
my end too.

-> From: Wanda
-> To:   Sara

i tried to reply to your letter, but your box was full!
well you want me to tell you one of my stories, here it goes:
one day my friend and i went to the beach, to sun bathe.  it was late in the
afternoon and as usaual i bathe nude, and my girlfriend goes toppless.  after
a few hours, and winecoolers i had dosed off; while i was sleeping she took
my clothes back to the car.  when i awaken, i could not find my clothes!  i
asked her what she was doing, and all she replied that i was going to have to
walk back to the car wearing nothing!  i told her i can't do that!  after
some pleading she agreeded that i could not go back to the car this way, so
she handed me some sheer panties to wear back to the car.  well i decided
that something was better than nothing.  luckly the car was real close, and
when i got to the car, the panties were sopping wet.
what about you, got any jucy stories?

Reply
My unusual situation was also the location. We lived in a hilly area
and had just come home from shopping. As we were going up the stairs
with the last of the groceries my husband was feeling my ass and we
stopped on the porch to kiss. Well as it turns out this got the
attention of a neighbor but of course we didn't know it at the time.
When we got into the living room we continued our kissing and started
hugging and feeling and getting very hot. The door was still open and
so were the curtains but we just kept at it. My husband took me over
to the couch, pulled up my skirt and off my panties. I was really
ready, he dropped his pants and we just went at it. Well now could see
out the window and see a guy in a house up the hill watching. The
funny thing is that I didn't mind, in fact I kind of liked it. We were
so hot, I came twice and it was great. Afterwards I told my husband
about the other guy. He was furious so we were more careful about the
shades after that...darn.

-> From: Wanda
-> To:   Sara

i have only watched x-movies, and i think i was being watched once but i was
not sure?  you said that your sex with your husband wasn't too great, he
sounds like a preformer to me.  have you ever thought of having an
extramarital afair?

Reply
That experience I was telling you about was with my first husband, sex
was better but other things didn't work out. Do you find x-rated
movies exciting? The ones I have seen are to much pounding in and out
and not enough real excitement. Also the audio is so terrible, I like
to hear other people having sex and the few x-rateds I have seen just
don't do a good job of that. As for having an affair, yes I have
thought of it and did it in my first marriage, but don't want to take
a chance of messing up this marriage. Ok the sex isn't always so great
but other things are important too.

-> From: Wanda
-> To:   Sara

i love x movies, they turn me on.!!!!!  would you love to see some movies?
have you ever heard of videomania, they have 1000's of x-rateded movies that
will keep your twat wet for months?

Reply
Do you remember the names of any particularly good x-rateds? Seems
that most of the women don't do a very good job of acting and I want
to hear the sex not some loud music. Where is Videomania?  Susan

-> From: Wanda
-> To:   Sara

videomania is at branham and almaden exp. you can't miss it, it's the largest
in the nation.  a good one is two dauters of emanuale?  thats on your mind?

Reply
Thats quite far from here but I may give it a try sometime. Have you
ever seen "The Sounds of Love"? It was made locally and I really liked
it because it did focus on the sound of sex and orgasm as well as the
sights.

-> From: Wanda
-> To:   Sara

no i have not seen or heared of it, do any major stars star in it?  do you
have it?  i havn't watched a movie in about 6 weeks, i would love to join you
while you two watch one???????????  do you have any fantasies you would like
to share?

Reply
No, I don't have the tape. It costs too much to buy them, particularly
if you don't know if it will be any good. As for stars, I don't really
know who any of them are except John Holmes. I would love to have you
watch a sexy flick with me. My fantasy is that we would watch the tape
and watch each other masturbate at the same time. Have you ever
watched another women do herself?   Susan

-> From: Wanda
-> To:   Sara

no i have not watched, but i would love to.  isin't john holmes that hung
guy?

Reply
Yes, he is so hung that it is hard to believe he is real. It would
really be something to have that in you. I have never watched another
woman masturbate but I like to watch myself in the mirror. The
expression on my face is a scream, so to speak.     Susan

-> From: Wanda
-> To:   Sara

i am game if you are? have you ever watched a man masterbate? just name the
place and time.

Reply
What are we game for, watching each other masturbate? I don't think I
can handle real life, its one thing to "talk" about it, its another
thing to do it. I guess I am a chicken.
Yes I have seen a man masturbate. My ex-husband use to do it for me to
watch after he had given me an orgasm with his mouth.

-> From: Wanda
-> To:   Sara

thats ok, i guess we can still share stories but if you change your mind....
love Wanda

Reply
Thanks for the offer, I really do appreciate it. Maybe some day....
Whats the last time you had some really good sex. For me its been two
weeks ago that it was really good. We did it last weekend but, not so
hot.     love Susan

-> From: Wanda
-> To:   Sara

don't tell anyone, but actuually never!. i am a virgin, but i don't want to
be one any more!  i have read and heard soooo much about set, but i have
never been lucky enought to get laid. it sounds like your relationship with
your husband is improving?
love Wanda

Reply
Sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you, I have had a
really bad cold but I am doing pretty well now. I think my
relationship with my husband is on sort of an even keel. Sometimes the
sex is better sometimes not so good but in other ways he is very
considerate, he was great when I was sick. He even gave me an orgasm
with his hand on evening, it was very relaxing and I went right to
sleep. I am surprised you are still a virgin yet you have done it with
girls. I'll bet there are a lot of guys who would like to do it with
you.   Love, Susan

-> From: Wanda
-> To:   Sara

well i am realy a guy, i just logoned as a girl just because women would not
talk to me.  everything that i said is about true, but i am a guy.sorry that
i had to lead you on, but i was getting realy pissed off when i left mail to
other women and they would only just erase them!!! i hope you aren't angry?
but maybe we still can share some stories???? if you don't wan't to then i
will understand if you don't return this message.. but please, i have much
more i want to share with you!!!

==================================================================

-> From: Wendi
-> To:   Sara

Sure, i'll write to ya, if you want to hear from a 'totsal sex
Sure, if you are interested in hearing from a 'total' sex slave.(to my
Mistress, Janet, who is also my older sis)

Reply
So tell me. What is a total sex slave? I would like to hear about it.

-> From: Wendi
-> To:   Sara

Well luv, as a slave, my duties include mostly personal needs of Mistress.  i
bathe Mistress, dress Her,  do her nails, brush Her hair, give her the best
orgasms She's ever had.  Usually i am  'severely bound' when i give Her
pleasure.  i have been suspended from the ceiling upside down with my legs
tied a mile apart and my arms tied behind mem.  i've had to make her cum like
this before She lets me down.  i do it with just my mouth, as it's about the
only part of me that i have any control over.  It gets hard to make her cum
when She pulls on the clamps hanging from my small tits though.  This is only
one of the many ways she has of torturing me.  For example, She's told me
that for every reference to Her that i make, if i don't capitalize(Her not
her) i will spend an hour tied to the tree in the back yard (nude of course).

About the only time i am allowed to wear clothes is when we go out somewhere,
 and then i have to wear a short skirt with no panties underneath.
What do you thi so far?

Reply
I will be honest, I find this very hard to believe. Some of the things make
sense but being tied up all the time doesn't sound too good. Short skirts
with no panties is neat, I do it sometimes too.

-> From: Wendi
-> To:   Sara

I'm not tied up ALL the time.  I only spend about 6 hours a day like that.  I
guess not everyone's the same but, I can just feel the juices flowing with
the first twist of a rope around any part of my body! Maybe I'm not normal,
but I luv it!

Reply
Okay, lets hear it for getting the juices flowing whatever it takes.
So you make your mistress come but what about you?

-> From: Wendi
-> To:   Sara

Mistress, after hours of tauntint me, will usually get me off somehow.  I'll
tell you though, All she has to do is place that first rope 'round my wrists
and I cum almost continuosly!

Reply
I want to hear in detail what makes you come and how it feels.

-> From: Wendi
-> To:   Sara

One thing that almost always makes me cum is when Mistress grabs hold of my
nipples with her long sexy nails and squeezes.  I get this ticklish feeling
in my crotch and it's all over!

Reply
I love it when my nipples are squeezed too but not enough to have an
orgasm. Does your mistress ever put something big and hard in your
vagina or suck on your clit?

-> From: Wendi
-> To:   Sara

Yes, she has stuck everything from pop bottles to baseball bats up my puss 
and my asshole.  She also likes to suck my clit while I'm helplessly tied
till i'm begging her to make me cum, then she'll stop long enough for me to
simmer down then start over again. Sometimes this lasts for hours. Then if
I've been good, she lets me cum.

Reply
I like to put things in my vagina when I masturbate. Funny you should
mention pop bottles. I got one so far in one time that it scared me
but it sure felt great. I am not too much on things in my ass but I
have let guys finger me there. What things do you put in your ass?

-> From: Wendi
-> To:   Sara

Well, I don't actually put things up my ass.  It is usually somebody else
that puts whatever they think will rip me apart (seems that way!).  The worst
thing I've ever had up there was a 2-quart 'retention' enema.  I was madeto
hold it for about an hour.  the worst part about it (other than the pain) was
that when Mistress finally released it I had to squat down in the tub in
front of a couple of Her FRiends.  They still taunt me about that night, and
use it to get me to other things.

Reply
I would think that having friends watch would be difficult. What
things do they get you to do, remembering that night? Tell me what you
and your mistress look like, is she much bigger than you?

-> From: Wendi
-> To:   Sara

Let someone pump 2- quarts of water up your ass, you'll find that if the
nozzle isnt secured that it would fall out before  (pushed) you are full.
The things they get me to do are things like; giving some guy a blow job.
licking someones asshole clean
etc.
Both Mistress and I are smalish in builkld with me being almost petite.

Reply
Do you wear a bra most of the time when you go out of the house? You
said you are petite. I am pretty well built so I wear one some times
and generally during the winter to keep warm. In the summer I like to
let the guys know about my better points and dress accordingly.

-> From: Wendi
-> To:   Sara

na,  I never wear a br.  My breasts follow the old saying "more than a
mouthful is wasted".  But, you should  see the effect wearing my nipple rings
under a thin t-shirt in the winter has.

Reply
Sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you, I have had a
really bad cold but I am doing pretty well now. Glad to see someone
who doesn't need a bra and doesn't wear one. Somehow mothers seem to
infect most of us with the "need" to wear it. What is a nipple ring?

-> From: Wendi
-> To:   Sara

A nipple ring is quite similar to an earring.  You have your nipples
pierced, then you place your rings through the holes and snap them shut.

==================================================================

-> From: Verona
-> To:   Julie

Hi Julie,
     Sorry it took me a while to get back in touch with you.  No I don't mind
talking about my swinging.  My husband and I got started several years back
after we both realized that we had a very strong relationship but found that
we still were physically attracted to other people.  We love each other very
much and keep our relationship very honest.  We tell each other what is going
on and don't sneak around behind each other's back.  As far as the friends
that we swing with, they are all good friends but I haven't meet anyone who
would want me to leave my husband.  We are both extremely selective since you
can't tell where someone has been nowadays.  It never just a quick pickup and
most the time my husband does most of the introducing.
      There is something that I like very much but you might think that I am
crazy for liking this but I find it an incredible turn-on to make love to my
husband after he has made love to another woman.  I like to see him satisfied
and then see if I can completely wipe him out.  I find it very arrousing to
smell and taste another woman on his body.  This may have something to do
with the fact that I am bisexual and I have smelled and tasted other women
before I ever made love with them.  I also get very turned on by hearing my
husbands stories of what the other women did.
    So much for me, tell me about your daydreams.  Do you have a current
lover.  What turns you on AND what turns you off?

        take care,
        Verona

Reply
No, I don't think you are crazy. In fact I find it rather interesting
that you like to smell other women on your husband. I suppose it is
the opposite of smelling some strange perfume and wondering what your
husband has been up to. This way you know and approve. Do you watch
him making it with another woman and does he see you doing it with the
other guy? Whats it like making it with more than one guy in an
evening, do you have an orgasm with both of them? I would really be
interested in hearing more of the details if you don't mind sharing.
As for me, I am happily married with a pretty darn good sex life
but I do think about doing it with other women. I have had some
experiences in the past, not a lot, but enough to give me some good
memories. Even with my good sex life my daydreams about other women
get me in the mood to masturbate so I do that sometimes. Do you ever
find the need to do yourself? I guess my biggest turn on is oral sex,
I can and do have multiple orgasms when a guy eats me. I have had anal
sex a few times but I really have to be hot to be willing to do it.
As for turn offs, any kind of rough or sadistic activity really
makes me mad. I like to be treated like a wanted and loved person.
    Julie

-> From: Verona
-> To:   Julie

I am glad that you don't think I am crazy.  As for us watching each other we
have both watched each other do it with other people.  I have made love to my
husband and another man at the same time.  Sometimes one inside me while I
suck the other one and sometimes with one in my pussy and the other in my
butt.  I am amazed that you like anal sex.  Sometimes I thought I might be
the only woman that likes it.  I love the feel of two men squirting  into me.
 You must try it sometime.  I have also made it with a girlfriend in front of
a group of men and women.  Not a lot of people just six or seven of our
friends.  I love to do it with a double-headed dildo with a friend of mine.
As for having multiple orgasms, yes, I have them most of the time but not
always.  I also like to wear very sexy and feminine clothes Several years
back I got into stockings and garter belts which I wear quite often.  I also
masturbate quite a bit when I am alone.  Can you tell me more about your
fantasies?  Have you ever made love to another man than your husband? Or just
considered it?  Do you fell like telling me about your experiences with
other women?
     Verona

Reply
I guess my experiences are quite limited compared to yours. I have
only done it with other women a few times and never been involved with
a threesome. I can see where two men inside you at the same time would
be good. Its such a wonderful feeling when a man is inside me and when
I am turned on enough for anal sex I am so wild that I would love to
have two of them. Its not exactly clear to me how you do that
physically but if there is a will there is a way. As for anal sex I
have only done a very few times, I really have to be in the right
mood. My husband is a very considerate lover and not pushy (except in
the right way) so it works out okay. I too like to wear sexy clothes,
I particularly like going braless in the warm summer days so the guys
look at me. This turns on my husband too and makes for some really
good sex. I have never made love to a man other than my husband while
I was married but I had quite a bit of experience between marriages,
with a couple of women too. I guess many of my fantasies are doing it
with other women which I think about when I masturbate. I would like
to hear more about your ideas and experiences too.

-> From: Verona
-> To:   Julie

Hello Stranger,
    Yes a voice from your past.  How are things?  I see you have final
cleaned out your mailbox.  I think you last note had to do with how you can
have sex with two men at once, well here goes. . . . First you have the first
guy layback on the bed and you climb on top of him and ride him.  Then when
things get going and you are very turned on and wet, lean forward, reach back
and spread your checks and have the second guy slowly, and I repeat slooowly
slide himself up your backside.  Have both of them start out slow and once
they get rolling you will go through the roof.  Take my word for it.  It
works.
     So what's new with you.  How's your love life been?
   I hope to hear from you soon, if you want to keep in touch.
    
   Take Care,
   Verona

Reply
Talk about a voice from the past... Its been so long that I don't
remember when I was last on. Sometimes I am just not in the mood for
the BBS scene. How about you?  Now that you explain how to do it with
2 guys it makes sense, not that it is likely to happen to me. It does
sound very exciting and FILLING. Have you done that many times? My
love live hasn't been to wonderful recently but thats par for the
course. I did indulge in some petting with someone other than my
husband though. It was really a thrill considering how little we
actually did. We were in the hot tub, had quite a few glasses of wine
and my husband had to run to the store for some things for dinner.
Hal, the other guy, stayed in the tub with me and after a while we
were very close and he started rubbing my back and worked his way
around to the front. It was nice but about that time my husband came
home and that was the end of that. What's been happening to you?

-> From: Verona
-> To:   Julie

Well I have taken on two guys at once several times but most of the time I
suck on one of them.  Sounds like Hal is improving your life a bit.  Any
chance of seeing him on the side?  I could send my husband over to give you
the rub of your life (back or front)!!  What has been wrong with you sex
life?  Not often enough??   I could have my husband fill your "time" then
after tasting you on his body maybe all three of us could get together??

Take Care
Verona

===================================================================

-> From: Raymond
-> To:   Sara

My biggest complaint with my wife is that it is fine for her to sit on my
face and have me bring her off numerous times, but she won't go down on me at
all(not once in our 12 years). She also is a little (no a lot) overweight and
doesn't have the discipline to lose the weight. I'd like to buy her sexy
underwear from a catalogue, but she is afraid that we'll get on a porno
mailing list. Porno is something that I love to watch but she is repulsed by
it. If I didn't love her for other reasons, I'd be long gone. What do you
think. I call this BBS and other to add a little spice and excitment to my
life and if she knew that I was even writing to another lady, she'd have a
cow!

Reply
Sounds like a rather typical situation. Funny thing is that I was a
bit like that in my first marriage so I can kind of see your wife's
side too. Admitedly I am quite a bit different now. Many women are not
really at ease with sex but are still wonderful people. Give her lots
of orgasms (I wish I was getting more) and enjoy the giving, getting a
blow job isn't everything. In all honesty I still don't really love
doing it but its okay. As for over weight I am a bit that way too, it
does have some advantages in the chest area, if you like that kind of
thing. Do you enjoy the sex you do get? I love it when my husband eats
me particularly when I "sit on his face".

-> From: Raymond
-> To:   Sara

I do enjoy what sex I do get, but it has become a little boring. When I do
give my wife oral sex, she sits on my face and gets a good moustache ride.
That's what bugs me is that it's okay for her to REALLY get off that way, but
she doesn't care that I might like that aspect of sex too. I've even promised
to not come in her mouth. How did you get around to changing your outlook?
Another thing is lately with her working, she comes home tired (which I
understand) and by 8:30 she's sacked out on the couch and then gets up at
4:00 am and does housework. I don't dare bother her when we go to bed about
10PM or she whines about leaving her alone. What now?

Reply
My opinion. The what now is you have to decide if your overall relationship
is what you want. That is, is the sex situation an indication of other things
being bad or is it a separate problem. Not an easy thing to analyze, you
might want professional help. If the problem is the overall relationship you
have to decide to work on it or give it up, another not so easy decision. If
the problem is only sex then discuss it with her, see if she is willing to
make an effort to change. A marriage is not a 50/50 thing it requires 80% by
both people. Do something! Get some help!
How do you like my soap box?
As for oral sex, I really believe some women don't want to go down on a man.
You may have to accept that so keep that in mind but work in the direction
you like just dont make it an obsession. You can get a lot of pleasure from
giving her orgasms, she will get the idea

-> From: Raymond
-> To:   Sara

Sorry I haven't written back for a while, but I was having trouble getting on
the system and then when I did the other day, your mailbox was full. Computer
sex as well as phone sex are my favorite pastimes. Have you tried the BBS
Trex? It's number is 415-961-6969. You mentioned computer sex. What do you
like about it? Are you into phone sex too? If you are, maybe we could get on
voice some day and give it a try. Let me know. Talk to you later. I promise
it won't be so long next time.

Reply
I have done phone sex a couple of times. You have to really be tuned
into someone to do it. I am not sure it would mean anything if I
hadn't had real sex with the guy first.
And what do you think computer sex should mean?

-> From: Raymond
-> To:   Sara

Computer sex is like phone sex, except over modem instead of voice. I do it
a lot on the TREX board, have you tried that board. I could get into phone
sex with you. How about it some time?

Reply
Sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you, I have had a
really bad cold but I am doing pretty well now. Can you really find
people who will have computer sex? Seems like it would be difficult to
type and do it at the same time.

-> From: Raymond
-> To:   Sara

Phone sex is a lot easier, but there is a BBS with chat mode called TREX. It
is really wild what people talk about on it including sex. It also has
private channels in case you want to get it on one-on-one. Their number is
415-691-6969. Give it a try, but don't be surprised if you get gang bang by
the guys with conversation if you are the only female on. How about some
phone sex someday?

Reply
Its been so long that I don't remember when I was last on. Sometimes I
am just not in the mood for the BBS scene. How about you?   My love
live hasn't been to wonderful recently but thats par for the course. I
did indulge in some petting with someone other than my husband though.
It was really a thrill considering how little we actually did. We were
in the hot tub, had quite a few glasses of wine and my husband had to
run to the store for some things for dinner. Hal, the other guy,
stayed in the tub with me and after a while we were very close and he
started rubbing my back and worked his way around to the front. It was
nice but about that time my husband came home and that was the end of
that. What's been happening to you?

-> From: Raymond
-> To:   Sara

I too took off of the BBS scene for a while. I love that you had a small
experience with another man. Anytime that you would like some long
conversation and a nice long massage, leave me some mail and we'll see if we
can't get together. My love life was the same boring thing until recently I
got with a gal that I met from another board and we got together for a few
hours of oral sex. She was on her period so I couldn't reciprocate but I love
doing it to women too. Tell me some more about a fantasy that you might have
of what we would do if we ever met.

=================================================================

-> From: Brian
-> To:   Sara

We got married when we were around 20.  At the time we both liked a lot of
the same things, going dancing, camping, snow skiing, etc.
As time when on I kept liking these things while she became more job oriented
and started going to school.  I guess what it comes down to is that we didn't
like the same things anymore.  We each had our own circle of friends and kept
getting farther apart.  It ended rather peacefully.

Reply
I know what you mean. That is pretty much the way it was with my first
marriage. We didn't end quite so peacfully though. I got involved with
another guy and decided to leave my husband. As you might expect it
didn't work out with the other guy but after a few years I met my
present husband and we have been very happy for over 5 years. I really
learned a lot about life and sex between marriages although I suppose
it would have been different if I knew then about aids. Sex is an
important part of my life and my husband really knows how to turn me
on.    Sara

-> From: Brian
-> To:   Sara

Sex also plays an important lifet my lifet
although there is not anyone special at this time.  As far as knowing how
to turn someone on, are you talking physically or mentally?  I think setting
the stage for seduction is every bit as important as sex itself.  The sharing
of a fantasy can be a lot of fun for both.

Reply
I do want to be turned on both mentally and physically. I would avoid any
situation where the mental part wasn't right so it gets down to the physical
part for the final note. I need lots of affection and petting to get me
going.     Sara

-> From: Brian
-> To:   Sara

The mental part for me is more sight and sound oriented. Soft music and a
sexy outfit will do it almost every time. Sometimes even a large oversized
men's shirt does wonders.  Brian

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I love to dress sexy. Summer is on its way and thats my time. I
have nice breasts and like to let people know it. Maybe I am a
bit of an exhibitionist. It is a turn on to know guys are having
a good look. My husband loves it too because he gets the benefit
of my excitment at the appropriate moment.    Sara

-> From: Brian
-> To:   Sara

you sound like my kind of woman!!  One of my favorite fantasys is being
teased by a beautiful woman who likes to show a bit of the naughty bits.
maybe you can tell how you like to do this and I'll share my thoughts
on the subject with you. This could be fun!!  Brian

Reply
Basically I am into tank tops (so to speak). Without a bra I am a
pretty nice sight if I do say so myself. Also I have some blouses with
3/4 length sleves with a deep v in the arm. When I reach over to pick
something up it is quite revealing. My hips are a little big so not
much to do in that area but short skirts are back in so I may give
them a try this summer. So what would you have in mind for me? Sara

-> From: Brian

Hi Susan!  No problem!  Tank tops are one of my favorites.  I guess I would
spot you in a shopping mall doing your shopping.  I would try to catch your
eye and smile.  If I got a favorable reaction from you I'd follow in order to
get a better look.  I can imagine you looking at some goods on a lower shelf
and me walking over and being able to look down the front of your top to see
the full swell of your breasts!!  What a sight! There would be a large bulge
in my pants that would be very difficult to hide.  At that point you would
probably notice this.  Your reaction would determine what happens next!!
Love, Brian

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To tell the truth my reaction would probably be embarrasment. I wish
it were something else but I am really a bit shy when it comes to
strangers. Yes I like to dress sexy but it is to make me feel sexy
rather than to actually attract personal contact. Does that make any
sense to you? I guess thats why I feel okay here, no risk, no personal
contact. I would enjoy seeing the bulge in your pants. How big do you
get?    Susan

-> From: Brian
-> To:   Sara

I'm a bit shy also. I doubt if I would actually do what I described, but it
is fun to fantasize (sp) about it. Like you said 'no risk'. To answer your
other question, I guess it's about seven inches long; (it's been so long
since it was measured (pun intended)). So how about you? How do you measure
up? (That's two.)  Well, I'll be going before I pun myself to death! Write
soon!  Love ya! Brian

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I measure pretty well. 36D-28-38 and as I say a bra is optional. Are
there measurements of importance for my vagina? I don't know of any
and it seems to work well. As for you size I am not really an expert
in what sizes mean what. It seems the person and what he does with it
is what is important.       Susan

-> From: Brian
-> To:   Sara

You sure do measure well! I love a small waist and hips that are a little 
wider than the 'perfection' called for in the social norm.  As for vaginal
size, I think the same holds true as it does for a penis; it's how you
use it!  I have known some women that had fantastic muscle control in their
vaginas.  I was blessed with a very flexible hips, legs, and back. I'm 
convinced that the motion of the hips is what does it for both sexes.
Love, Brian

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Let me ask you a rather off-the-wall question. What do you think about
making love with a woman when she has her period? I find that is my
most sexy time. Unfortunately my present husband won't have anything
to do with me but my first one would and it was great, messy but
great.

-> From: Brian
-> To:   Sara

I've had some rather good experiences.  One of my favorite ways is the bathe
with my lover before and after.  A nice warm tub filled with bubbles and oil
is a great way to start.  Actually it's a great way to start anytime, but 
that's another story!  Dry each other off and spread a bath towel on the
bed or any other place that strikes your fancy! I have also found oral sex
to be good at this point; the musky scent is a real turn-on for me! Brian

Reply
Intesting about the bath. I like to have warm sun tan oil rubbed all
over me. Mostly at the beach of course but some times at home. You
didn't answer me about doing it with a woman who is having her period.
Will you or won't you?            Kisses,  Susan

-> From: Brian
-> To:   Sara

Sorry, I thought my answer spoke for itself.  YES!!  It doesn't bother me at
all.  The stuff about the bath all related to sex during a woman's period.
The suntan oil sounds like a good idea because I like the smell of it.
HUGS!! Brian

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OH... I guess I wasn't paying attention, sorry. I haven't had any
really good sex in a couple of weeks now. How about you?

-> From: Brian
-> To:   Sara

Well, it has been about a week and a half for me. A friend and I got
together for a little afternoon fun last Thursday at a local no-tell
motel.  Do you ever go out on your husband?
Kisses, Brian

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Sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you, I have had a
really bad cold but I am doing pretty well now. No, I don't go out on
my husband. The sex may not always be the greatest but in other ways
we have a good marriage and I don't want to mess it up. He have me a
real nice orgasm with his hand one night to put me to sleep when I was
sick.

-> From: Brian
-> To:   Sara

Glad you're feeling better.  I'm also sorry for taking so long to reply. I
was in Oklahoma City all week. Let's see, what can we talk about now.
How about fantasies?  I've always wanted to have a woman give me an
obscene phone call about window peeking at me and then catching her in the
act. Not the most original I suppose but mine all the same. How about you?
Maybe we could act one out via mail or on the phone. Looking forward to
hearing from you soon.  Take care, Brian

Reply
Its been so long that I don't remember when I was last on. Sometimes I
am just not in the mood for the BBS scene. How about you?   I don't
think I want to get into sex on the phone as you suggested, somehow it
doesn't seem as safe as messages on the BBS. My love live hasn't been
to wonderful recently but thats par for the course. I did indulge in
some petting with someone other than my husband though. It was really
a thrill considering how little we actually did. We were in the hot
tub, had quite a few glasses of wine and my husband had to run to the
store for some things for dinner. Hal, the other guy, stayed in the
tub with me and after a while we were very close and he started
rubbing my back and worked his way around to the front. It was nice
but about that time my husband came home and that was the end of that.
What's been happening to you?

-> From: Brian
-> To:   Sara

Not too much happening out here either. All I can say is that Hal is
one lucky guy! I'm jealous! I'm getting a lot of junk over the line
I'll continue later

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-> From: Don
-> To:   Sara

That is a shame because eating a nice sweet pussy and taking your time only
heightens the whole love making sequence. I love to take my time licking
my way over every inch. I love to get the clit in my mouth and suck on it
and feel it get hard between my lips. I love to role the clit around with
my lips and suck on it as well. then I work my way down and insert my tongue
into the vaginal opening and work it in and out and continue to suck
alternately on the clit and work ther area around the vulva and at the same
time smell the fragrance coming from your body. It is terrific when you
finally cum and I can get my mouth fully around your pussy and suck and lick
at the same time as you cum. That is when I would want you to pull my head in
against your pussy and make eat you furiously.....wow!

-> From: Don
-> To:   Sara

I always preceed my lovemaking with a lot of oral sex. I would love to show
you how I would eat your sweet pussy. I would start with your panties on and
start by eating your pussy through your pantie crotch athen I`d would my way
back around toward your ass and lick up your sweet crack finding your sweet
ass through the nylon working my tongue in I would force my tongue into your
sweet pucker. Then I would return to the fornt and pushing the elastic
legband aside with my tongue I`d find the wet pubic hair of your cunt and
then your vulvic lips. I'd worm my tongue in and find your clit and massaging
it with my tongue I`d world till it got hard. Then I`d pull your panties down
around your thighs and start on your pussy sucking hotly.....more later  Don

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Yes, thats good. Suck my clit till I come and come............
Did you ever think of writing for a living?

-> From: Don
-> To:   Sara

No I just like to dabble in fantasies. I draw on my own experiences and like
to expand on them. I was seperated for some time and I had a ball. I once
advertised that I wo
(sorry about the interuption) I was saying. I once advertised that I would
strip for free at any function. I got a call from four women who wanted
me to strip for them in there apartment. I went and danced to some music
stripping down to my bikinis and teasing them. I wound up eating two of the
ladies and fucking one other.
  I noticed from your questionare that you are bisexual. Have you had any
experiences with other women? I love being in threesomes with two women
and had the opportunity only twice.
  Getting back to our orginal subject. I would love to lay on the floor
and have you fully dressed expect for you panties and have you squat on
my face and let me lick you pussy as you swayed back and forth over
my extended tongue. I could lick your entire bottom that way. Have you
ever been eaten that way?

Reply
That was a real interesting time you had with those three women. Did
you ever see them again. Yes, I have had a few experiences with other
women but not in recent years. Mostly when I was in college, then
later between marriages. I haven't done a threesome and it doesn't
seem likely to happen, my husband is a bit conservative about such
things.
I have never been eaten the way you suggest, sounds great and
spontaneous with clothes on and everything. I do have great and many
orgasms with oral sex.

-> From: Don
-> To:   Sara

Yes I did see them again. If your husband is abit conservative I suggest
you find some one that would be more liberal. I love to eat pussy and
have thought up a variety of ways to do it. Would you like to hear some of
variations.
P.S. this system is screwed up I just got your letter but I logged on
yesterday and it ws not here....


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I am not really into changing husbands again. I did that once and came
up with a good guy (sex ain't everything) so I will stick with him. As
for your variations, sure, I am interested.

-> From: Don
-> To:   Sara

Ther4e a lot of variations to sex. First there is the locations. One can have
some great times if the location is exciting. Like making love in public like
a football game. Another variation is type of sex like oral,anal etc. You
said
you've tried anal sex but wasn't to sure. well it takes time and practice.
One very imprtant item is to be sure to wash after anal sex and continuing
with vaginal sex or else. I have know about four women who loved anal sex and
two of them were married to men that did not like it. I had great time with
them. One in particular, her name was Ellen Would you like to hear about
it???

Reply
I would love to hear about Ellen. Also sounds like the married women go for
you.

-> From: Don
-> To:   Sara

Ellen was my technician and I realized after a couple of months she was
making leading statements. Then one night after work in the parking lot I
walked out with her and walked with her to her car. As she was getting in she
made the comment that since her husband drank so much she wasn't getting laid
and was really horny. I slid in next to her and the next thing were kissing
hot and heavy. I workded my hand down inside her slacks and begin rubbing her
hard clit. Finally after about and hour of necking she had to leave, I knew I
was going to hurt after all that heavy petting so I jacked myself off rather
than get a case of lovers nuts. We continued to neck for about a week after
work till finally on Friday I went to a local motel and rented a room. At
lunch time I told her we were going to special lunch. The motel was on the El
Camino and close to work. I drove up and she saw it. I said "Well we are here
you can say no now or we can go up to the room" She hesitated and then
agreed. We went upstairs and after some hot kissing I helped her undress. She
was wearing a biege bra with silver flexs in it and it hooked in the front. I
undid the hook and let her tits fall out. They were larger than I imagained.
with huge aerola and pink nipples. I took  one into my mouth and started
sucking.....want to hear more?  Say how about you exchanging some hot stories
too???

Reply
Yes I would love to hear more. Let me think a while about a story from
me. I have had some interesting ones.

-> From: Don
-> To:   Sara

Ok I'll tell you more stories after I hear yours..

Reply
I had sort of an unusual sex situation during my first marriage. We
lived in a hilly area and had just come home from shopping. As we were
going up the stairs with the last of the groceries my husband was
feeling my ass and we stopped on the porch to kiss. Well as it turns
out this got the attention of a neighbor but of course we didn't know
it at the time. When we got into the living room we continued our
kissing and started hugging and feeling and getting very hot. The door
was still open and so were the curtains but we just kept at it. My
husband took me over to the couch, pulled up my skirt and off my
panties. I was really ready, he dropped his pants and we just went at
it. Well now could see out the window and see a guy in a house up the
hill watching. The funny thing is that I didn't mind, in fact I kind
of liked it. We were so hot, I came twice and it was great. Afterwards
I told my husband about the other guy. He was furious so we were more
careful about the shades after that...darn.

-> From: Don
-> To:   Sara

GREAT STORY! I LOVE TO BE AN EXHIBITIONIST. I GUES THAT WHY I LIKE GROUP
SEX. I LOVE TO HAVE A WOMAN'S HUSBAND WATCH AS I FUCK HIS WIFE OR BE IN
A GROUP OF PEOPLE AND LET THEM WATCH. i MET A COUPLE WHO LIKE TO TAPE
THIER EXPLOITS AND WATCH THEM LATER. WE HAD A THREESOME AND LATER WE WATCHED
AS WE ALL FUCKED AND SUCKED EACH OTHER. I LIKE PUBLIC SEX SOMETIMES BUT
IT'S BIT RISKY WITH ALL THE PRUDES AROUND.
  ADDITONALLY I ENJOY HAVING AN AFFAIR WITH MARRIED WOMEN BECUASE IT'S MORE
EXCITING.

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I would like to hear more about Ellen and any other exciting stories you
would like to share. I am not sure public sex would do anything for me but
descrete watching of "private" sex would turn me on. I like to hear others
having sex and I am sort of a noisy person when I have an orgasm. As for
affairs with other marrieds, yes it is exciting, I did it in my first
marriage but I am avoiding it this time. Sometimes the price is too high.

-> From: Don
-> To:   Sara

The price is high sometimes, but I have had my share of fun. As for Ellen
she and I enjoyed an affair while she worked for me. After the first time
we fucked in the motel room we had some othr hot sessions. One in particular
was a night we were working late. We went to motel 6 in Sunnyvale and it was
the night the last game of the world series was on. I remember because it was
on all the time we were fucking. We began by playing and me eating her cunt
then she sucked me off. The thought of her sucking me off gives me a hardon
right now. The memorable thing about that night was during our fucking I
got my cock into Ellen's ass and I had never fucked her in the ass. She
loved it and so did I. We fucked for the entire game of the series and for
about and hour after.


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I haven't done much anal sex, I really have to be in the mood before I
am willing to do that, but if sex goes on for hours that is at least
in the right direction to get me turned on enough. Considering my lack
of interest in baseball it sounds like you made the best possible use
of the time. I once had sex with my husband-to-be in a hotel room
overlooking an outside party we were supposed to be attending. We
could hear people we know talking while we were going at it. Somehow
that made it more exciting. You said you like having affairs with
married women. Do you find they are better in any way or is it just
the "danger"?

-> From: Don
-> To:   Sara

Having an affair with a married woman is exciting because of  the danger and
because they know what the rules are.
The single ones get to involved and take being fucked the same as being
commited. I once had an affair with a woman whose huband worked graveyard
and I had to wait till he left for work and I would go up to her apartment
and we'd fuck till about 5 or 6 in the morning in his bed. It was real hot
becuase the excitemnet was always there.


Reply
Yes, we women are that way. We want committment to go with sex, at
least most of the time. Thats why I won't mess around outside my
marriage. I figure one standard for all and that can be either way,
both faithful or both mess around. Tell me more about some of your
experiences.    S


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-> From: Donna
-> To:   Sara

Hello.  I also think about other women alot.  Sometimes when I was with
my last boyfriend I even pretended he was a women when he went down on
me.  Drop me a line.
                            Donna

Reply
Well I guess I think a lot more than act. I haven't been with another woman
for years. I don't want to mess up my marriage which is basically good except
for some of the sex, some of the time. I guess oral sex is the universal
language of men and women, I sure like it the best. How is it with you as far
as sex and other things.

-> From: Donna
-> To:   Sara

I've only had one expierence with a woman and it was heaven.  It was a long
time ago, while I was in High School.  My sex life is a little slow, I
recently broke up with my boyfriend.  I'm not into casual sex, there has to
be something there, love, respect before I'm willing to fall in the sack
with someone.  For some reason I've been fanasizing about other women lately.
I don't really know why.  I remember how good it was when I did it that one
time, but I'm a little afraid to try it again.  Crazy huh?  Yes oral sex is
definatly my favorite.  My old boyfriend said he could spend hours licking
me, he said my red pubic hairs really turned him on.  Of course black ones
and grey ones and any others seemed to turn him on too.  Oh well enough of
that,  I guess it's time to go, take care.
                          Donna

Reply
Sorry to hear your sex life is a little slow but I agree that the
person has to mean something to you. Its when things are slow for me
that I think about other women too. I really wouldn't want to do
anything about it because of what it could do to my otherwise good
marriage but you are in a different position, maybe something
interesting will happen. The first time I did it with another woman
was in college. It was with my roommate. We were both sexually active
with guys and both hit an emotional low at the same time. Along with
our natural curiosity it just seemed like a way to comfort each other.
It was one of those cold winter nights (well it doesn't get all that
cold in Berkeley but it seemed that way). We went to bed together and
held each other close. All we really did was finger each other to
orgasm but it was awful nice at the time. Considering the guys I had
done it with it was really one of the best orgasms I had had. It makes
me feel kind of warm to look back on it. I haven't seen her in years,
its a shame to loose close friends like that. I would be intrested in
what actually happened in your high school experience. 

-> From: Donna
-> To:   Sara

My experience was with a fairly close girlfriend.  I was staying over her
house one weekend.  We had snuck out of the house to see our boyfriends.
after some wine we went to park and necked with our boyfriends for a while.
When we returned to her house we sat in her bed a talked about boys (you know
how that is).  She told me what it was like to make love (I was still a
virgin) and told me what they did to each other.  They where really into oral
sex, she didn't want to get pregnant.  Somehow the conversation got shifted
to our bodies and we started to touch each other.  We fingered each other to
several orgasims.  On the last orgasim we kissed deeply.  I know I would have
gone farther if she had taken the lead.  We saw each other often after that
but we never talked about it, and never did it again.  I wanted to several
times, but I didn't want her to think I was a "dyke".  For the next several
years when I masturbated I pretended it was her doing it to me.  I still see
her occasionaly, she's been divorced twice and has a kid.  We still never
talk about that time.  And I still use it as a masturbation fantasy every now
and again.  It makes me excited to tell someone else about it.  If I may ask
what kind of fantasies do you have?

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Its really too bad that when we were young and "free" we were so
uptight about sex with other girls. I think I missed out on a lot of
fun that I will never get. At this point I certainly don't think it
would have made me into a homosexual, I just like men too much. Oh
well, live and learn like they say.
Isn't it interesting how it is exciting to talk/write about sex to a
person you have never even met. I actually do get a little wet reading
your messages and writing back. Question, do you find that you are
more sexy before and during your period? I find that is my "hottest"
time, too bad my husband won't do it then. As for fantasies, I like to
think about watching others making love. I have never done it but it
turns me on to think about it.

-> From: Donna
-> To:   Sara

My period is definatly my hottest time.  My ex would do it during my period,
but he didn't enjoy it.  I think he did it for me.  As for being exciting to
talk to a stranger, I find that I have told you things that I haven't told my
best friend.  I feel safe, if you know what I mean.  Yes watching other
people make love is a turn on.  I live in an apartment with another girl, and
on occasion I (we) have had that oportunity.  What other fantasies do you
have?
                       Donna

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It is a little messy doing it when I have my period, we put a
towel on the bed. My first husband seemed to enjoy it but he
wouldn't eat me, can't say that I blame him, didn't make any
difference I could have an orgasm easily with him in me. As for
my present husband, he has only done it a couple of times.
Sometimes we have sex just before my period starts, that has been
the best times. I know what you mean about feeling safe here, its
great to just let it all hang out. When you have seen your
apartment mate getting it on with a guy is it right out in the
open or more of an accidental door open situation. I would be
interested in what you saw and how it made you feel. Other
fantasies, lets see....I guess doing it with another woman is the
main one, also I like to think about being at the beach and
having someone rub oil all over my body.

-> From: Donna
-> To:   Sara

The girl I live with now is pretty discreet.  I have walked in a couple of
times and seen her with her boy friend.  Her boyfriend is very cute (nice
ass) with a medium size penis.  I came home late one night and they were in
her room with the door wide open.  She was leaning over her bed and he had
entered her from the rear.  I left and came back twenty minutes later, making
a loud noise when I came in.  I cought them on the sofa about six months ago,
she was giving him head.  They both were very embarassed.  I almost raped my
boyfriend when I saw him.  My last roommate used to screw around a lot.
I think she liked to be watched.  She used to always leave her door open, or
do it out in the open.  She would sleep with anyone, and some of the guys she
was with made me sick.  Thats why we aren't roomates anymore.  So what does
your fantasies about woman consist of?
                         Donna

Reply
I haven't lived with a roommate since college other than men so I
guess I have missed out on some "entertainment". I suppose even when
you can't see what is going on you can hear it. I find the sounds of
others making love to be very exciting. I enjoy making a lot of noise
myself sometimes its really wild when I have an orgasm. Have you heard
a lot or do they tend to keep quiet because they know someone else is
in the house? You didn't say if your roommate has ever watched or
heard you. As for fantasies about women, it mostly has to do with oral
sex. I have my best orgasms that way and I want to do it to another
woman so I can feel her contractions when she has it. Knowing how it
makes me feel, it turns me on to think about bring right THERE when it
happens to her.

-> From: Donna
-> To:   Sara

They do try to be quiet,but you know how cheap apartments are nowadays.  They
like to take showers togeather.  She really gets turned on, and does a lot of
moaning.  We try to be absent when the other is "entertaining" but that
doesn't work that well.  Yes I have been caught a few times.  I am a "moaner"
myself.  When we're alone I really let loose.  They came home right in the
middle, and I guess I really gave them a show.  They both still tease me
about it.  Whenever her boyfriend calls and I answer the phone he imitates
the noises that I made.  How embarressing!  My Ex and myself went to Santa
Cruz and got really horney.  There was a traffic jam in the parking lot so we
went into the back of his truck and made love.  It was exciting knowing
everyone was around but didn't know what we were doing.  I have my best
fantasies about being dominated by another woman.  Not the tieing up and
whips and chains stuff.  Just being order to lick and kiss at her command.
It makes me hot just writing about it.  When I masturbate I like doing it in
the shower.  I aim the shower massage at my clit and I really get off.  How
do you masturbate?
                          Donna

Reply
Maybe her boyfriend is interested in you. Do you ever trade boyfriends
for sex or just in the normal course of breaking up with one and
starting with a new one? Sounds like you and you ex still have
something going at least sexually or was that before he was your ex?
When I masturbate it is mostly with my fingers but I have done it in
the shower with the shower massage too, it is great. Also we have a
vibrator that we use on each other occassionally, have you ever used
one. When we have sex we often use a lot of hand lotion during
foreplay, he likes it on his prick and it makes my vagina better
lubricated. I am not sure about domination, have you actually been in
any sort of situation like that? All this talk makes me want to get it
off, hope my husband is in the mood too.      Later, Sara

-> From: Donna
-> To:   Sara

No we never trade boyfriends, that is strickly against the rules we made when
we moved in togeather.  We have both followed that rule very strictly.  It is
the best way to lose a good friend.  Yes that was when we were still
togeather, we have nothing going now.  That relationship was a dead end.  I
have never been in a domination scene with anyong, I have just fantasized
about it.  I think I would rather do it with a woman, I have had a lot of men
try to dominate my life, and I tend to rebel from them.  Well give your
husband a good working over.  I have to stick to my shower massage, I'm in
between boyfriends and I don't like casual sex.  Bye for now.
                    Donna

Reply
Its nice to see that there are some people that aren't into casual
sex. I have pretty much only been to bed with guys I really knew and
cared for although I must admit there have been a couple of exciting
exceptions. My guess is that more people are being more careful these
days. I know what you mean about men trying to dominate your life,
thats what is so great about my husband, he really lets me be my self
and is supportive in everything I do. Too bad he isn't better in bed
but the good news is that last night was great. I had 3 orgasms. Hope
you have some luck soon. Where do you generally meet the guys you
date?     Sara

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-> From: Larry
-> To:   Sara

We seem to have some attitudes and interests in common. And - even thought I
have no explicit basis for this - I find you attractive already. Maybe its
your honesty...openness...The idea of change is exciting to me too - in fact
it would be perfect to find someone who was generally happy but shared that
desire....to the point that we could safely satisfy it for each other...be
a non-demanding mister/mistress...with nothing expected in return except for
occasional planned, discrete, satisfying encounters of quiet talking,
massage, warm touches, and crazy lovemaking...a mutual trust of sorts. And
when it was over - we could return to our basically satisfying relationships
...until we met again...for more!
Talk again soon, I hope.
P.S. I love having you come quickly...just so long as you do it again and
again. Making you feel good makes me feel good.

Reply
Larry, you are a smooth talker and probably a great lover as well but we will
have to keep it to BBS talk for now (probably forever). God I love to come
quickly and many times but I will have to do it without you. I am going to
take a shower soon and I will get myself off and think about you.
  Love, Sara

-> From: Larry
-> To:   Sara

Thank you - I think...actually, being a "smooth talker" sounds a little
suspect and I think it was well intending but also a bit cautious. Of course
I understand - and share - the caution...but I'm really not a smooth talker -
reasonably well educated and intelligent, open, caring, and respectful, yes.
And appreciative of these characteristics in a lady friend (which you seem
to share - as I at least sense). As for being a great lover - again, that
sounds like something that should be reserved for someone who thinks of
him or herself as a great lover (a legend in their own mind!!)...I rather
think of myself as a caring and fun lover - patient, passive or aggressive
as is mutually desired, "technically" proficient, reasonably endowed, and
sensitive - with as much enjoyment in sensuality as in sexuality...the chase
to me is as much fun as the act...the touching as exciting as the cumming...
Tell me about your shower in any event...I'll be doing the same and thinking
of you as well!
     We really should at least meet for a discrete coffee sometime..or some-
thing like that...
Kisses...

Reply
I would love to meet you but I really can't. Just don't want to mess
up a good thing. Sounds like you are a lot like my husband. As for the
shower, I did do it. At the suggestion of a friend on this BBS I
bought a Water Massage, the kind that you hold in your hand. Well it
is fantastic. In some ways its better than oral sex, it gives me
control over all the action. Anyway, after soaping my self all over I
use it to rinse and then concentrate on my clit. It doesn't take long
before I come, then I keep at it until I come again. Too bad I have to
stand in the shower or I would jsut keep going.

-> From: Larry
-> To:   Sara

Your shower got me hard just listening to you describe it...I closed my
eyes for a moment and leaned back in my chair picturing you...watching
you as the jet of water gushed against your furry mound...watching your
fingers as you parted your labia to expose your delicious muff to the
pulsating stream of watter..feeling you stiffen with excitement as the
feelings intensified with the water rapidly massaging your tender clit...
your other hand cupping your breast, massaging the slippery soapy water
over your hard nipple...and then enjoying the climax of your cumming as
you tightened your buns and jammed the spray full against your pussy...
your eyese closing and your lips emitting light moans...and as you did
you dropped the shower massage and pulled my waiting mouth tightly against
your warm slit for more...and contrary to what you thought, you had the
same control - because you told me and guided me with what you wanted...
and I listened and responded...because to make you feel the best I could
was all that I wanted for that delicious moment. Meet me and lets make it
real...I understand your hesitency...and I share it...but I know there is
something special and good waiting for us to share. I have access to a
friends house in Santa Cruz if you can get off for an afternoon or morning
sometime this next week...'course, there are always lot's of other options
that are available...but this is ideal, private, discrete...and very nice!
Think about it lover...as always,

Reply
I love what you did to me in the shower, but for real, NO. sorry.
After your message I feel the need for another shower......

-> From: Larry
-> To:   Sara

Well, I'm glad that you enjoyed my response to your shower message as
much as I enjoyed the original...I understand your position too - and
while I'm disappointed, of course, I really do appreciate your feelings
and won't pursue the point. It'll remain with you as to whether you
want to change that at any time...and I'll let you take the initiative
from this point - which again I understand that at least for now is none.
     I'd love it if you would give me a massage here and tell me how you'd
do it...I'll respond, of course, or you can tell me any other fantasy or
thoughts or questions you'd rather hear or discuss. Any thoughts or ideas?
     I still think you're sweet - and I do understand, honest...
Extra-special kisses - and caresses...

Reply
One of my favorite fantasies is to be on a secluded beach with my
lover and have him rub suntan oil all over my body.........

-> From: Larry
-> To:   Sara

And as you lay there under the warm sun, I loosen the strings to your
top and let them fall to your side. The creamy white fullness of your
lovely breasts is evident even as you lay on your stomach. Taking the
lotion in my hands I rub them together and begin with your feet.
Bending your long sexy leg at the knee, I gently run lotion over your
feet - massaging it in as I go...moving up your calves...kissing your
toes as I do. And then the other lower leg, taking my time to knead
the cream into the soft firmness of your skin. I then move up the back
of your thighs - first on top...and then up the inside of your right
leg. As I reach just below your tight buns, I sense you tighten them
and push your pubic mound slightly forward. You sigh softly and spread
your legs to give me better access to your inner legs. I do the left
leg in similar fashion, though my fingers lightly brush against the
small tuft of hair protruding...my fingers lightly -almost accidently
push against your pussy as my strokes reach the top of the inner
surface of your thighs. I move forward and sit astride your legs now
as I do your back. The bulge in my suit strains as my cock begins to
grow in response to the touch of your skin and your beckoning but
subtle movements. I place my hands as the base of your back and move
slowly upward...my cock nestles againnst your pussy and pushes forward
and upward with my movements. Your back arches with me rythmically as
I move forward, again and again. This time my hands stop briefly at
the top of your back and slowly drop to th side of your chest...the
fullness of your breasts pushes them outward slightly and I stroke the
outer surface of each as your movements continue in sync with mine. My
hands go to your neck this time and linger as I massage your neck
muscles as you move your head in enjoy-ment...smiling..licking your
lips slightly in a very sexy but again subtle way. My hands retrace
again and this time you raise your back allowing me to cup your
breasts fully...you reach beneath with one hand and push my hands
together, rubbing them against your nipples...moaning slightly to my
touch. You roll over now, your breasts exposed...still full, even on
your back...your mipples erect...the mound of your pussy visible
through the sheer bikini bottoms. I reposition myself to your side and
begin to rub the lotion into your breasts...sliding down your stomach
as I do...your fingers rub against my leg and slowly move on finger
tips to my crotch as you slide them inside my suit and take hold of my
fully swollen shaft. You softly slide your fingers up and down its
length, feeling the slippery drops of lubricant that have worked their
way to the tip. My hands move slowly down your flat tummy and beneath
your suit to the silky hair above your mons. Rubbing softly, I move
lower to the wetness of your pussy. As my fingers reach the entrance
to your slit, you take your other hand and push my fingers into you as
you arch sharply upward and emit a soft but emphatic moan of ecstacy.
You take my cock now and slide my suit away from it...exposing it
fully...raising your lips and tenderly swallowing the tip...then
withdraw-ing it...then swallowing it again...deeper...and
again...deeper. Two of my fingers now probe your wet pussy and your
hips push against them as a my thumb rubs your wet and swollen
clit...you begin to move more quickly... and more quickly...and then
in rythm with your sucking movements as my cock slides in and out of
your lips...and then I feel your legs tighten around my fingers as
your hips almost leave the ground and you climax in a ripple of
spasms. Your fingers now grasp my shaft and you begin milking it with
them along with your lips and the trembling begins inside of me...and
as my hand reaches to surround your breast...the powerful muscles at
the base of my cock begin to convulse and the cum wells inside me for
a moment and then shoots forth in a gushing flow into your receiving
lips........



Reply
Wow! Where did you learn to write like that? The only problem is that
you got me all excited (really) and then didn't finish the message or
maybe you did and just a few words were left out. Anyway it was a turn
on and definitely made me wet. That is a fantasy that will be very
nice next time I do myself. It doesn't seem right that your message is
so long and mine is so short but what if we were in the hot tub?....

-> From: Larry
-> To:   Sara

In the hot tub?
Well, we would start by just getting relaxed in pleasant conversation...
getting to know each other...removing the inhibitions that are naturally
present that first time. We could talk about special sensual or sexual
experiences we had that were particularly memorably or enjoyable...getting
slightly turned on in the process. Feeling the warmth and the wetness in
each of us, you would slowly move toward me..our eyes would meet..and
our lips would touch for the first time in a gentle embrace. My cock
would begin to harden...as your breasts press against my chest and your
fingers glide gracefully against my fullness. Turning, I would ease you
out of the tub and slowly lay you back as my kisses would explore all of
you - beginning with your face and neck...fully covering your breasts and
protruding nipples...gliding down your tummy...lightly kissing your
furry mound and glistening slit..and enjoying your lightly spread legs.
Only after putting in a trance like state of relaxation, would I return
to your lovely pussy to focus the energy you now desperately desire on
your special warmth and wetness...
     That time together is available - let me know and we can pursue it
(as slowly as you like of course).
     Kisses - 'til I hear from your again,

Reply
Sounds so good. I would love to really do it but no thanks. Tell me
something about your life. Is it like your stories?

-> From: Larry
-> To:   Sara

Well, some of my stories are extracted from real experiences I s'pose...
I enjoy getting a good massage - and I have a masseuse who is very good.
And I've had some romantic episodes over the years that have provided
food for thought and fantasy as well...slowed down in recent years though!
I'm basically straight in my married life (though it is strained and the
thought of straying is very tempting)...very selective..and very discrete!
So extra-curricular fun is difficult to find - though it would be very
enjoyable with the right person.
     I enjoy talking and sharing - intimate play - tennis/walks - reading
and philosophic discussion - and my work.
     Tell me about you!! Is there something you'd like to know about me in
particular??
Bye for now,

Reply
I am just a middle of the road person. Nothing particularly exciting
although I am reasonably good looking. Thats why I can dress the way I
do. Tell me about your marriage, how is the sex, what do you like to
do, what turns her on?  Sara

-> From: Larry
-> To:   Sara

You are exciting, Sara...and I love knowing that you can dress the way you
do because you're good looking (and I presume that includes a sexy figure) -
but I don't know how you dress, so the picture is somewhat incomplete...
though I'd prefer a personal assessment sometime.
     As for marriage, in short it's not good...as to sex, that's not good
either - it used to be better...but over the past few years it's stale -
and that's really dissappointing 'cause I know I'm a good lover...like
to touch and be touched...like to experiment...like to talk quietly...like
to pay special attention to my partner's needs. In fact my wife is so narrow
in her sexual range that morning sex (which I love) is out of the question...
she is non-orgasmic except from 9-10 PM! I've had a number of lovers over the
years that shared a great sexual and sensual pleasure...but my wife, while
a good person in many respects..a good mother...a fun person to play tennis
with, see plays, etc....is not a sensual or sexual person. And I miss that!
     The best relationship I ever had was some ten years ago with a
girlfriend that was 10 years younger than me...I was 29 - she was 19. We
worked together...smiled at each other..and one day at a company party, went
for a walk. She had a tube top on...it was a hot summer night...she was
a beautiful lady...long, full dark hair..sparkling blue eyes...a mischievous
smile...firm tummy...gorgeous tan...long legs...and a great ass! She was the
most sexual person I've ever known - to this day. There are lots of stories
I could share with you about her...and I will...hopefully in person, but also
here if you like. And there are other stories that have been enjoyable and
are fun to think back about! I've been very selective - especially in
recent years...and have had only a few sexual partners (though I regularly
see a friend/masseuse who gives an excellent therapeutic massage...which
she ends with a wonderful hand job!!) Tell me about you too. Kisses - AM

Reply
My husband and your wife should get together, he is an evening person
too. Sometimes he does a really good job of getting me hot and giving
me an orgasm, sometimes not, but almost always in the evening. In the
morning he always hops out of bed and starts doing other things. Net
result is that I give myself a "hand job" some mornings. I have some
very good orgasms that way. I would like to hear about your young
friend with the tube top but here, not in person, sorry.
Kisses to you too,  Sara

-> From: Larry
-> To:   Sara

Her name was Sandy...that first night was like a dream. We were out walking
in the warm, moonlit night during a company party held at a local hotel. I
sensed more than an employment relationship and stopped, turned and took her
hands in mine...our eyes met...and then our lips (just like a movie - corney
but that's the way it happened.  We kissed and I felt her hand slide from
mine...down to my leg..and gently up against my bulging hard on. I don't
recall the words we spoke - but they were soft, caring, expressive of an
interest that had been mutually kindled over the prior months. I eased her
top down (we were in a semi-private area - and the knowledge that someone
might walk by actually heightened the excitement). Her breasts were full...
her nipples hard...her tan accented the fullness of her creamy breasts. I
cupped them...kissed them...nuzzeled against them. She suggested we get a
room since we both knew what we wanted. I quickly arranged it and we
literally tore each others clothes off in a frenzy of sexual excitement. She
sucked my cock as I had never known...I kissed and licked every inch of
her body...we alternatively made love and fucked and kissed and sucked for
4 hours...cumming and cumming...it was the first night of a relationship
that went on for the next 18 months. I'll share with you some of the other
times later...though I really do wish we could share them in person...when
you're ready, if you just need time...and in total discretion, as our
situations are similar in that respect..and with any other precautions either
of us need to feel comfortable. There were other times you might find fun
too....the night with a total stranger while staying at a friends in SF...the
apartment complex I lived in after my divorce...the 3 female and 1 male
roomies (was having fun with one..then one of the roomies -female, of course-
got into the act...though I never enjoyed the two of them together!)...the
matronly bank VP with the great ass...how about you? Descri

Reply
Your message was cut off again. You were just commenting about the
matronly bank VP asking something like how about you (meaning me) and
it ended. I can tell you one thing, my life hasn't been as exciting as
yours. I feel a bit bad about you writing such long letters and mine
being so short but I do enjoy your letters so much. I had one
experience that was unusual from the situation more that the sex. I
was going with this guy who had recently spearated from his wife (this
was between my marriages). We had some great times together, like he
was a really good fuck. Anyway my married girlfriend was telling me
about this affair she was having but hadn't told me the guys name. She
loved to give me all the details of their sexual exploits and they had
a familiar ring. Well it turned out we were doing it with the same
guy. Needless to say when he found out that we were telling eachother
about his sexual exploits, he dropped us both. What a poor sport. I
was sorry to see him go at the time, he could really turn me on, oh
well. So tell me some more of your great stories, I love them. Sara

-> From: Larry
-> To:   Sara

Well, I'd love meeting you and your girlfriend for a menage a trois just
for old times sake!! Sounds delightfully sensual. Now about the bank VP...
I had just returned from a job out of state for a few years...recently
divorced..and had been dealing with a banker friend of my dad. She was an
attractive lady of about 50 - I was 30ish. We were at a bank party one time
when she and I got talking about horseback riding sometime. I told her we
should do it that weekend and she said that would be fun (I later found out
she and her husband led very separate lives, he was a business exec and they
didn't have a lot in common but stayed married anyway...not, unfortunately,
like my situation sometimes). We arranged to meet at a restaurant up the
peninsula and planned on riding on the beach near SF. I suggested we visit a
friend of mine after we had ridden for a couple of hours...chatting and
enjoying the afternoon. After arriving, I introduced her and we all sat
around and had a few glasses of wine. After a bit, my friend left the room
for a while and she looked over at me and told me that the riding today had
given her crotch a sensual warmth and that she wanted me to continue that
good feeling...she kissed me and began to fondle my cock which was beginning
to bulge at her suggestion. It was getting late and we had to leave so I bid
my friend farewell and we left. We kissed and fondled each other on the way
to my car and when we got in, she began unzipping my pants exposing my
now fully rigid cock. She held it and smiled admiringly and began to suck
me softly and then plunging me deeply into her. We were parked in a fairly
secluded place and I moved the seat back and enjoyed her wonderful blow
job...I couldn't position muyself to fully reciprocate, but I was able
to loosen her clothes and massage her breasts...they were full and firm..and
her nipples stiffened at my touch. She move my hand down to her pussy which
was drenched and I fingered her and played with her clit. (c

Reply
Why do your messages always seem to end before you are finished. It
ended like this  "played with her clit. (c".  I assume after all this
she did have an orgasm.
One time I went sailing with this guy in SF bay. It was a rather calm
day and we had been necking quite a bit. We were over near Hunters
Point and things got so hot, sexually that is, that we anchored over
near Candlestick Park. We went down into the cabin and he slowly
started to undress me. He really enjoyed my breasts for a long time
but finally got all of my clothes off and his too. The seat/bunk was
rather small so I had one leg on and the other draped over on the
deck. That spread me wide open and he attacked with his mouth giving
me three orgasms. Then when he went in me the cushions we very firm
and I was spread, as I said, so he pounded all the way in very hard,
god it was great. I came again and he exploded inside me. It was some
of the best sex I have ever had.       Kisses, Sara

-> From: Larry
-> To:   Sara

Sorry to leave you hanging - what happens is that I run out of allowable
characters. Tried to continue - ("c... but your box was filled....- wish
it was filled by me!! Anyway, that's what happens...
     I liked your sailing story ...never fucked on a boat but I'll bet
the rocking sensation must be fun...actually, I'm not much of a sailor
but I'll bet we could rent one sometime and just enjoy it in its slip!!
Sounds like you like your breasts fondeled...lots of clit licking...and
deep, hard fucking! Me too...along with other variations of course.
     To finish the Bank VP story...
I was playing with her clit..she was very wet...she slid the jeans she
was wearing completely off ( I was a bit nervous since we were just parked
in the car, but it didn't seem to bother her...and the semi-public nature
of our tryst added to the fun). She was sucking my cock furiously now...
her mouth completely swallowing my shaft and her fingers alternately
rubbing my balls and ass and gripping my cock. She reached dowb with her
other hand and shoved my hand into her pussy...I had two and then three
fingers inside of her while rubbing her soaking wet clit and cunt hair...
she pushed her mound against my hand and came explosively...she moaned
enjoyably as best she could with my cock filling her mouth. And then I
started to cum...she held the head of my penis within her lips and
sucked against it as she milked me with her hand...she gripped harder and
slid up and down faster and I exploded my wad...white cum filled her mouth
and dripped over my pubic hair as she couldn't swallow it all. She kept
me inside of her as she sucked for a few more minutes. Then she lay her head
on my stomach and stroked my cock lightly as I did the same with her pussy.
We talked...shared our sense of satisfaction. And she looked up and confided
in me that she had never swallowed her husbands cum before..and that she
really liked it! Next time...perfect sex with a perfect stranger! Kisses
love.
Larry

Reply
Hmmm..perfect sex with a perfect stranger.....sounds interesting. I
have never done it with a complete stranger. Even the few one night
stands I have had were with guys that I had seen quite a few times at
a "body joint" bar before I made it with them. With one of them it was
in a car too but not in quite the same form. We had parked in a lovers
lane by a lake and were sitting in the back seat necking. It was a
cold night to the windows were all fogged over and no one could see
in. Things got very hot and I was fairly drunk so I just let things go
to see what would happen. He spent a long time on my breasts (yes I do
love it) and finally started on my pussy. I was wearing a skirt and
panties, so he slipped my panties off to get at me beter. Well after
he brought me to orgasm it was clear we shouldn't stop there so I
unzipped his pants, he pulled them down. His cock was sticking
straight up so I turned to face him and let it slip in me. With the
small amount of room in the car I was in complete control so I went
real slow, keeping him close to the edge for a long time. Finally he
got off and filled me with his come. It was very nice if a little
cramped.   Sara

-> From: Larry
-> To:   Sara

Yes - cars can be fun...still...but they are cramped...and potentially
embarassing (wet spots...police...etc). Loved your story though...and yes
it got my cock hard and sticking straight up too!! Wish you were here to
sit on it...
THE STRANGER:
     I was up at my SF friends house (the same one I visited the banker with)
and we had just come back from dinner and were talking about some old times
together back in Florida where we met when there came a knock at the door. He
answered and there stood a very attractive lady. He introduced her - we'll
call her Sara - I recalled he had talked about her before. She and her hus-
band were friends of his from Fla. and she was a sales rep for a Calif. based
company. We sat around and chatted for several hours and sipped several
bottles of wine. We had some familiar places and friends in common and she
really did not seem like the stranger she was. It was now about 3 AM and she
asked if she could stay the night (she had previously with my friend...as a
friend and house guest only). There were 3 bedrooms and we all said goodnight
and went to bed. As I lay in bed I couldn't help but think about her..she was
very attractive, intelligent, self assured...had great little tits - nice
sized, perky, and round...with a nice upward tendency, I guessed. She had
sexy long legs...I recall she wore black pants, a white frilly but business
like blouse, and a sport jacket.
     After laying in bed for a while...my eyes started closing...when I
noticed the door open. A shadow appeared..moved closer...and whispered "Are
you awake?" It was her! She was wearing a sheer nighty...she sat by the bed
and leaned close. She explained she had never done this...but she felt an
attraction to me...and sensed it was mutual. On hearing my concurrence, she
began kissing me. Our lips met and we kissed excitedly. It wasn't long before
her lips moved to my neck...to my chest..and down my stomach to my cock,
which had been straining beneath the sheet in a full

Reply
Oops my mail box was full. How does the story end?

-> From: Larry
-> To:   Sara

Hmmm...I forgot the story I was telling you...remind me and I'll let you
know what the ending was. Sorry love, 
Larry
....and I still want to know more about you...be as graphic and complete
as you'd like...and tell me about your thoughts and ideals too, not just
you physical dimension (though I love that too!)...and let's arrange a
meeting. I know this would be even more exciting if we could put the
thoughts with the face...it doesn't have be in a sexual setting (but 
that's ok too if you feel comfortable enough)...
Kisses,
Larry


================================================================

-> From: Morgan
-> To:   Sara

Sara:

I had another thing I was curious about, but if it is too personal, then you
don't have to answer it.  I saw that you mentioned that you have had a
homosexual experience.  I'd be willing to bet, based upon the large number of
women on this system who categorize themselves as being "bi" that many more
heterosexual women have experienced some interactions with another woman,
than heterosexual men have with another man.  Would you agree?  If so, have
you any ideas as to why this might be?  In your case, how did it come about,
and what thoughts went through your mind?
-Morgan

Reply
I really cant comment on your ideas but I can tell you about my first time.
The first time I did it with another woman was in college. It was with
my roommate. We were both sexually active with guys and both hit an
emotional low at the same time. Along with our natural curiosity it
just seemed like a way to comfort each other. It was one of those cold
winter nights (well it doesn't get all that cold in Berkeley but it
seemed that way). We went to bed together and held each other close.
All we really did was finger each other to orgasm but it was awful
nice at the time. Considering the guys I had done it with it was
really one of the best orgasms I had had. It makes me feel kind of
warm to look back on it. I haven't seen her in years, its a shame
to loose close friends like that.

-> From: Morgan
-> To:   Sara

Thank you for your letters.  I appreciated the replies to my questions.  One
question you didn't reply to was whether you agreed with me that there are
probably more predominantly heterosexual women who have had homosexual
experiences, than heterosexual men who have had the same.  And if so, why
might this be?

Was your experience with your college roommate a one time thing, or did it
reoccur?  And have you continued to have such relationships with other women?
Again, if this is too personal, then you need not answer all of this.

All for now.  I appreciate also your being able to reveal your "true" self.
-Morgan

Reply
Yes, I think you are probably right that there are probably more
predominantly heterosexual women who have had homosexual experiences,
than heterosexual men who have had the same. My opinion is that the
reason would be that men have a stronger mindset, things have to be a
certain way (some times called pig-headed, sorry). If it turns out
they have homosexual atitudes they will make it the whole thing. Women
tend more to go with the flow and let things happen to them, such as,
get married but still be involved with other women. So much for
opinions. As for being involved with other women, it was just that
time in college, we did do it more than once but only a few times.
So tell me something about your sex life, is it good?   Sara

-> From: Morgan
-> To:   Sara

Dear Sara:

Thank you for the reply.  Your comments were interesting.

As far as the answer to your question goes, the answer would be that it is
nonexistent right now.  I have been looking for someone compatible on and off
for the last few years, but my studies have limited the amount of time I have
to go out and meet people.  That is one of the reasons (actually, the primary
reason) I looked into this bulletin board.  As limited as the questionnaire
may be, it still tells me a lot more about a woman than I could tell just by
looking and talking to one briefly, and it tells me more than most personal
ads do.  Up to now I have not met anyone through MM, but I sure do my best to
give it a good shot.  There was one woman who sounded promising, but then she
got together again with her boyfriend.  I have met a few woman through per-
sonal ads.  Only one, well two, were promising.  One looked like it was
heading somewhere, but it turned out that she was having a relationship with
her housemate, and they got married!  She was nice enough to invite me to her
wedding, and I went!  The other one was with a foreign born woman who was 10
years older than me.  We had a few dates, but no relationship.  When I
inquired, she said that she just couldn't accept having a relationship with
someone so much younger than she was, as much as she enjoyed my company.

And thus, in summary, that has been my experience with women over the past
three or so years.  I am encouraged, at least, by the existence of this
system: at least there is some hope here.  There are also some women at work
who I am friendly with, but nothing has developed yet.

I'll ask you about relationships in the future.  How long did you date
various men until you decided to marry your husband?

Bye for now.    -Morgan

Reply
I was dating for about three years between marriages. I dated very
little before I married my first husband, that might have been why he
turned out to be the wrong guy. Do you go out with the women at work?
Sometimes you have to push a little to get a womans attention, some of
us like that (some don't).
Off-the-wall question. Have you ever had sex with a woman during her
period? I find that is my sexyist time. My first husband would do it
but my present one won't. I often end up masturbating when my flow
starts. What do you think?         Kisses,  Sara


-> From: Morgan
-> To:   Sara

Sara:
 
No, I haven't gone out with the women at work, but I am working on it.

As for the other question, the answer is no, but I'll keep it in mind for
when I get a relationship going in the future.
-Morgan

Reply
Don't just "work on it", go ahead and ask the prettiest girl for a
date.......   Sara

-> From: Morgan
-> To:   Sara

Hello Sara:

I got your words of encouragement.  I'll see what I can do.  Things aren't
always so easy when you see people often around work, and these could be
awkward if you were to let someone know that you liked them enough to date
them, when they may have no particularly strong interest in you.  That is why
I prefer to try to become friends with someone first, for then I can find out
if they really like me, or if they are just friendly to everyone they meet.
And, on occasion, I have found that certain women already have boyfriends, or
are even married! and that this knowledge has saved me some embarrassment.

-Morgan

Reply
Its been so long that I don't remember when I was last on. Sometimes I
am just not in the mood for the BBS scene. How about you?   My love
live hasn't been to wonderful recently but thats par for the course. I
did indulge in some petting with someone other than my husband though.
It was really a thrill considering how little we actually did. We were
in the hot tub, had quite a few glasses of wine and my husband had to
run to the store for some things for dinner. Hal, the other guy,
stayed in the tub with me and after a while we were very close and he
started rubbing my back and worked his way around to the front. It was
nice but about that time my husband came home and that was the end of
that. What's been happening to you?


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-> From: Mary
-> To:   Sara

Hi Sara, It's too bad he's conservative, and even more so that you find it
hard to talk to him. Well if you ever want to talk you know where my mail box
is! I really hope to hear from you soon.....Tell me whats on your mind.

Reply
Thanks for the reply. I am not sure if he is conservative or
doesn't appteciate my sexual qualities. Basically I think he is
too busy to think about them. If he is in the mood for sex we do
it, if he is interested in lots of foreplay, we do that and it is
generally good. If not its a quicky and he gets off but I don't.
In actual fact he is really a good guy, just not really into
pleasing me with sex. The result is that I don't want to do
anything to upset our marriage but I do have my daydreams about
sex, particularly making it with other women more than men. I
have had a few bi experiences in the past and my daydreams lead
(are part of) some very satisfying masturbation. It would be nice
to have someone to talk to about it and maybe share some
thoughts.

-> From: Mary
-> To:   Sara

susan, I think you are experiencing what a lot of women do. Men can be that
way sometimes, but if your husband is that way all of the time perhaps you
should give careful consideration to your situation. Sex is very important in
a marriage. Have you ever discussed it with him?
        Another thing, Daydreams about sex are great. You shouldnt worry if you
do
it and give your self a little pleasure at the same time! Masturbation is
very healthy! However, it is really nice to be satisfied by a man once in a
while; in fact, it is necessary. Hope some of this makes sense.
        your friend Mary.

Reply
Thanks for your comments Mary. Yes sex is important and I have
thought about my situation a lot. Its not that it is all bad. There
are some times we have good sex and I come long and hard. And he
really is a great guy so with a little help I can live through the
times when it is "just for him". As for masturbation, I guess I feel
okay about it but it has taken me a number of years to get to that
point. Even though my parents never said a word about it I still
somehow got the message it was bad. Do you masturbate much? How do you
do it?

-> From: Mary
-> To:   Sara

Hi, Glad to hear everything isn't too bad! As for me and masturbation, I do
it occasionally but my boyfriend usually keeps me pretty happy. When I do
however, I usually use a vibrator. What About you?
        Well, I just wanted to say that I really enjoy talking to you!
        Write Back Soon.......Mary

Reply
Well, I have used my fingers a lot but I do have a vibrator and use it
sometimes. Also I have just gotten a Water-pik, hand-held, in the shower, tht
is really great. Sounds like your boyfriend is okay. Do you have really good
sex with him all the time? I guess oral is the best for me but my husband
doesn't do it very often even though he says he likes it. Have to run....

-> From: Mary
-> To:   Sara

Sara, sorry it has been so long since I have written but I have had trouble
getting throught to this system. Never Have tried the water-pik by bet it
feels great! As far as  how good the sex is with my boyfriend i have to say
it is quite good ( oral sex is his specialty). However, I sometimes wish we
had another women in bed with us to help cover for him in his weak areas.
Thanks for the talk and please write back...Mary

Reply
Have you ever done it with another woman and a man at the same time?
If your boyfriend is good at oral sex I wonder what his weak areas
are. We had some really good sex this weekend. He ate me real well,
probably the best he ever did. I had 3 orgasms, god it was good. Also
we hadn't made it for almost 2 weeks and he got really worked up so
when he finally came I thought he was going to flood me. As usual I
didn't come again with him in me but the first part was so good and I
just love to be filled up that way. It really was some of the best sex
we have had, just wish I could figure how to make it like that all the
time.       Sara

-> From: Mary
-> To:   Sara

No I have never done it with a woman and a man and the same time but I always
have wanted to try it. I definately Know my boyFriend wants to try it. The
problem is that its hard to find people that are interested in trying stuff
like that; What do you say? "Come over to my place and lets have sex with my
boyfriend." I dont think that would work very well. I sure could use some
help in this area!
     My boyfriends only weakness that I know of is he is a quick comer when
he is to excited, but he usually gets the job done anyhow.
Well nice talking to you and looking foreward to your next note.
       Mary

Reply
Okay, I really understand that, getting off too quickly. As I have told you
that is sort of the situation with my husband although in his case it is
also not taking the time to get me off.
I don't remember if you said that you were interested in other women.
Certainly if you had a girl friend that you had more than a casual relation
with you could get her to become involved with you and your boy friend. Also
there are probably some girls on here that would be interested. You could
get to know each other and find out what kind of things she had done before
ever comitting to a face to face meeting. I would love to volunteer but I
won't, I definitely want to keep peace in the family.
Question. Do you get extra sexy when you have your period? Did I ask you that
before? I am about to start mine and I am extra sexy the first few days but
my husband won't touch me. My first husband would, it was messy but good.
      Sara

-> From: Mary
-> To:   Sara

Sara, Yes I get horny as hell during my period but neither I nor my
boyfriend will have sex during this time outside of the bathtub. It
is like you said "Messy but good" but it is a little too messy for
our tastes.
        Do You have children? Just asking because you said you wanted to
keep peace in the family. As For Finding people on this system, I
have so far found it rather difficult to get a face to face meeting
with anybody. Everybody I guess just wants to type and doesn't want
to talk either on the telephone or in person. I guess it is easier
this way but it seems less personal. Who Knows? Well it has been nice
talking with you...Good bye for now Mary

Reply
Sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you, I have had a
really bad cold but I am doing pretty well now. No we don't have any
kids around the house, they are with former spouses. Keeping peace in
the family just refers to our marriage.
      I know what you mean about people on this system not being much
on face to face. It is a place where you can share your thoughts
without any risk, somehow that doesn't work in person. There are
occassional parties at a local resturant, I have never been but some
say they are lots of fun. The announcements are one some of the other
DYMs like 408-733-6266 408-720-0724 and 415-964-3255.
      I sure have missed sex while I have been sick. My husband did me
one night with his hand but mostly I have been a lump of nothing. How
are things with you?   Sara

-> From: Mary
-> To:   Sara

Sounds like you have had some rought times. Sorry to hear it. Things have
been going Ok for me I guess....nothing to exciting to talk about. Thanks for
the dym numbers I really appreciate that. Well cant think of too much to say,
So I guess I will just look foreward to your next letter. Love Mary

Reply
Its been so long that I don't remember when I was last on. Sometimes I
am just not in the mood for the BBS scene. How about you?   My love
live hasn't been to wonderful recently but thats par for the course. I
did indulge in some petting with someone other than my husband though.
It was really a thrill considering how little we actually did. We were
in the hot tub, had quite a few glasses of wine and my husband had to
run to the store for some things for dinner. Hal, the other guy,
stayed in the tub with me and after a while we were very close and he
started rubbing my back and worked his way around to the front. It was
nice but about that time my husband came home and that was the end of
that. What's been happening to you?

-> From: Mary
-> To:   Sara

Good to hear from you! Nothing that exciting has happened to me! I'm just
a little bored,, not much new is happening with me. Sounds like you should be
going out with hal!


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-> From: Patty
-> To:   Sara

Hi Sara,

I was delighted to have you write.  I'm primarily interested in
women rather than men.  Women have always been better in bed
than just about any guy I've ever found.  I'd love to share my
life/love with you, anything to enrich another womans life.
Let me know what you want to talk about.   Patty

Reply
I guess you could say I am more interested in men that women being
married and all. I have had a few experiences with women in the past
and when sexual things haven't gone too well with my hsuband I do
think about doing it with a woman. I guess thats my fantasy when I
masturbate. Are you living with someone and what is your life like?

-> From: Patty
-> To:   Sara

Right now I'm living with a girlfriend/lover.  My life (both
sexually and otherwise) is going great.  Until I met up with
Kathy (my flame), life was the pits.  I'd been bi before that
but was sort of drifting between male lovers.  A constant
relationship with a woman was never something I thought I
would be involved in, more like a husband, 1.5 kids, and a
dog.

I used to fantasize about women alot, sometimes while I was
make love to men.  I've found that women understand me sexually
a lot more than men ever did, mainly cause they take the time
to please me !

How'd you first get started with women ?  Especially since you
seem so committed to your marriage ?

Patty

Reply
The first time I did it with another woman was in college. It was with
my roommate. We were both sexually active with guys and both hit an
emotional low at the same time. Along with our natural curiosity it
just seemed like a way to comfort each other. It was one of those cold
winter nights (well it doesn't get all that cold in Berkeley but it
seemed that way). We went to bed together and held each other close.
All we really did was finger each other to orgasm but it was awful
nice at the time. Considering the guys I had done it with it was
really one of the best orgasms I had had. It makes me feel kind of
warm to look back on it. I haven't seen her in years, its a shame
to loose close friends like that.

-> From: Patty
-> To:   Sara

Considering your wider selection of sexual partners, how did you
end up marrying your husband, i.e., was he this unsatisfying then
or did he change over time ?

When I was first introduced to sex with another woman, it was
very satisfying sexually, but left me emotionally and mentally
confused.  You know, "it feels so wonderful, why does society
think it is wrong".  The woman who introduced me happened to
be gay, so she was experienced and very good at lesbian lovemaking.
We had an affair that lasted several months (this was during my
senior year at high school), but I broke it off because guilt
made me miserable.  Sigh, must we always pay for our mistakes.
Like your friend, I lost touch and haven't heard from her
again.

Anyway, I hope to hear from you some more. Bye for now.

Reply
There were two reasons I ended up in this marriage. First is that he
is such a wonderful person in terms of treating me like an individual
not a piece of property. There just don't seem to be very many men
like that. Second the sex was very good at first, in fact, it was
fantastic. Sometimes I had so many orgasms I would nearly pass out.
Slowly we have drifted into the present situation, part of it is that
he spends so many hours at work he isn't all that interested in sex.
When we do have sex it is just that, quick sex, not much love. Don't
get me wrong though, sometimes it is still quite good so I will get
by. I very much know what you mean about guilt with other girls. I
feel I missed out on some good times because I felt guilty about that
kind of sex. Oh well, life goes on and I can dream.....

-> From: Patty
-> To:   Sara

Fortunately for me Sara, I've learned to overcome my guilt that
dogged me through college and caused me to pass up some good
times.  I understand completely about the problem of finding
a nice guy who understands and appreciates women. For me, it
has been a real problem .....

Fortunately, I've found a woman whom I relate to perfectly.  And
despite both of us working long and hard hours, we still have
found a way to keep the love, tenderness, sexual energy necessary
in any real relationship.  That's really the main difference with
men, under pressure/strain they tend to forget about some of
the subtle but important things in a relationship.

Why don't you share a few of your fantasies with me ?  I'll
relate some of mine both real and imagined.  I'm always
interested/curious to see if I think any different from other
women just because of my gay experiences.

Reply
I find the sounds of others making love to be very exciting. I enjoy
making a lot of noise myself sometimes its really wild when I have an
orgasm. What is your feeling about the sound side of sex, does it do
anything special for you? As for fantasies about women, it mostly has
to do with oral sex. I have my best orgasms that way and I want to do
it to another woman so I can feel her contractions when she has it.
Knowing how it makes me feel, it turns me on to think about bring
right THERE when it happens to her.
I have another question. Do you have sex during your period? I find I
am most sexy then but my present husband will have nothing to do with
me. It is a bit messy but I really want it when I have my period.

-> From: Patty
-> To:   Sara

Making noise during orgasm is fun !  I love talking my lover to orgasm
as I eat her.  We're both pretty noisy during sex .... it's just another
sense being stimulated.

I agree with you, knowing you are making love to a woman or being made
love to by a woman is very important for me.  I guess that's why I like
69ing so much, you are completely immersed in your partners body and
can enjoy and sense her excitment and orgasms as well.  Watching her
vagina and anus go into contractions is visually very stimulating.  If
you are interested in really feeling the vaginal contractions you should
try "fisting".

Sex during my period is a tough one.  You're right though, I'm usually
at my horniest during that time.  If handled right, sex during your
period can be performed without too much mess.  If you have a diaphram,
you can insert that prior to sex, and your hubby probably won't even
know, especially if he doesn't usually go down on you before fucking.
Oral sex is a little more difficult, but can be performed.  But in this
case it's more to satisfy your lover than for you to get to much into
the pleasures of oral sex.  Usually, you confine yourself to the outer
vaginal lips and the clitoris.  A lot of times we use strap on dildos or
other toys to help out during our periods.  Course it helps a lot that
our periods occur at the same time now.

Reply
What is fisting? I guess my limited experience with women really
shows. I do appreciate you sharing so much with me. I don't even have
a diaphram any more but that is a good idea, of course when you live
with someone they pretty much know when you have your period anyway.
My first husband was willing to do it when I had my period (sometimes)
and we just put a towel on the bed, messy but nice and of course a
shower immediately after. I know I complaing about sex with my husband
but last night was great. For whatever reason he was in great form and
ate me to 3 orgasms, it was fantastic and I was loud when I came. I
think our conversation here made me more concious of it and so I was
even louder.    Sara

-> From: Patty
-> To:   Sara

Fisting is a term used to describing fucking a woman using your hand balled
up into a fist.  With lubrication and a little work, someone with small
hands, like another woman, can put their entire hand into a woman's pussy
and fuck her. Believe me, it is one of the ultimate ways to get off.
No man's cock can compete with a fist and arm.

Do you engage in anal sex in any form ?  Ever tried or thought about
trying to fuck your husband's ass (dildo, fingers) ?  Does he like eating
or fucking you anally ?

Patty

Reply
Wow, fisting sounds great but as you say the person would have to have
a reasonably small hand. I love to use a lot of lubrication, its just
sort of sloppy fun. Sometimes my husband and I start our sex with
mutual masturbation using lots of hand lotion, its great. Anal sex,
yes I have done it a few times, I have to be very hot before I am
willing. My present husband isn't into such things but I did it with
my first husband a few times. I use to put 1 or 2 fingers in his ass
and he loved it but, as I say, my present husband, no way. With my
first husband we use to help the other one put their own fingers in
their ass too, kind of an interesting experience. So much for times
past. What do you think about anal sex and what sort of things do you
do?        Sara

-> From: Patty
-> To:   Sara

Fisting is fun.  Actually, having small hands helps, but generally if
your partner is willing to be slow, gentle, and use lots of lubricant, 
you can usually do it with anyone.  The vagina starts to dialate during
the process (usually when the woman is totally turned on) and that's when
you can slide the fist all the way in.
 
Gee, as for anal sex I use to not do it very much, only when I was very
turned on would I engage in it.  With women it has usually been a different
story.  More often than not during oral sex, my female lovers perform
analingus on me or push (usually) several fingers up my ass.  My current
girlfriend enjoys fully exploiting my ass.  She has really gotten into eating
my ass, using her fingers, and shoving vibrators and dildoes up it.  Right
now, our lovemaking usually involves some sort of anal sex and I've gotten
very used to it.  I can accommodate very large dildos relatively easily. 
I've
also learned to enjoy fingering and tongue fucking a womans asshole.
However, one has to have a great deal of trust with your partner before you
can do any of this stuff.  Cleanliness is very important.

Other things (whew) that I enjoy a lot are kissing and cuddling.  Oral sex
really turns me on as well.  I especially love sixty-nining cause it feels
so good to have women make oral love to me (they really are best at it) and
know that it is a woman (mainly by having my face buried in her crotch at
the same time).  I tend to be the more passive partner and usually the
bottom half of a sixty-nining session.  I also enjoy it when my lover humps
my face.  To be perfectly honest, almost every aspect of sex turns me on
and I enjoy it.

Patty

Reply
I always thought I was a pretty sexy lady but you go me one better, I
think thats great. People should enjoy themselves. The best part of
oral sex to me is the close feeling when the person comes, you are
right where the pleasure is, too bad I don't like to swallow cum a bit
more. That is where woman to woman sex would be the greatest but as I
guess I have said I haven't done it for many years. How often do you
have sex? In my case its about once a week, not really enough.

-> From: Patty
-> To:   Sara

Frequency of sex is always a big problem for me.  I usually engage in it
four times a week or so (twice on weekends, twice during the week) on
average.  I love sex a lot, but the big problem is that my lover (Julie) or I
are so busy and our sexual session usually take 1 to 2 hours.  It literally
eats up an evening (no pun intended) to make love (what with eating, chores,
etc.).  I agree, once a week would be unbearable for me .... maybe you should
try to find a female friend to enjoy and pick up the slack a bit.  Now I know
why you masturbate so much.
 
Can you deep throat your husband during oral sex ?  Does he like eating you
or does it take a lot of effort to get him to go down on you ?  Do you
fantasize sexually, or look at other women sexually when you see them ? 
 
Talk to you later, 
 
Patty
 
Reply
Well at least if you are too busy to have sex as often as you would
like you have a full life. Thats better than waiting around for sex
you may not get. I can deep throat but we don't do oral sex very
often. When we do, mostly he does me but as you say it takes a lot of
effort (or is it luck) to get him to do it. I don't really fantasize
about other women when I see them, more when I masturbate. I do have a
good look at other women but more in generall appreciation for their
clothes and figure. It would be nice to have a girl friend to take up
the slack but I really don't want to mess around outside marriage even
with a women. Guess my fingers and vibrator will have to do. Do you
ever have sex with men anymore or is it all with your friend?

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-> From: Tanya
-> To:   Sara

That's interesting, my first experience was with my first college roommate
too.  I went to school at the University of Florida.  It gets extremely hot
there at night (no change from the days) and it was common for me, my
roommate, and some of the other girls on the floor to run around in just our
panties.  Before coed dorms....  Anyway, one night we had been sitting around
getting high before going to bed and were just absolutely fried when we hit
the pillows.  I was just laying there drifting, feeling horny, when I heard
this kind of wet, slurpy sound that sounded familiar.  I looked over in the
moonlight and Joanne was playing with herself.  I surprised my self with a
tingle that started in my clit & spread... I was both slightly shocked and
relieved when she whispered well, what are you waiting for?  Needing no
further urging, I followed suit and we both came quickly.  She came over to
my bed, kissed me, and then proceeded to work me over from head to toe.  I
came so many times I got incoherent and have loved doing it with ladies ever
since.  The next day Joanne explained that she'd been horny for me since the
first day of school & she just couldn't resist.  So, we got together
frequently for the next 4 years for some real wild times, but those are other
stories...
                       Tanya

Reply
Sounds like you had some great times with Joanne. I really love it
when the other person comes (man or woman) its such a turn-on for me.
My roommate and I use to masturbate and watch each other come but it
is a lot more fun to do it to the other person. And I do love multiple
orgasms for me which I have only done when a guy eats me. Somehow the
few times I have done it with other women we each only came once. How
long have you been out of school? For me its been a long time and I
have had only a few experiences with women since then. Being happily
married and sexually satisfied helps but I do think of the "good old
days" sometimes. Fortunately my husband is a good lover so sex is
nearly always satisfying. Even so I do it to myself sometimes. I
really enjoy your messages.   Sara

-> From: Tanya
-> To:   Sara

I agree, it's a real turn on to watch another person come.  That's one of the
things I like best about sucking a man's cock.  Sometimes I like to deep
throat it and swallow his cum, but most of the time I like to pull my head
back just at the right time and watch the jizz explode from his cock.  There
have been times when just seeing that has made me come myself.  Once, I made
love to a guy who hadn't had any in six months (or so he said) and you could
actually hear him squirt.  I thought I was going to drown...  At the moment,
my sex life is rather limited.  I'm between men (and probably will be for a
while, I'm burned out on the single scene.) and I have a couple of girl
friends that I get together with occasionally for a little idle recreation.
So, I have my hands, shower massage, and latex toys for company and we all
get along quite well.  I'm glad you're happy with your husband in bed, most
of my married girlfriends aren't.  They say that they've seemed to lose
interest over the years.  You said that you & your husband have done some
interesting (I think that was the word) things over time.  Being the voyeur
that I am, like what?   Anyway, keep in touch.  I like "talking" to you too.
Tanya

Reply
I don't know about six months, seems like a long time to go without
sex. But I do know that if I haven't had it for a few days it seems to
be easier to have an orgasm. As for loosing interest over the years, I
will have to admit we don't do it as often, probably about twice a
week but since it is good, I have no complaints.
Lets see...interesting things, well I guess we haven't really done
aything all that unusual. Different places in the house, I like in
front of the fire the best but that isn't unusual at all. We once did
it on the bathroom vanity. I had just taken a shower and he came in
naked, backed me up to the vanity and started necking. After a bit of
petting I was pretty wet and he sat me on the vanity and put his
lovely cock inside me. He was standing and I was sitting. I really
didn't think I could come that way but surprise, it was great. About
being a voyeur, me too. I like to hear the sounds others make when
they are doing it. I have never seen but I have heard. How about you,
have you ever seen or heard others having sex?    Sara


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-> From: Walter
-> To:   Sara

Think I know what you mean about "enough" orgasms.  I've always felt like the
women I've been with need a little more than what I'm capable of.  So, I try
to take foreplay (is that spelled right?) as far as I can before having
intercourse.  They (except for my ex-wife) seem to appriciate it.  And, it
makes me feel good too.  In fact, I think that I get more turned on from
making a woman come several times before intercourse than from finally being
inside her and having an orgasm with her.  That's the crowning achievement
though. So, what kind of bedroom activities do you like the most?  As I've
mentioned, I'm not the most experienced guy you'll ever meet (or not meet in
this case), so all I really know about is pretty much straight sex.  When I
was living with Peggy (the bi gal I told you about) she had a great way of
waking me up in the morning.  She'd wake up about 5am, get under the covers,
masturbate and suck me til I got an erection (which didn't take too long),
then she'd climb on and start moving up and down very gently.  About the time
that she was really getting in to it, I'd wake up.  Can you belive that I
slept through that? Boy, do I wish she was around to wake me up now!  Well,
got to run... Take care of yourself & write soon, Walter

Response:
Walter, I cant really believe you would sleep through that. I have never
tried that on my husband, sounds like an interesting idea. We don't
ususally do it with me on top, it seems more difficult for me to have an
orgasm that way. Sounds like you are a very considerate lover, giving a
woman orgasms before you have yours. Too bad more men aren't that way.
I guess I mostly like "straight" sex but with lots of oral foreplay. It
feels best when a man is inside me and pushing very hard. Sometimes I
end up kind of sore but it sure is good at the time. I have only had
anal sex once and don't think I am missing anything but I do like it
when a man fingers my rear while eating me. Have you ever had sex in any
unusual places? I think about that sometimes but haven't had any really
exciting things happen.

-> From: Walter
-> To:   Sara

Yeah, it does sound strange that I'd sleep through that, but Peg is a real
catlike gal and I guess that I sleep a little deeper than most.  But, it was
a great way to wake up (specially for a guy like me who hates the morning).
I know a lot of gals don't like it on top but, you ought to give it a few
more trys.  If you put a good sized pillow under your man's back it will let
your legs fall down beside his hips farther and; instead of lying on top,
just kneel and lower yourself on to him.  When he's inside you, you can
change the angle by leaning forword or back.  When you change the angle, it
should change the amount of pressure on your clitoris and since you will be
pretty much controling the action, you will be able to make the speed
coincide with the pressure that you want at the time.  Your man should like
it as well since just about his whole penis will be inside you and; as you
probably know, most men like the feeling of being deep inside a woman.
Anyway, don't give up on being on top... give it a few more shots to check it
out.  It's a shame that part of your note was garbled... the part where it
said, "It feels best when a man is inside me and...." and thats where I got
bunches of crazy characters.  I'm really sorry that whatever it is makes you
sore but I'm glad that you enjoy it!  As far as anal anything goes, I guess
that's kind of a health hazard nowdays.  But, I used to date this one gal who
just loved to have her vagina and anus fingered at the same time.  She had
the most phenominal orgasms when I did that.  The first time it really scared
me, I thought she was going into convultions.  Anyway, as far as sex in
strange places goes, well.... I'm about like you are on that score.
Although, when I was in high school I was visiting this girl in Kern County
and we came real close to getting it on at the county museum.  Does that
count?  Well, got to get a move on... almost 4am (yawn)  Take care and jot a
line or two real soon... Walter

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Okay, I am convinced, I will go for on top and see what happens. He
pretty much likes to have control so I will have to wait for my
chance. As for getting sore, not really a problem. Its just that he
pounds into me so hard some times I end up a little sore but not in
the important parts. I lubricate a lot so no problem there.
I am not sure if I have "phenominal" orgasms but I do make a lot of
noise when I come. There have been times when I know other people have
heard me but that actually makes it more exciting. Did I tell you
about the time someone actually watched my first husband an I making
love? I find that letting myself go with lots of moaning makes it better
for me and guys have told me it turns them on. I think my husband
likes it, at least he doesn't complain, I just wish he would make me
do it more, oh well. So what are you doing up at 4AM?

-> From: Walter
-> To:   Sara

Oh yeah, 4am!  Well, it seems as though I went over to a friend's house
yesterday to copy some programs and he's not too organized (or maybe he
thinks that he's organized and he's not).  Well, I came away with about 15
discs.  Some had programs but no system, some had programs and systems but
there was data on the disc that had nothing to do with the program.  Anyway,
it took about 6 hours to sort it all out.  I ended up with what I went for,
it just took a lot longer than I had intended.  But, I think that I've
mentioned before, I am one of the original night people!  Anyhoooo, I'm glad
that you mentioned the moaning (or noise in sex in general).  The galthat I
told you about (the one with the real heavy orgasms), well, we had some real
good sex (at least I thought we did).  It turned out that when I did that
little trick with my finger in her anus and my thumb in her vagina (which
incidently lets the heel of your hand rub up against the clitoris) and
thought that she was having convulsions.... it turns out that she had been
keeping herself under control for several months and that was the trick that
made her lose it.  She said that since I was so serious about lovemaking, she
thought that she ought to be serious about it too.  Well, just goes to show
what can happen when a guy and a gal don't talk... What do you mean "you wish
he would make you do it more"?  Do you mean have sex more often, make you
come more when you have sex or what?  I guess I'm kind of like you, I don't
have sex enough to suit me so, I spend lots of time masturbating.  If the
truth were known, I'm lucky I get to do it with a woman once a month.  Guess it
pays
to have a vivid imagination, huh?  Well, looks like I'm about to run out of
room again!  Take care and write soon...
                                       Walter

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I guess we have sex reasonably often, about twice a week. The
problem is I don't have orgasms every time unless we have oral
sex. Then it is okay, sometimes I even come twice. It is the
times when there is very little foreplay that I don't like.
Sometimes I masturbate later or the next day to make up for it.
Even when I do myself I like to make lots of noise, just makes it
feel better.

-> From: Walter
-> To:   Sara

I sure do wish I could find a person like yourself!  Not you personally (I
don't want you to think I'm comming on to you, cause I'm not), but someone
like yourself who needs a little more out of sex than others.  Being single
and a little (well, let's face it, VERY) shy, I spend more time with "Mother
Thumb and her four daughters than I care to think about.  I guess that I was
born a few years too early, the sexual revolution came and went and I didn't
even get to fire a shot!  Not that I'm any kind of expert, but I understand
that it's a lot harder for a woman to masturbate to orgasm than it is for a
man.  Is that true?  What I mean is, does it take a lot longer and you need
more uninterupted time?  I know that when I do it, it's like I just want to
get finished with it sometimes... you know, kind of like getting done with
something that needs to be taken care of...  You mention oral sex and how you
don't always have orgasms unless you partake of it... do you ever climax from
straight vaginal intercourse?  I know that it pretty much of an impossibility
to climax together everytime, but I was wondering if you ever do.  I've had
it happen twice... once with Peggy and I thought she was going to break my
penis when she came.  Of course, she used to do exercises to keep those
muscles toned-up, so that may have had something to do with it.  I used to
kid her about the exercises, but; she had so much control in her vagina that
she could almost make me come without either of us doing any thrusting in and
out.  Gees, thinking about that makes me wish that she hadn't been quite so
tight with her share of the rent and such!  Oh well... easy come, etc...
well, take care and write soon...
                                Walter

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Is it harder for a woman to masturbate to orgasm? I don't really know.
When I do it to my husband it takes a long time but that probably has
to do with the fact that we both want it to. How long would it take if
he wanted it quickly? Maybe I will try to find out sometime. Anyway
for me its more the mood than the time, of course time can help get in
the mood. I think I have done in 3 minutes or less. I like to do it in
the shower and there are times when I have to hurry things. Most of
the time I like to take at least 10 minutes. Yes I can have an orgasm
with a man in my vagina but again its mood that counts. Unfortunately
that doesn't happen too often. As for both having an orgasm at the
same time, that has happened a few times but not lately. I don't think
it is too important. The main thing is that both be satisfied which is
what I miss much of the time. Sounds like maybe you miss Peggy a lot.
I would like to hear more about your times together.

-> From: Walter
-> To:   Sara

Well, I don't really know what to tell you about Peggy.  She and I weren't
together that long (only about four months, maybe five).  We really enjoyed
each other except for a few quirks.  We were great in bed together and liked
many of the same things in life.  I'm not sure where her problem came from,
but, although she spent 5-6 nights a week with me, she still kept her
appartment.  I think that her independence was threatened.  Anyway, she
couldn't afford to help out with my rent and after paying child support & all
the other stuff I couldn't afford the larger appartment... oh well... I think
that what it gets down to now is, that I've been alone for a while now and
all I have to think about are the memories, that's why I miss her.  How about
a brighter thought or two... you mentioned mood in your last note a couple of
times.  If you wouldn't mind, I'm curious, what kind of mood are you talking
about?  I think I've mentioned Kathy before, she used to have the best time
in bed if she were a little depressed about some thing when we started.  It
was almost like it got a lot better because she had the problems lifted from
her mind.  What do you think?  Well, take care of yourself,
                                                          Walter
PS:  After I wrote you the other day, I thought that maybe I shouldn't have
made the comment about comming on to you (even though I wasn't).  Well
anyway, I hope you took it as a serious complement and nothing more.  Bye-bye

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Well you know that is a really good question, about moods. Basically it has
to do with how I am feeling about sex at that particular moment rather than
other things in life. Of course if I am angry at my husband that generally
affects how I feel about sex. Some times I just get sexually very hot, maybe
its need, maybe its how my partner is acting. I guess you could just put it
down to some times are better than others. When I get really hot I want to
come more than once and it has been a couple of those times when I was
willing to do anal sex. I am not sure I really like it but if I am in the
right "mood".....
I don't think you told me about Kathy, I'm listening.
No problem about "coming on to me", we are having a good time here and thats
fine.

-> From: Walter
-> To:   Sara

So, you want to know about Kathy... well, she was a really fine lady in my
life.  With out a doubt the best of the bunch... small though the bunch was
(or is for that matter).  Kathy was the gal that had such a tremendous climax
that I thought she was having a seizure or some such thing and got really
scared.  Well, anyway... we went together for about two years.  We would have
made a real good couple and I think, a real good life together if I hadn't been
quite so selfish.  She just wanted to love someone and picked me out... I
wanted sex and someone to love me... but, I also wanted to have my kids, my
home and everything that went with them.... Well, in other words, I wanted my
cake and to eat it too... that dosen't work... as I found out...after a
while, she told me to get lost.  I  don't blame her for that.  In your last
note you said that I missed Peggy.... well, there isn't a day that goes by
that I don't kick myself for losing Kathy... if I miss anyone, it's her.
Unlike my exwife, she was always ready to make love... not just have sex
(which my ex wife wasn't willing to do either) but to make love.  She really
enjoyed and wanted me to be with her and in her.  She gave every ounce of
energy to prove it all the time.  Funny thing was that when she'd have one of
those "I can't control myself" climaxes, she'd get all embarrassed about it.
She'd tell me how she felt bad that she lost control and wasn't paying
attention to what I wanted... boy, that just made me want to do it again and
again... so much for that... she's gone and I DO miss her... she still works
for the same company that I do.... every once in a while I look her up in the
company directory, just to see what she's doing... but that's about as far as
I get... wouldn't dare call... after what I did to her... well, it wouldn't
seem right.... anyway... running out of room again.  Boy do I get wordy
sometimes... take care and jot a note soon,
                               Walter

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I don't mind you getting wordy, I like it, just wish I had as many
words to return. It seems the story is that Kathy was an affair you
had while still married, then she turned you off, then later you got
divorced. What isn't clear is why Kathy is so off limits now if you
are free (are you free?). Not that any of it is my business. Yes you
had told me about Kathy before but I don't think you mentioned her
name. Its too bad some women can't enjoy sex, like your wife, while
some of us really get turned on like me and Kathy. What was it like
with your wife, there must have been something?

-> From: Walter
-> To:   Sara

Don't mind the question at all...  Well, let me try to explain... you're
right, Kathy and I had an affair while I was still married (and, yes I am
free now).  I guess that the only reason that she's off limits now is that
I'm making her so.  After lots of soul searching, I saw what I had done to
her and; it didn't make me real proud of it... I think I really hurt her.  I
found myself telling her anything that I thought she wanted to hear, just to
get what I wanted out of our relationship and; I didn't have her perspective
in mind at all... that's not how to develop a partnership.  Wounds like that
don't go away... I doubt that she'd talk to me anyway... The wife thing...
yeah, there was something there (and I guess that there still is a little).
We were very young and; as many young folks do, we had sex before we got
married.  Well, as it turns out, she got pregnant and we got married (very
formal... white shotguns)...  I hope that you've figgured out by now that sex
to me is a very special thing between two adults... one shouldn't put out
just because the other wants it... it should be a mutual desire... anyway,
after we got married, she sort of took on the attitude that if I REALLY HAD
to do that, then she'd put up with it... her idea of fun in bed was to bring
me toast and coffee in the mornings.  Then, there was the weight thing... she
kept getting heavier and heavier... wish I had some of the money back that
she spent trying to take it off.  Because of some religious hang-ups, I guess
she thought that I wouldn't get a divorce (ever), so she could do what she
wanted and things would be great forever... But, even I could put up with
only so much... and here I am... Yeah, we had kids... how did we get them...
you know about the first one... the second came when she thought the marriage
was falling apart and needed help... had me fooled... I thought she had a
change of attitude about our relationship... well, looks like I've run out of
room again... TTFN, Walter

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Sounds like a pretty terrible marriage. How long did it last? I guess
some women just aren't interested in sex, too bad for them and their
partners. You say she was religious, maybe that was part of the
problem. I definitely won't let anyone tell me how to run my life in
that way. As for getting heavy, well that happens. I know quite a few
heavy ladies who have great sex lives. We all could afford to loose a
few pounds, most of mine is on my hips (but not too much). Also I am
rather large breasted but men like that. Are you a breast man or don't
you care?

-> From: Walter
-> To:   Sara

Well, it wasn't an altogether terrible marriage... but, then again it wasn't
the greatest either.  I think you missed my point...one of the big reasons
that we stayed together as long as we did was part of our religion...
something that we both grew up with.  It's real hard to change your mind
about some things when you've grown up with them.  Anyway... water under the
bridge... Your question about being a breast man.... now, there's an
interesting subject.  I have asked myself that same question many times.  To
tell the truth, I don't know... I look at some ladys and think that they are
very attractive when there isn't much on top... and others who have a great
deal to offer are also attractive to me.  I guess that as far as I'm
concerned, it all comes down to how well the whole package is put together.
You know, does everything look like it belongs there.  I have to say that of
the few women I've been with, their chest size hasn't made too much diference
in the quality of their love making.  But, in the final analysis, I guess
that like most men, the first thing that attracts my attention is a woman's
breasts.  So, from that standpoint I would think that I'm a breast man...
but, past that it doesn't bother me one way or t'other.... well, got to
run... getting a little late...hmmmmm, just thought... since you have an
attraction to women as well as men... what do you think... what turns your
head and gives you ideas when you see a lady that gets you a little excited?
Well, I mean it this time.... got to go... take care and write soon...

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I think most guys are breast men, at least they are when they
look at me. I enjoy making myself attractive for them,
particularly in the summer with no bra. What do I look for in a
woman, overall figure and dress, then face and breasts too. Have
you found that women with small breasts are unhappy about it,
some of my girlfriends sure seem to think they are missing
something important. I understand more about your marriage now,
thanks.   My period is comming on soon, makes me more sexy. Do
you have sex when the woman is having her period? How do you feel
about that?

-> From: Walter
-> To:   Sara
                                                                             Sheets are not the reason, a towel in the right place will take care of that.
Funny you should ask about having sex with a woman when she's having her     Some women just don't feel it is the right thing to do, same with some men.
period... I only did that with my little bi friend Peggy... for some reason  It is a bit messy but I like it.
she had a real light period... wasn't much there at all... to be honest if it
weren't for the occasional cramps, I wouldn't have noticed the diference...
but, I didn't have any cares about it one way or the other... for the most
part it was the gal who didn't want to have sex when she was having her
period and not me... there seemed to be a big concern about the sheets!Well,
they're going to shut the system down shortly, so... guess I've got to go...
maybe I'll write more later... take care,
                                        Walter

-> From: Walter
-> To:   Sara

Hey Sara,
Sorry I haven't gotten back to you but, things have been keeping me away from
the computer.  So.... anyway, curious you mentioned your friends with the
small breasts... the ones who think that they're missing out on something.  I
knew a couple of gals (a few years back) who thought just the opposite...
in fact, they were real serious about having a reduction done... they sort of
felt that everyone was out to get them.... the guys, the bra manufacturers...
Not to mention the (and I don't know this for a fact being very flat chested
myself) pain of having to lug all that arround and have it bounce up and down
besides.  So, how does your husband feel about you going bra-less in the
summer... personally, I don't mind it at all (watching bra-less women that
is)... my ex used to do that sometimes, but she was so overweight that no one
paid much attention.  So, it didn't bother me.  Kathy used to go bra-less
once in a while but; she had very firm breasts and not too large... so, no
one paid much attention to her either (for that reason anyway... she was very
attractive in the first place (asside from the great sex and good
relationship, I really enjoyed showing her off)... then, on the other hand,
Peggy.... well, I can't remember ever seeing her wear a bra... but, then
again, talk about flat chested.... I think that I've got more chest than she
does... just thought... Kathy once told me that she was kinda disapointed in
her breasts... wished they were larger... she used to call them
"teeny-bopper-tits".... well.... on that happy note, think I'll call it an
evening.... take care of yourself and I'm really sorry I didn't get back to
you sooner.... write a line or two when you get a chance...
                                                           Walter

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I know what you mean about some women with breasts bigger than they
want. One of my girlfriends had breast reduction done and she really
likes it. I am very happy with my size and let people know it by the
way I dress particularly in the summer. When women have small breasts
I think it is such a waste to wear a bra. Somehow mothers should learn
not to be so repressive with their daughters, fortunately mine was
very liberal. She had me on the pill 2 years before I had my first
sexual experience.

-> From: Walter
-> To:   Sara

I really agree with your Mother... better safe than sorry and; of corurse, now
days it's a pretty good idea to use a condum.... But I'm not sure if I agree
with you on the bra issue.  As I've mentioned, I enjoy a bra-less woman as
much as the next guy.  However, as time goes on a woman's chest muscles start
to weaken and sag... I guess that what I'm saying is that it's ok if the gal
keeps it in mind that she really has to keep those muscles in shape... Of
course, she not only has to have it in her mind, she has to do something
about it... exercise every day.  It only takes five minutes, so what's to
lose?  Well, best be running... take care & write soon,
                                                       Walter

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Yes, I suppose exercise would be a good idea. I jog but don't do
anything for my breasts. Enough about breasts, what is the most
orgasms you have given a woman in one love making session? Sometimes I
have 3 or 4 with oral sex. Sometimes none with regular sex (bah!).

-> From: Walter
-> To:   Sara

Boy, can you ask some questions... I don't really know... I guess that it's
different with different women.  And I'm not too sure how a woman counts
orgasms.  Like with Kathy... well, she'd start off with a few shakes and
shudders and it was all up hill from there... but I'm not alltogether sure if
it was one orgasm that just kept growing or if it was several that started
small and ended up big.  I'm just not sure.  But, one thing is certain
though, and that is that I always tried to make sure that whoever I was with
was at least on the verge of comming before I entered her.  Kathy told me
once that she really liked having sex with me because I was able to bring her
up close to an climax and then back off and take her down slowly and then
back up again several times... she said that it made our time together a very
pleasant experience... it made her feel as though she didn't have to control
anything... she could just lay there and enjoy... Of course, she wasn't the
kind who wouldn't pull her share either... she knew just about how much
teasing I could stand and would back off at the appropriate moment.  We would do
that for the longest time... although I never thought about watching the
clock, so I couldn't tell you just how long it was.  You seem to really enjoy
oral sex.  Which to you enjoy more giving or recieving?  What do you enjoy
about it the most?  How about with another woman... are you active or
passive?  Questions, questions, questions... but, how's a guy supposed to
learn about this stuff...  I've never been too good at oral sex myself...
then again... I guess that practice makes perfect and; if you don't practice
you'll never get the hang of it!  Well, got to run... take care and jot a
line or two (wish you'd write more - I enjoy your letters so much) when you
have time....
             Walter

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When it comes to oral sex I will have to admit I prefer to receive
than give. Its oral sex that really gets me off, the 3 or 4 orgasm
trip. Its orgasms that I want and I have difficult getting them with
the guy in my vagina, sometimes it works but not often. I don't think
I do a very good job of giving head and having the man come in my
mouth isn't too good for me. Yes I have done it but I keep it a
minimum. As for other women I have had almost no experience. Just a
few times with my roommate in college, but I do fantasize about other
women sometimes. Please feel free to ask me any questions, I'll do my
best to answer. Can you have more than one orgasm in a love making
session?      Sara

-> From: Walter
-> To:   Sara

Well, my record for multiplicity of orgasms (I've been waiting for years to
use that word!) is six in one session... but, that was a long, long time ago.
In fact, it was when I got married... on our honeymoon (such as it was)...
normally, I guess that I'm a regular guy... you know, once in a session...
maybe twice... but, since I don't have what one would call a regular sex
life, the point is really moot.  When I was with Kathy (and Peggy too for
that matter) I would usually come when we went to bed (after a lot of lovin')
and again in the morning... Damn, that was a great habit to get into!  But,
that still gets down to once per session...  How come you don't feel that you
do a great job of giving head?  If there aren't a lot of complaints, then I
would think that you're not doing so bad.  But, then again, I don't have too
much room to talk... I don't think I'm so hot at going down on a woman
either.  In fact, Peggy once told me that if there was anything I needed
practice at it was going down on her...  Well, getting late... so, I'll be
running off to bed...
                    Take care and jot a note soon,

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Six orgasms is quite a few for a guy. The best I have ever seen is
three. You say your honeymoon "such as it was". Was it not good?
Sounds like you can't complaing about the sex or can you. Maybe she
didn't enjoy it as much as you. As for sex in the evening and morning,
I have been there too, I like mornings best though.
When it comes to giving head, I talked to one of my girl friends on
this BBS and she gave me some hints. The actual fact is that my
present husband doesn't like it much so maybe the problem is more him
than me.        Kisses,  Sara

-> From: Walter
-> To:   Sara

You bet that six is quite a few for a guy!  If the truth were known, I thoght
that I'd never be able to have sex again when it was over.  What I ment by
the honeymoon being "such as it was" is that it was very short (a weekend)
and what the whole thing amounted to was getting married and having sex for
about 12 hours straight then going home.  As far as her not enjoying it as
much as I, well to be honest, I really couldn't say... she seemed to want to
make love (that weekend at least) and; she seemed to enjoy it.  But I wonder
if she was doing it because that was what was supposed to happen on a
honeymoon or if she was really getting into it.  It seemed as though our
marriage went down hill after that.  She'd find every excuse in the book not
to have sex... and I don't believe that it was me that she didn't want to
have sex with... she just didn't want to have sex period... Of course, when I
would get to the point of looking elsewhere, of course she would give in. 
But, when that happened it was more like "OK, do what you have to do and let
me sleep."  Im not the kind of person who will force himself on a woman, even
my wife... figure that if she doesn't want me... then that's the way it is. 
I figured that this whole thing would pass after a few months.  But it kept
on like that for years...  I'm real patient... sometimes too patient for my
own good.  I guess that by now, you think I'm a real stupid person to have
put up with it for all those years... I tend to agree.  But then again, I
honestly thought that she would see my side of things.  When it's all said and
done, I'm not sure if I'm any better off without her than with her... my sex
life is still nowhere and I spend my nights in a cold bed... on the positive
side, I do have the chance to go out and look, even tho I can't seem to find
the words to... oh well... my problem)... well, looks like I'm running out of
room... thanx for the kisses & same back, take care, Walter

Reply
Sounds like she was a real looser. What was she like other than in
bed? Maybe that is why you stuck with her for so long (how many
years?) I have a suggestion for you. Write to Susie456 on this board.
Please don't say who sent you, but come on strong, she might be the
one for you. Let me know what happens.     Sara


-> From: Walter
-> To:   Sara

Well, I don't know if "loser" is the right word... Let me tell you just a
little about my logic in staying with her for so long (19 years to be exact).
First, as I've mentioned, she was pregnant when we got married and; after
that one great night (our honeymoon) she just sort of turned off to sex.  At
the time I felt that it was because she was pregnant and very upset about it.
Kind of like she lost her youth and freedom all in one shot and I was the one
who stole it from her... anyway, I kept thinking that if I gave it time, the
whole situation would change and we'd have a normal married relationship (you
know, sex two or three times a week... a loving caring type of thing where
she wanted me just as much as I wanted her).  But, as it turned out, she made
almost every excuse in the book, except "I have a headache."  As I told you,
when I made noises like I was going to go elsewhere for sex... then she'd put
out... but it was like submission not love making... then she started gaining
weight... I think she figured that it would slow me down if not keep me away.
Well, as it turned out she was at least partialy right... when I got hooked
on Kathy I found out what it was like to really be wanted and (I have to be
honest) I found out about what being with a great looking, sexy woman was
like!  Sure the overweight turned me off after that... boy, did I keep my
distance... I didn't bother to even ask after that.  But, she does have her
really great side as a person and a partner.... we did lots of things
together and she's a great mom for the kids... I guess that for outward
things, she was a great wife but; as far as interpersonal things go, the
pits.  I just got to the point where my sex life was limited to masturbation
in the shower... anyway... that's the short version... and I've written to
Susie... but I didn't come on strong... that's just not my style.  Thanx for
the recomendation though... who knows, maybe she'll see something in my note.
Take care, hugz, Walter

Reply
Well so much for that marriage, I can understand where you are coming
from. Funny thing is that some heavy women are very sexy but thats not
a rule, just an observation. So tell me, what would you like to talk
about? I am open for any questions.   s

-> From: Walter
-> To:   Sara

Well, what do I want to talk about?  Let's see... you mentioned a while back
that you masturbate quite often... what's quite often.  For me, it gets down
to about once a day... usually before I drop off to sleep... I would think
that in your case, it would be somewhat less since you have a regular partner
to have sex with.  Also, do you use anything beside your finger when you do
it?  When I was with Kathy the subject never came up... But, when Peggy and I
were together, we talked about it often...  She was adamant that all she
needed for a good time on the spur of the moment was what God gave her.  She
liked to masturbate in front of me... it really turned us both on.  Well,
best be moving on... but, I want to tell you that I really don't have
anything against heavy women... in fact, as you said, I find some are very
attractive and sexy... but, my ex isn't just heavy.... No, No!  5' 4" and
230LBS goes way past heavy.... When a guy gets cramps in his hands holding
the flab apart while trying to get into a little heavy foreplay, well, that's
not a real pleasant experience... it isn't something that a person wants to
do over and over... well, enough of that!  Your friend Susie says that she
thinks we ought to get together... she's going to call me sometime this week.
I'll let you know how it works out! Take care, write soon...
                                                             Walter
Reply
Sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you, I have had a
really bad cold but I am doing pretty well now. As for masturbation,
probably once a week just depends on my mood. I mostly do it in the
shower and use a hand-held shower massage but I also do it with my
fingers in bed or with our vibrator. Its "ours" because we use it
together sometimes. I think its neat if someone feels relaxed enough
to masturbate in front of someone else like Peggy. Did you ever do it
for her?

-> From: Walter
-> To:   Sara

Long time.... nice to hear from you again.  Well, I guess that everyone has
their hang-ups.  I offered to masturbate with her or for her... and she said
no.  Just as simple as that.  No explainations, just "no!"  Never figured
that one out... she was the one who was sexualy liberated... I guess that
there was at least one place where she drew the line.  Well, there were
really two... she wasn't into pain and bondage, stuff like that.  By the by,
I've be coresponding with your friend Susie.  A different sort of lady, I
think that she's a bit of a tease (in fact she admits that herself).  I also
think that she talks a good line but that's about as far as she intends to
go with it.  But, her notes are fun and; what the hey, it's something to do! 
Well, here tis Saturday again... housework day!  So, best be running along. 
Good to see that you're healthy again and fun to get another of your notes. 
Take care and write soon,
                        HUGZ,
                            Walter

Reply
Its been so long that I don't remember when I was last on. Sometimes I
am just not in the mood for the BBS scene. How about you?   My love
live hasn't been to wonderful recently but thats par for the course. I
did indulge in some petting with someone other than my husband though.
It was really a thrill considering how little we actually did. We were
in the hot tub, had quite a few glasses of wine and my husband had to
run to the store for some things for dinner. Hal, the other guy,
stayed in the tub with me and after a while we were very close and he
started rubbing my back and worked his way around to the front. It was
nice but about that time my husband came home and that was the end of
that. What's been happening to you?

-> From: Walter
-> To:   Sara

Sorry to hear that your love life isn't all that it could be... but then
again, who's is?  I don't know how sensitive you are to stuff like this, but;
it turns out that your friend "Susie" is a guy...  To be real honest (my
biggest fault, too honest for my own good), I'm having some second thoughts
about you and who you really are... "Susie" left the board with a real
embarrassed note about the same time that you droped out of sight.  So, I
kinda put 2 & 2 together... Of course, that dosen't make it so... but, you
have to admit that it's a little fishy.  If you and "Susie" are one in the
same person... I've got a problem... after all, you and I have been pretty
frank with each other and that makes things a little embarassing... Then
again, if you aren't the same person... no harm done I guess.  What I'm
getting down to is, that before I started writing to "Susie" you and I had
some great conversation.  It was intimate and, I thought, very honest.  Now,
I'm not sure of who you are or what I can tell you.  Maybe it shouldn't
matter all that much.  After all, if I don't know who you are, I can think of
you any way that I want to.  But on the other hand, with a few exceptions,
I've never been taken seriously as a love partner by most females.  Most of
them just sort of chuckle at the prospect.  Now, I have some guy laughing at
me too... it's a bit much to take.  What it all gets down to is that I would
really like to know who you are... it would resolve a whole lot of problems
for me... I've really enjoyed your notes and, once again to be very honest,
I'm still looking forward to them... So, what say?  What do we do to resolve
this.  I know that it might create some problems for you and I don't want to
do that.  But, we're both adults and I know that I could handle it... after
all, I've spent most of my life in a "hands off" situation.  So that's
nothing new for me... Your thoughts?  Take care,
                                               Walter

Reply
Walter, I am really sorry to hear that Suzie turned out to be a guy. I had no
idea. Actually I got the name from someone else on the board and thats why I
didn't want you to say who it came from. As for me I am definitely not a guy.
I can understand if you would prefer to play it safe but in any case the
things you disussed with me will go no farther.     Sara

-> From: Walter
-> To:   Sara

Well... guess I'll take your word for it... no reason not to believe you.
Water under the bridge I suppose.  Better things to chat over than some idiot
out there playing the part of a sweet young thing with the hots for.... well,
enough of that... So, it sounds like you're a little more than tempted to
have a little affair... things that bad at home?  As usual, my love life
could use massive infusions of a feminine personae... Well, got to head off
to work... could be I'll write more later if I have time...
            Take care (and my appologies),
                                         Walter


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-> From: Sam
-> To:   Mary

We got married when we were around 20.  At the time we both liked a
lot of the same things, going Joecing, camping, snow skiing, etc. As
time when on I kept liking these things while she became more job
oriented and started going to school.  I guess what it comes down to
is that we didn't like the same things anymore.  We each had our own
circle of friends and kept getting farther apart.  It ended rather
peacefully. Sam

Reply
I know what you mean. That is pretty much the way it was with my first
marriage. We didn't end quite so peacfully though. I got involved with
another guy and decided to leave my husband. As you might expect it
didn't work out with the other guy but after a few years I met my
present husband and we have been very happy for over 5 years. I really
learned a lot about life and sex between marriages although I suppose
it would have been different if I knew then about aids. Sex is an
important part of my life and my husband really knows how to turn me
on.    Mary

-> From: Sam
-> To:   Mary

Sex also plays an important lifet my lifet although there is not
anyone special at this time.  As far as knowing how to turn someone
on, are you talking physically or mentally?  I think setting the stage
for seduction is every bit as important as sex itself.  The sharing of
a fantasy can be a lot of fun for both.

Reply
I do want to be turned on both mentally and physically. I would avoid
any situation where the mental part wasn't right so it gets down to
the physical part for the final note. I need lots of affection and
petting to get me going.     Mary

-> From: Sam
-> To:   Mary

The mental part for me is more sight and sound oriented. Soft music
and a sexy outfit will do it almost every time. Sometimes even a large
oversized men's shirt does wonders.  Sam

Reply
I love to dress sexy. Summer is on its way and thats my time. I have
nice breasts and like to let people know it. Maybe I am a bit of an
exhibitionist. It is a turn on to know guys are having a good look. My
husband loves it too because he gets the benefit of my excitment at
the appropriate moment.    Mary

-> From: Sam
-> To:   Mary

you sound like my kind of woman!!  One of my favorite fantasys is
being teased by a beautiful woman who likes to show a bit of the
naughty bits. maybe you can tell how you like to do this and I'll
share my thoughts on the subject with you. This could be fun!!  Sam

Reply
Basically I am into tank tops (so to speak). Without a bra I am a
pretty nice sight if I do say so myself. Also I have some blouses with
3/4 length sleves with a deep v in the arm. When I reach over to pick
something up it is quite revealing. My hips are a little big so not
much to do in that area but short skirts are back in so I may give
them a try this summer. So what would you have in mind for me? Mary

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-> From: Steve
-> To:   Mary

Sure would be nice if you and her were still in contact.  Just think,
what kind of fun you and her could enjoy now.  I sure wouldn't mind if
I had a lady who invited her girlfriend over to enjoy her sexually.
Tell me, what do you and another girl like to do together.  How do you
feel about licking a girl's pussy?  Do you enjoy group sex?  I know
I've enjoyed 3-somes with 2 girls or a girl and a guy.  It's fun to
have 2 people making love with you.  And fun to make love to a girl
with another person.  Have you enjoyed 2 guys before?  Or a girl and a
guy at the same time?  Wow, look at all those question Bills on this
letter.  Oh well...  Didn't you and this girl kiss together?  I love
seeing girls kiss, especially deep tongue kissing.  Have you been
talking with any other bi girls on this bbs?  You know what I'd really
like... to find a single girl (so maybe I could marry her) who's bi
and wants a guy who likes that, so she could still make love to her
girlfriend(s) now and then, especially if she enjoys me seeing her
naked with a girl and enjoying another female.  Ummmmmmm. I enjoy
being nude, how about you?  Wish more women were open to girl-girl
loving.  Steve

-> From: Steve
-> To:   Mary

Say Mary... tell me what you think.  Check my questionaire, and give
me your reactions.  Would you suggest any changes that could attract a
women, (i.e. are there any answers I chose that might turn a woman
off?).

Reply
Licking another woman's pussy is probably the more important part of
woman to woman sex. I haven't done it much but I do like it. I like to
give her pleasure and when she comes it brings me very close too. I
have never done it with two other people. Its kind of interesting to
think about but I am not sure I would want to do it. Kissing another
woman is great, I have probably done more of that than anything. Yes,
I love to be nude. I have met quite a few bi women on this BBS. You
sure were full of questions but thats okay. You come on pretty strong,
have you ever made it with anyone you have met on a BBS?

-> From: Steve
-> To:   Mary

Sorry, if I came on preety strong, as you said.  Yes, I have mad it
with a girl I met on a BBS.  I think it's great that you do like
licking another woman's pussy.  Get's me hot thinking about it.  I
think I love licking a woman's pussy even more than fucking.  Hard to
believe?  Well, I really enjoy it.  Ummmm, I'm glad you love to be
nude.  So, you have met quite a few bi women from here.  Any luck,
making out with them?  (if you don't mind me asking).  I still want to
have a bi girl for my own.  I'd love to have her know she can enjoy
her bisexuality with my support.  Don't you wish your mate understood
that, and then you could make love with a women at home, knowing he
loves you for it?  Ummmmm.  Mary, I'm not that forward in person, just
when I write to you, I'm in a horny mood, and you know I can write
with an imagination.  Plus, I'm turned on to your bi sexual desires.
You know, if you helped me find a bi girlfriend, you know I'd love for
you to be lovers with her, and make love to her when you and she need
it together.  Would love for you and her to be sitting around naked,
and enjoying each other's company.  I'd love to share her with you.
Keep me in mind, in case you meet a nice bi girl who would love to
have a guy like me.  Write soon,  Steve

Reply
No problem with you coming on strong, just that I will be keeping my
distance, I am sure you understand. Yes I can believe you like licking
a woman as much as fucking her, it feels good to give pleasure. I have
met some bi women here, about 2 or 3 but I don't want to start a
physical relation with anyone else. My husband is enough for me, I
will leave the rest to fantasy. There is a lot more to life that sex,
but then I don't have to tell you that. In fact sometimes I think the
best part of sex is thinking about it, sort of like the worst part of
going to the dentist. Hows that for a comparison?

-> From: Steve
-> To:   Mary

Well, so you wouldn't have a physical relationship with a girl?  You
said you met 2 or 3....  Does your hubby know you like girls too?
Should you talk with or meet a girl who's bi and open to meeting a
nice guy, feel free to tell her about me, and/or let me know her
address code, and perhaps we can have a 3-way conversation. Steve p.s.
I also like watching a lady play with herself... I assume you enjoy
that, how about telling me some of your fantasies.

Reply
No, my husband doesn't know about my thoughts of other women, he would
be quite upset if he did. That is at least part of the reason why I
don't want to get involved. Yes, I do enjoy doing my self some times.
Seems like a stronger orgasm that way. As for fantasies I like to
think about hearing other people make love.....


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-> From: Joe
-> To:   Mary

Yes, I was invited out to there home in Pittsburg and we continued our
little sessions there. Elise loved to be fucked and have her toes
sucked at the same time. No John wasn't gay he was bi-sexual and loved
to suck me off while Elise watched and commanded him to do things.
they were in to slave-master routine and she loved to control us
both.mostly John. I watched as she made him obey different commands.
He did not like to she Elise being fucked another man so she made him
watch. It was great....

Reply
I guess I am not really into the slave/master stuff. I like to be a
loved equal but as they say, whatever turns you on. When did John get
off, sounds like it was just you and Elise? I don't think I would like
my husband watching if I was making it with another guy. That doesn't
quite correlate with my willingness to be watched in general. I am a
bit of an exhibitionist but some things just don't feel good.

-> From: Joe
-> To:   Mary

Elise loved to make John perform for her she ordered him to suck me
off and she would try ti humiliate him. As I was screwing her she
would say to him " Joe is so big and good he's so musch better than
you" The more she did this thee more John wanted her. After hours of
tormenting John would be so excited that he would literallyy rape her
and as he banged away she'd have terrific orgasms. She love to make
him suck me off.

Reply
That really sounds wild, she sure was in charge. Do you like to have
another guy suck you off, are you bi? I find that it is tenderness and
oral sex that makes me come the most. It would be interesting to watch
someone else and I have heard other people doing it which does turn me
on. Actually I think the sound of sex, mine or others is very
exciting.     Mary

-> From: Joe
-> To:   Mary

I'm not really bi but in a situation like a threesome I don't mind
having a guy suck me off. I have never been one on one but like I said
I had had threesomes with the guy sucking me off. Yes I like to watch
other people having sex and at the same time having sez as well. that
is why group sex is so great. I love oral sex both in giving and
recieving. Do you like giving head or getting eaten?

Reply
Oral sex? I like it all although I would rather have the guy come in
my vagina than in my mouth. I know the guys don't always agree
including my husband so some times when he has given me multiple
orgasms by eating me I will return the favor and do him all the way
with my mouth. I think most women would agree that the best part of
sex is having the man inside, you just cant get any closer. Have you
ever made it with anyone you met on a BBS?

-> From: Joe
-> To:   Mary

Yes, I agree  cumming insde of a hot vagina is by far the best. Yes I
have made it with two people from BBS'.The first was a girl from the
BBS in Sunnyvale. After a few notes on the BBS/ I left my phone number
and she called,(This was while I was seprated from my wife). We met at
the Hyatt on First street. She was a bit overwieght but I was
expecting that. She was living with someone else and we had to meet
away from her place. We had a few drinks and proceeded to get
acqauinted. When I walked her to her car and started to kiss her good
night she good hot and excited. I began rubbing her tits and before
long was fingering her in the parking lot. She came and she had to get
back home so we agreed to meet later in the week.....Would you like to
hear the rest ???

Reply
Sounds interesting. Yes I would like to hear more.     Mary

-> From: Joe
-> To:   Mary

There were other times that I got together with couples and it always
was great. I met a couple one night at a local pub. They were a bit
older than the average couples and as the night wore on Jack had a few
to many and Martha knew it. Finally araound midnight she asked if I
could drive them home. I did and we carried Jack up the stairs. It
didn't take long for Martha to come on. She went into the bedroom and
as Jack lay passed out on the couch she came back into the room in
only her panties . I got the message and we layed on the floor next to
Jack. I sucked her nipples and fingered her getting her hot. Then
pulling her panties off I undressed and raising her legs unto my
shoulders I shoved my cock into her,"It's been so long" she moaned as
I buried my hard cock up to the hilt and begin banging away. It
continued for quite sometime. Finally we both came and when it was
over and we were laying naked next to Jack I asked her why she fucked
by her husband she said it excited her to cheat right next to him.

Reply
That was rather strange. Was it really cheating? Sounds like he would
have been part of it if he wasn't out. On the other hand what if he
had woke up? I find your stories great, don't stop.    Mary


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-> From: Bill
-> To:   Mary

Mary:
I had another thing I was curious about, but if it is too personal,
then you don't have to answer it.  I saw that you mentioned that you
have had a homosexual experience.  I'd be willing to bet, based upon
the large number of women on this system who categorize themselves as
being "bi" that many more heterosexual women have experienced some
interactions with another woman, than heterosexual men have with
another man.  Would you agree?  If so, have you any ideas as to why
this might be?  In your case, how did it come about, and what thoughts
went through your mind? -Bill

Reply
I really cant comment on your ideas but I can tell you about my first
time. The first time I did it with another woman was in college. It
was with my roommate. We were both sexually active with guys and both
hit an emotional low at the same time. Along with our natural
curiosity it just seemed like a way to comfort each other. It was one
of those cold winter nights (well it doesn't get all that cold in
Berkeley but it seemed that way). We went to bed together and held
each other close. All we really did was finger each other to orgasm
but it was awful nice at the time. Considering the guys I had done it
with it was really one of the best orgasms I had had. It makes me feel
kind of warm to look back on it. I haven't seen her in years, its a
shame to loose close friends like that.


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-> From: Cindy
-> To:   Mary

That's interesting, my first experience was with my first college
roommate too.  I went to school at the University of Florida.  It gets
extremely hot there at night (no change from the days) and it was
common for me, my roommate, and some of the other girls on the floor
to run around in just our panties.  Before coed dorms....  Anyway, one
night we had been sitting around getting high before going to bed and
were just absolutely fried when we hit the pillows.  I was just laying
there drifting, feeling horny, when I heard this kind of wet, slurpy
sound that sounded familiar.  I looked over in the moonlight and
Joanne was playing with herself.  I surprised my self with a tingle
that started in my clit & spread... I was both slightly shocked and
relieved when she whispered well, what are you waiting for?  Needing
no further urging, I followed suit and we both came quickly.  She came
over to my bed, kissed me, and then proceeded to work me over from
head to toe.  I came so many times I got incoherent and have loved
doing it with ladies ever since.  The next day Joanne explained that
she'd been horny for me since the first day of school & she just
couldn't resist.  So, we got together frequently for the next 4 years
for some real wild times, but those are other stories... Cindy

Reply
Sounds like you had some great times with Joanne. I really love it
when the other person comes (man or woman) its such a turn-on for me.
My roommate and I use to masturbate and watch each other come but it
is a lot more fun to do it to the other person. And I do love multiple
orgasms for me which I have only done when a guy eats me. Somehow the
few times I have done it with other women we each only came once. How
long have you been out of school? For me its been a long time and I
have had only a few experiences with women since then. Being happily
married and sexually satisfied helps but I do think of the "good old
days" sometimes. Fortunately my husband is a good lover so sex is
nearly always satisfying. Even so I do it to myself sometimes. I
really enjoy your messages.   Mary

-> From: Cindy
-> To:   Mary

I agree, it's a real turn on to watch another person come.  That's one
of the things I like best about sucking a man's cock.  Sometimes I
like to deep throat it and swallow his cum, but most of the time I
like to pull my head back just at the right time and watch the jizz
explode from his cock.  There have been times when just seeing that
has made me come myself.  Once, I made love to a guy who hadn't had
any in six months (or so he said) and you could actually hear him
squirt.  I thought I was going to drown...  At the moment, my sex life
is rather limited.  I'm between men (and probably will be for a while,
I'm burned out on the single scene.) and I have a couple of girl
friends that I get together with occasionally for a little idle
recreation. So, I have my hands, shower massage, and latex toys for
company and we all get along quite well.  I'm glad you're happy with
your husband in bed, most of my married girlfriends aren't.  They say
that they've seemed to lose interest over the years.  You said that
you & your husband have done some interesting (I think that was the
word) things over time.  Being the voyeur that I am, like what?
Anyway, keep in touch.  I like "talking" to you too. Cindy

Reply
I don't know about six months, seems like a long time to go without
sex. But I do know that if I haven't had it for a few days it seems to
be easier to have an orgasm. As for loosing interest over the years, I
will have to admit we don't do it as often, probably about twice a
week but since it is good, I have no complaints. Lets
see...interesting things, well I guess we haven't really done aything
all that unusual. Different places in the house, I like in front of
the fire the best but that isn't unusual at all. We once did it on the
bathroom vanity. I had just taken a shower and he came in naked,
backed me up to the vanity and started necking. After a bit of petting
I was pretty wet and he sat me on the vanity and put his lovely cock
inside me. He was standing and I was sitting. I really didn't think I
could come that way but surprise, it was great. About being a voyeur,
me too. I like to hear the sounds others make when they are doing it.
I have never seen but I have heard. How about you, have you ever seen
or heard others having sex?    Mary


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-> From: Ronda
-> To:   Mary

Hi Mary,
Sorry it took me a while to get back in touch with you.  No I don't
mind talking about my swinging.  My husband and I got started several
years back after we both realized that we had a very strong
relationship but found that we still were physically attracted to
other people.  We love each other very much and keep our relationship
very honest.  We tell each other what is going on and don't sneak
around behind each other's back.  As far as the friends that we swing
with, they are all good friends but I haven't meet anyone who would
want me to leave my husband.  We are both extremely selective since
you can't tell where someone has been nowadays.  It never just a quick
pickup and most the time my husband does most of the introducing.
There is something that I like very much but you might think that I am
crazy for liking this but I find it an incredible turn-on to make love
to my husband after he has made love to another woman.  I like to see
him satisfied and then see if I can completely wipe him out. I find it
very arrousing to smell and taste another woman on his body.  This may
have something to do with the fact that I am bisexual and I have
smelled and tasted other women before I ever made love with them.  I
also get very turned on by hearing my husbands stories of what the
other women did. So much for me, tell me about your daydreams.  Do you
have a current lover.  What turns you on AND what turns you off?

        take care,
        Ronda

Reply
No, I don't think you are crazy. In fact I find it rather interesting
that you like to smell other women on your husband. I suppose it is
the opposite of smelling some strange perfume and wondering what your
husband has been up to. This way you know and approve. Do you watch
him making it with another woman and does he see you doing it with the
other guy? Whats it like making it with more than one guy in an
evening, do you have an orgasm with both of them? I would really be
interested in hearing more of the details if you don't mind sharing.
As for me, I am happily married with a pretty darn good sex life but I
do think about doing it with other women. I have had some experiences
in the past, not a lot, but enough to give me some good memories. Even
with my good sex life my daydreams about other women get me in the
mood to masturbate so I do that sometimes. Do you ever find the need
to do yourself? I guess my biggest turn on is oral sex, I can and do
have multiple orgasms when a guy eats me. I have had anal sex a few
times but I really have to be hot to be willing to do it. As for turn
offs, any kind of rough or sadistic activity really makes me mad. I
like to be treated like a wanted and loved person. Mary


-> From: Ronda
-> To:   Mary

I am glad that you don't think I am crazy.  As for us watching each
other we have both watched each other do it with other people.  I have
made love to my husband and another man at the same time.  Sometimes
one inside me while I suck the other one and sometimes with one in my
pussy and the other in my butt.  I am amazed that you like anal sex.
Sometimes I thought I might be the only woman that likes it.  I love
the feel of two men squirting  into me. You must try it sometime.  I
have also made it with a girlfriend in front of a group of men and
women.  Not a lot of people just six or seven of our friends.  I love
to do it with a double-headed dildo with a friend of mine. As for
having multiple orgasms, yes, I have them most of the time but not
always.  I also like to wear very sexy and feminine clothes Several
years back I got into stockings and garter belts which I wear quite
often.  I also masturbate quite a bit when I am alone.  Can you tell
me more about your fantasies?  Have you ever made love to another man
than your husband? Or just considered it?  Do you fell like telling me
about your experiences with other women? Ronda

Reply
I guess my experiences are quite limited compared to yours. I have
only done it with other women a few times and never been involved with
a threesome. I can see where two men inside you at the same time would
be good. Its such a wonderful feeling when a man is inside me and when
I am turned on enough for anal sex I am so wild that I would love to
have two of them. Its not exactly clear to me how you do that
physically but if there is a will there is a way. As for anal sex I
have only done a very few times, I really have to be in the right
mood. My husband is a very considerate lover and not pushy (except in
the right way) so it works out okay. I too like to wear sexy clothes,
I particularly like going braless in the warm summer days so the guys
look at me. This turns on my husband too and makes for some really
good sex. I have never made love to a man other than my husband while
I was married but I had quite a bit of experience between marriages,
with a couple of women too. I guess many of my fantasies are doing it
with other women which I think about when I masturbate. I would like
to hear more about your ideas and experiences too.    Mary


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-> From: Carla
-> To:   Mary

Sure, I'll talk to you about my life.  In fact, Mistress often has me
tell others of my life as her total slave. She thrives on humiliating
me, and i'm always oh so much better for it. This week-end as a matter
of fact, i spent a lot of time tied in one way or another on a semi-
secluded section of beach at Pismo.  It wasn't secluded enough for me
, as i was spotted by at least 6 people, who were totally blown away
when i admitted to them that i was in that predicament of my own free
will, as  Mistress offered them my exposed parts for their inspection.
Mistress is always open to new ways to "torture" me also. That's a
large part of why she has me on this system.


Reply
Wow! Torture, I hope it is something you are happy with. I think I
know where Pismo Beach is. Do you live near there? I like to get a tan
all over but I mostly do it in our back yard. What kind of people saw
you there?   Mary

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-> From: Karen
-> To:   Mary
Hi Mary,
I hope everything turns out o'kay for this weekend.  Making love by the
fireplace is very romantic.  Most of the men usually like to go down on me
first before they start screwing.  Occaisionally I run into the
wham-bam-thank-you maam type, but I never let them do it again.  I like to
have him serve me for one night and then I recipercate the next night.  I luv
to give him a good blow job, usually bringing him close to an orgasm, but not
quite, two or three times before I swallow his cum.  Sometimes he'll get
angry, but I quiet him down and start from the beginning.  Talk to you later.
Karen

Response...
Well doing it by the fireplace worked out real well. It wasn't the
greatest fire place, gas and one real log, but the sex was the best we
have had for a long time. He really did a fine job of eating me, I
came twice and they were good. Then when he was in me I came again
which is unusual for me. You know, water beds are nice for the comfort
but the hard floor is better for a man to really get into you and fill
you up. For some reason my husband doesn't seem to like me to blow
him. Maybe I am not doing it right but the few times I did it with
guys before seemed to be okay. Perhaps I am too rough for him or else
he thinks there is something wrong with doing it. Sounds like you have
pretty good control of your sex life. Do you find guys willing to do
things your way?

-> From: Karen
-> To:   Mary
-> Sent: 16 hours ago.
-> Re: Reply to letter, sent: 3 days ago.

HI Mary,
GLAD TO HEAR YOUR TRIP WENT WELL.  I'VE HAD TROUBLE WITH BLOWJOBS TOO, THAT
IS, UNTIL MY GOOD FRIEND LORI TAUGHT ME.  APPARENTLY THE TRICK IS TO RELAX
YOUR THROAT AND JAWS.  THE MORE RELAXED YOU ARE, THE WIDER YOUR MOUTH WILL
OPEN.  THE FIRST TIME I DID IT TO A GUY, I REMEMBER HIM SCREAMING BECAUSE MY
TEETH HAD RAKED HIS COCK.  WHAT I DID WAS LEARN TO USE MY LIPS TO COVER MY
TEETH AND DEEP THROAT COCKS DOWN MY THROAT.  IT REALLY TURNS A GUY ON IF YOU
CAN GET HIS COCK ALL THE WAY DOWN, WHILE LICKING HIS BALLS AT THE SAME TIME.
YOU MIGHT WANT TO PRACTICE ON A DILDO OR CUCUMBER FIRST.  IF YOU DON'T GET
USED TO THAT FEELING, YOU MIGHT BARF UP!  I'VE LEARNED HOW TO GET AHOLD OF MY
LIFE WITH GUYS EARLY ON, OTHERWISE THEY WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOU REAL FAST.
IF I WANT THEM TO LICK OR EAT ME, I TELL THEM.  I'M NOT BEING SELFISH OR
EGOTISTICAL, BECAUSE IF THEY WANT ME TO EAT THEM OR SWALLOW, I'LL DO IT.  THE
GUYS I ESPECIALLY LIKE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE CONSIDERATE OF ME.  I'LL DO
EVERYTHING AND HOPEFULLY MORE TO TREAT THEM LIKEWISE.  IF THEY TREAT ME LIKE
A LADY, I'LL TREAT THEM LIKE A MAN.  HOPE YOUR RELATIONSHIP LASTS A LONG TIME
FOR YOU.


Reply
Thanks for the tips. Its kind of funny that after all these years I am
still learning about sex. I don't think I have swallowed a man's come
more than once or twice, can't say it was one of the most fun things.
Do you enjoy it or just do it as an "exchange"? As for considerate
guys, those are the only ones I want to have anything to do with. And
I mean mostly on a personal level since that is really the largest
part of a relationship. I will have to admit my husband isn't the most
considerate when it comes to sex but the rest of the time is fine so I
put up with the sex part. Maybe if I could learn to give him oral sex
better it would help. I am really going to try your suggested
practice. I have actually used a cucumber on myself but never thought
of it as a "practice" tool.

-> From: Karen
-> To:   Mary
-> Sent: 4 days ago.
-> Re: Reply to letter, sent: 6 days ago.

Hi Mary, you know, you don't have to stop with the cucumber.  I have this
huge 12" dildo I love to suck.  Keep in mind that the most important thing is
to relax the jaw muscles, to open as wide as possible.  As far as the cum is
concerned, it's sort of like coffee:  You have to develop a taste for it.
After a while you just can't get by without it!!!  Let me know how the
cucumber fit!

Reply
Sure is a funny way to eat a cucumber. Since the cucumber won't tell
me how it feels I don't know if I did any good or not. I did push it
way in though and I can see where a little practice would make it
easier to take it in deeper. I have swallowed cum once, it wasn't too
bad, that isn't the problem, its doing it so he really likes it. My
period is coming soon and I seem to be more sexy because of it. Maybe
I will get a chance to put practice into action. Have you ever done it
while you had your period?

-> From: Karen
-> To:   Mary
-> Sent: 30 hours ago.

Hi Mary, this is actually Karen, but I lost my password when my
girlfriend was messing around with it.  Hope everything is going good with
your husband and all.  I met this really nice guy Sunday at Washington Park
in Sunnyvale.  His name is Ben and he is about 6'4".  I never been out with a
black man before, but he is a real gentleman, not to mention a real stud!!!
Gotta go, talk to you soon, Karen

Reply
A black man, that could be interesting. I would love to hear all the
details. Is your girlfriend that was "messing with your password" also
on this system? They say you should use a different password on each
system. God I am sexy today, hoping for some good sex this weekend.

-> From: Karen
-> To:   Mary
-> Sent: 34 hours ago.
-> Re: Reply to letter, sent: 5 days ago.

I guess I was a fool to let my girlfriend use my account, as she even changed
some of my answers on my questionnaire, but she paid for it.  I tied her up
spread-eagled in bed while she was sleeping, so she ended up that way all
weekend.  Actually I was a little nice, tickling her toes and licking her
thighs until she started cuming, but such is life, right?  Anyway, this black
guy really turned out to be quite a gentleman, as he treated me like a lady
in public, but once he was in the bedroom that was something else.  For
starters, his cock is over 11" long and at least 3" in diameter.  I have
never, ever seen anything like it before.  Trying to get it down my throat
took more than 30 minutes, but I did.  Having that thing pumped in my pussy
was an experice!  The most surprising thing happened when he came in my
mouth.  I thought he would never stop.  At least two loads I swallowed, and
he still had some to put on my face, neck and tits!  The best part was when
he "forced" me to clean his tool up with my tongue, god it was fun!  Anyway,
it seems that you and your husband are getting along better since your
Monterey trip.  Tell me about your weekend, hope it was nice.

Reply
So you are into bondage, I have never done it, not sure I would like
it. Did she actually cum with just her thighs being tickled? Glad you
enjoyed the black guy, I find some are sexy looking but most turn me
off. I would love to have my vagina filled like that. As for our
weekend, it was great. We stayed in a bed-and-breakfast place and made
loud love at about 5AM. I am sure some of the other guests must have
heard us, I can really get noisy when I cum, particularly if it is
more than once. It was three times, wow! You never told me if you find
you are more sexy when you have your period, it sure is my hottest
time.    Mary