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Feminine Discipline Forum (advice)
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More Advice to J
I thoroughly agree with all the advice posted to date. Your decorum in the
local taproom was inappropriate and un-called for. Nevertheless, it is not
uncommon for any woman -- no matter how well disciplined -- to feel the
urge to 'flirt'. The issue at hand is how you should willingly admit to
this behavior and earnestly desire your correction.
Much has been written about your building a determination to accept an
appropriate correction from your husband. Let me share my viewpoint. I
believe that your behavior is that of a lady who wants to be 'noticed' --
who wants to aggrevate your husband. Your reason is not obvious, but it
could well be to provoke him to the point of giving you a punishment far
beyond any 'love-tap' spanking received to date.
Some writers have suggested the Wildfire School Cane. This is a good choice
as it is far more 'severe' than you have obviously experienced before.
Still, as a regular recipient of the Victorian Birch, let me give you an
alternative.... Find the Wildfire's fine publication on the Birch. Read
about its use over the years in punishment scenarios from the school to the
home. Take its advice and create your own "instrument'.
Then meet your husband at the door without prior notice. Tell him you have
been behaving in a most inappropriate manner. Explain than only a
significant disciplinary experience can ensure your return to the straight
and narrow. Then lead him to the bedroom (or other private quarters) and
present him with the birch rod you made. Explain that your absolutely need
to learn true discipline and that you desire him to give you one dozen
stokes.
Here is where the True Discipline begins. You must lift your skirt, bend
(grabbing a chair, table, or other fixture with which to steady yourself),
and 'present' yourself for your birching. Other members have spoken of cold
showers, physical exercise, icy swims...I guarantee that NOTHING will
enhance your discipline or build the positive attitude that typifies a
Wildfire Girl like one dozen sizzling strokes of a self-made birch. Believe
One Who Knows!!!!
ANON
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Training Oneself to Obedience
I was sorry to hear that Dana is having some problems. Recently she wrote:
My first question for Danielle: I there any advice she can give
me on things I can do to train myself to become more cooperative
when my husband has decided I need a spanking? Anything from
adjusting my attitude towards him to what I'm wearing when he
gets home?
It was kind of you to ask my advice, Dana, and I shall help as much as I
can. You have already made a good start by recognising that it is the duty
of a feminine and obedient wife to be cooperative when the need for
punishment arises, and that you seem to be lacking in the self-discipline
needed to fulfil this duty properly. I don't think that "what you are
wearing when he gets home" has much bearing on the problem. I hope and
trust that you will invariably be dressed precisely as he wishes (if you do
not, I am not surprised that you get punished so often - you deserve it!).
You mention that "I sometimes try to resist him taking me over his lap or
make it difficult for him to lift my skirt or remove my jeans". As you
correctly say, Dana, this is quite wrong of you, and in order to improve
you need to develop more self-discipline.
Firstly, I should describe the present procedure in our household. Firstly,
when my husband decides that I need to be corrected, I smile so that he
knows that I recognise the justice of his decision, and ask him what
implement is to be used (most commonly a Wildfire punishment cane in our
house). I go eagerly to fetch the chosen instrument, and give it to him,
again with a smile. I then adopt an appropriate position myself, rather
than waiting for him to impose it on me. I normally either touch my toes
(in the middle of the room so there is nothing to hold on to), or stand
with arms raised against a wall. The question of his "removing my jeans"
could never arise, because I never wear jeans, which I consider to be very
unfeminine. Most commonly I will be wearing a short skirt. If I am wearing
a microskirt, there is no need to remove it, because when I bend double
because it rides up nicely to expose the target. Otherwise I lift my skirt
myself, trying always to look enthusiastic and willing. During the
punishment I use all my self-discipline and training to try to avoid crying
out or otherwise grumbling (not always successfully, it must be said). Most
important of all, when it is finished, I throw my arms round him, and thank
him gratefully and sincerely. Then I dress myself properly and returning
the cane to its proper place.
I think that there are two possible approaches to your problem. The first
is for you to be subjected to stricter discipline. The second (and better)
is for you to develop better self-discipline.
The first approach would be for your husband to cure your problem for you.
You mention that, if you are uncooperative, he may double your punishment
(quite rightly in my view). But this is evidently not enough to achieve
what you desire so you could ask him to triple it, or quadruple it, until
your behavior improves. In addition, if you persist in being uncooperative,
it is obvious that spanking is not enough, and your husband should switch
to a good cane, applied hard. He is obviously being too lenient with you.
If your main emphasis is on improving your obedience, this may be the best
approach.
The second approach is for you to improve your own self-discipline so that
you can make yourself behave as you should. This is the very problem that
we have been discussing recently, and I am still hoping that it may be
possible to devise some sort of training course that would help women in
your position to develop better self-discipline, but until that happens, I
shall just have to try to make suggestions by mail. You could start by
trying the following regime.
(1) Rise early (aim for 5 am, or even earlier).
(2) Put on your make up and dress in a short tennis dress or gym skirt,
that makes you look and feel both feminine and athletic at the same time.
(3) Do some physical exercises, gradually making them longer and harder, to
build your self discipline. Try not to give up too easily.
(4) Then take a shower (many people find that a cold shower helps their
self-discipline) and dress properly, in really attractive feminine clothes.
That means definitely no jeans or sloppy sweaters!
(5) Next do as many hours of menial and repetitive work as you can manage
-things like scrubbing floors, ironing and so on. The longer and harder the
jobs, the more your self-discipline is built up. You may want to dress in a
smart maid's uniform for this work, to emphasise your humility (that is
what I do myself).
(6) In addition, as you improve, you may find it beneficial to undertake
some more advanced training, based on more feminine versions of the sort
things that are used to teach men good discipline in the military. The sort
of things that are so good for men (assault courses, boxing etc) are not
suitable for women, but there are plenty of more feminine things that women
can do, which are just as effective. Here are a few examples of the sort
that I find useful.
(a) Get your husband to give you arbitrary orders (the sillier the better),
and to ensure that you obey them to the letter -for example, he might tell
you to cut the entire lawn with a pair of nail scissors, or to polish a ton
of coal, piece by piece. The sillier the task, the more it will improve
your self-discipline.
(b) Stand on a stool, facing the corner of a darkened room. Stay absolutely
still for as long as you can manage, reminding yourself continuously that
every hour you stay there is helping your self-discipline enormously.
(c) Teach yourself to bear discomfort, cold and pain bravely. This will
develop your self-discipline and help you to take your punishments meekly,
but bravely, as a good wife should. If I knew you it would be easy to make
specific recommendations as to how you should go about this, but since I
don't know you I'm afraid that it is quite impossible to give specific
advice, because what is appropriate and helpful for one woman is not always
right for another. Personally I find that my self-discipline is helped
enormously by making myself go out on a winter day wearing just a thin open
blouse, and by making myself swim in our local lake in midwinter. This
certainly takes a lot of will power, but I can't say whether it would help
you as much as it undoubtedly helps me.
(7) Once you have reached an advanced stage of self-discipline you can do
these jobs unsupervised. But until you reach this stage you will get much
more from them if you are strictly supervised. In that case get your
husband, or a sympathetic woman-friend, to set you firm targets for your
exercise your house-work and your obedience tests, and to make sure (by
appropriate application of a cane) that always reach your targets.
These measures would make a good start, and if you work hard at them I
think you will find it becomes easier to accept well-deserved punishment
with good grace, and eventually to welcome it. I still regularly train
myself in this way, to make sure that my self-discipline is maintained.
Despite my good fortune in learning good self-discipline at school, and
during my time in the Forces, I still find it desirable to work
continuously to maintain and develop it.
Dana's letter just serves to emphasize further the demand that exists for
some form of strict civilian training designed specifically for women,
aimed at improving their self-discipline and their discipline. I am still
hoping that it might be possible to run such a course, if enough women are
interested.
With love
DANIELLE
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J and her Husband
I wish I could speak directly to J's husband but since that is not possible
I can only urge her to make it clear to him that it his choice as to
whether he wants to keep her in line or not. Encouraging another man in any
way that goes beyond a little playful flirting threatens a marriage and
should be dealt with very firmly.
As I have said in earlier letters to Wildfire, I get a few spankings a
year, and they are over my husband's knee and most of the time given with
his hand only. (Believe me, it is quite enough.) Once, when I flirted in a
way that was not quite innocent, was one of the few occasions when he used
a strap to supplement his hand. At the time I thought it was a bit too
severe but I really "got the message".
J, you had better tell your husband very clearly where things stand. Feel
free to show him my letter.
Best wishes.
TESS
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Advice for J
First I agree 100% with your conclusion that husbands regularly giving
disciplinary spankings to there wives (and not visa versa) keeps marriages
together (see my posting in archive23).
Second, I don't mean to intrude but I think you need to be honest with your
husband and tell him that your really sorry for what you did but your also
really afraid that it could happen again unless he severely disciplines you
right away. Plus it will demonstrate to you that he really cares about you
and your marriage which I think is really important. That may mean giving
you a severe caning or spanking over your panties right then but it sounds
to me that you need more than that. I know because I have crossed the line
with other men before (not to mention other naughty behavior) so I know how
difficult it can be. But I've been much better behaved lately because my
husband has been giving me thorough spankings every week for the last 2-3
months, whether I've been naughty or not, and will continue to do so until
he feels he can trust me to behave like a proper wife should. As you can
expect I dreaded the idea at first but as he is head of the household I
knew he had every right to do so and today I can honestly say that my
behavior has improved and I think you'll find that your behavior will
improve also.
So I suggest you tell your husband honestly that you need a thorough
spanking right away and also immediately after any other naughty behavior
(not just a pat on the cheek) and then ask him to consider setting up a
weekly discipline night for the next few months until you both feel you
won't be tempted to look outside the marriage.
I hope you don't mind me intruding like this and that you find this
helpful.
DANA
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Perplexed Wife Ready to Roam
Two weeks ago Sunday my behavior was as dissolute and indecorous as it has
ever been. As you read on, please keep in mind that I am a spirited and
independent girl. Two weeks ago, while my husband was at work, I decided to
venture to the neighborhood "establishment." I had been working very hard
all week and simply wished for a brief distraction. While there, a very
handsome gentleman engaged my company. We only talked and sipped our
drinks. Later, though, this gentleman was bold enough to slip me his number
and steal a glancing kiss before I left.
When I arrived home, my husband was already there. He said nothing that
evening. The next afternoon, however, when I arrived home from work, he met
me at the door and said very simply: "If you ever do anything like that
again, I'll beat you with a stick" (I have been turned over my husband's
knee in the distant past). The only thing I could think was: IF? IF I ever
do anything like that again!?! You're virtually guranteeing that I WILL do
it again if you don't do a good bit more than warm my panties RIGHT NOW
with a good bit more than a stick! As well, ladies, my transgressions since
then have been fairly minor but frequent. My husband has simply smiled and
smacked my cheek (wrong one!) for being such a silly girl. And that is my
current dilemma.
And there is one more caveat to this story: The handsome gentleman at the
taproom assured me that under NO circumstances would he allow the type of
behavior that I was currently displaying without severe consequence (what
he actually said was: "If you were my wife, I'd take you over my knee").
In reflecting upon these events for the past two weeks, I have come to this
conclusion: Disciplinary spankings (and otherwise!) can and probably do
keep marriages together, for I'm certain that I'll have an affair with my
handsome gentleman or someone like him if my husband doesn't see to his
business...and soon.
Advice?
Sincerely,
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We are shocked and certainly think it high time your husband took you in
hand. If the sort of "stick" he has in mind is actually a traditional
school cane, we feel you may learn to treat it less lightly than you do at
present, and also to behave better. Let us hope your husband will act
before it is too late.
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