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Celestial Reviews 239 - December 3, 1997

Note: One element of story writing that you don't notice is the proofreading
that goes into the final product.  Many people proofread their own work or
have friends help them.  In addition, I coordinate a free (honestly - free)
proofreading service.  The proofreaders often help iron out grammar and style
problems that may be invisible to the authors, and in addition they
frequently offer suggestions about the storyline.  Although some authors have
had trouble communicating with their proofreaders, in most cases both the
proofreaders and the authors enjoy this cooperative effort.

It is NOT an admission of inferiority to accept proofreading help.  I
personally use this service, and I am certain that some of the finest authors
on this newsgroup do so as well.

I would like to thank the people who have volunteered to proofread these
stories.  In addition, I want to remind all of you of the existence of this
service.  If you either (a) need help with your writing or (b) want to help
someone else, let me know.

Second note: I have not recently posted the Celestial List of Credulous
Assumptions.  As I was reviewing one of the stories this week, I noticed
assumptions 3, 6, 8, 23, and 29 all within the same story.  So I thought I
had better repeat this list:

1.  It is usually possible for a woman to estimate the size of a man's fully
engorged cock by gazing at his crotch when he is unaroused and fully dressed
and over ten yards/meters away.

2.  Without the use of scientific instruments men can easily estimate the
size of women's breasts from across the room, even if the woman is fully
dressed.  {Actually, this is no big deal, since nearly all attractive women
have 38DD bust sizes anyway.}

3.  The normal sequence of sexual experiences is first petting, then oral
sex, then anal sex, then vaginal sex - usually all on the same date.  

4. The first boy to touch a girl's breasts will come in each of her three
orifices within the next hour.

5.  Most women would intensely enjoy sexual contact with another woman, but
most men would not enjoy sexual contact with another man, even if cultural
biases were eliminated.

6.  Children who have sex with their parents normally enjoy this activity and
grow up to be emotionally mature honor roll students who will contribute to
scientific research and to world peace.

7.  Ditto for sex with older siblings, kindly neighbors, and random
strangers.

8.  When sons, daughters, little brothers, or little sisters ask questions
about sex, the best way to answer their questions is to show them, using
their bodies as part of the demonstration.

9.  When a spouse or lover catches his/her partner having sex with someone
else, the typical response is to join in.

10.  Women typically have multiple orgasms during every fulfilling sexual
encounter.

11.  Middle-aged men can typically have sex with copious ejaculations several
times a day for several days in a row.

10 & 11a.  Women and men that can do so are happier and better sex partners
than those who have fewer orgasms.

12.  Kids can go blind if they masturbate too often.  {Ooops.  That one
belongs on a different newsgroup!}

13.  Kids who do not masturbate at least daily are severely disturbed.

14.  It is important to pop a person's cherry before she gets out of high
school {or gets into high school, has her first date, gets married, buys her
first car, etc.}

15.  Women typically enjoy getting raped, once they get over their
inhibitions.

16.  Men who force women to have sex with them are sexy.

17.  People can be turned into sex slaves by college kids who read a chapter
in a psych book.  {Either that are some of these stories are written by Psych
profs who are really desperate to motivate their students to read a chapter
in their text book.}

18.  If you ever get turned into a sex slave, it will be the best thing that
ever happened to you.

19.  The typical male ejaculation shoots at least 12 inches through the air
{unless the penis is inserted into a receptacle which will terminate this
expulsion.  In this case the ejaculate lands with the impact of a speeding
bullet.}

20.  Most women ejaculate at least a pint of luscious fluid during a really
enjoyable sexual experience.

21.  Most people get turned on when their partner treats them with extreme
cruelty for the partner's own personal gratification.

22.  Most black men have "monster cocks."  These 12- to 14-inch penises will
thrill any pussy (or other aperture) lucky enough to receive one.  Black
women, however, do not have "monster cunts," nor do they appear to be all
that interested in the genitalia of their black brethren.  Hence the
reciprocal fondness between black men and white women, especially those known
as sluts.

23.  The family that fucks together stays together.

24.  It's more fun to have sexual intercourse when there's a genuine risk of
pregnancy.  Offspring resulting from unprotected intercourse of minors tend
to be sexy honor students by the time they reach middle school. 

25.  Nuns {and English teachers, librarians, etc.} are really sexual dynamos.

26.  Ain't nothing wrong with most frigid women that a riding crop won't
cure.

27.  Guys who go without underpants and have sex several times a day do not
develop a nasty rash.

28.  Male doctors get their rocks off during physical examinations of female
patients.  Female doctors have multiple orgasms whenever they examine a
beautiful person of either sex.

29.  A girl will get her first orgasm from her first intercourse, usually
within minutes after having her hymen torn.

30.  Most young girls are looking for experienced men to train them in sexual
practices.  They want to start but they don't know anything about it.  When
they find these instructors, they will say things like, "Yes, eat my pussy
now!"  {Which is a strange request from somebody that doesn't know anything
about sexual practices.}

31.  Most women who find that their husbands want to turn them out to their
friends respond, "Sounds like fun."

32.  Most boys who are forced to act the part of a girl find that they love
the role.  Unless this happens for the first time in a penal institution
other than school.

33.  Parents routinely leave their bedroom doors ajar when they intend to
have sex, and kids do so when they intend to masturbate, which they do
noisily above the bed sheets.

34. Nobody ever farts while making love. Especially not during anal
intercourse.  And even if they do, its never one of those rancid ones that
linger on and on.  And even if it is, the partner thinks its sexy.

35. No one ever gets a cramp while making love.  For that matter, no one ever
sneezes or has a nose so filled with snot that it's impossible to breathe,
much less give a blowjob.

36. The woman's vagina never makes that 'farting' noise due to trapped air in
there.  If she does, this causes immediate orgasm in both partners.

37. Nobody ever forgets to wipe his/her ass prior to having it licked, which
is unfortunate, because most people absolutely love the taste of human feces.

38. The woman never says "Ouch! I wasn't ready! I'm too dry!"  If she thinks
she wants to say these things, she instead says, "Fuck me harder!"

39. Men don't turn over and go to sleep immediately after sex.

40. Women don't fall asleep at the beginning of sex, when they feel so
comfortable and relaxed, and they can just let themselves go.... If they do
fall asleep, their partner regards this as a compliment.

Final note: Remember: even though someone else may be posting my reviews for
me, my e-mail address is still Celeste801@aol.com.

- Celeste

      "Tasty Young Coeds" by Johnny D (spam snuff) 10, 8, 8
      "Annie and Me" by DreamIQ (incest) 10, 10, 5
      "A Quickie at the Wedding" by dousan (quickie) 9, 7, 7
      "Summer of Sin" by Andrew Roller (elaborate orgy) 0.5, 10, 9

 Guest Reviews: 

      "Moving" by Bebrack (adolescent sex & pedophilia)
            9, 7, 7
      "Wedding Day Cheat"  by Unknown Author (quickie)10, 8, 9
      "Dinner with Jennifer" by Captain Atom (sex with Jennifer)
            9, 5, 5
      "Roadside Assistance" by Kathy B. (rape & sex slavery) 10, 9, 1

Reposted Reviews:

    * "Mercedes" by Morgan Preece (slut training) 10, 10, 10
    * "The Hedonists" by Jonboy (orgies) 9, 10, 10
    * "Marie" by Friar Dave (emerging adolescence) 10, 10, 10

* = Repost of previous review (because the story has recently been
      reposted)

"Tasty Young Coeds" by Johnny D (JohnnyD@cryogen.com). This late entry in
Malinov's spam contest was inspired by the phrases CUM SHOOTING UP HER NOSE
and DRIED CUM ON HER CHIN, which it doesn't use.  Instead it builds upon the
eponymous image of TASTY YOUNG COEDS.  The story succeeds as an exercise in
creativity to the extent that it uses the title phrase in an unexpected
manner. However, it's noteworthy much more for being odd than for being
erotic or sexy.

Ratings for "Tasty Young Coeds"
Athena (technical quality): 10
Venus (plot & character): 8
Celeste (appeal to reviewer): 8

"Annie and Me" by DreamIQ (DreamIQ@wizard.com). This is one of those "true"
about father-daughter incest. The narrator and his daughter have never actuall
y considered their activity to be anything like abuse, even though the author
knows that evil things happen when incest is forced on a child. {As the judge
said to the court psychiatrist, "Well, if they don't consider it to be
harmful, then it must be wholesome!"} He wrote this story to inform,
entertain and... enlighten us.

It all started when Annie was 11 and was experiencing "growing pains."  Dad
massaged her breasts; this became a nightly ritual; soon Dad was getting a
hard-on; etc.  But soon this placid existence is torn assunder - er asunder,
but that loses the pun - when Dad catches Mom in bed with her friend Lois.
 It's curtains for the marriage; and since lesbian mothers are often
recalcitrant in their motherly duties {because they lack the prerequisite
demo penis, I suppose}, Dad has to take on more and more responsibility for
initiating Annie into the world of adult sexuality for 12-year-olds.

So here's the problem in a nutshell. Annie's friend Amber has a brother who
lets her jerk him off.  But Annie has no older brother - only a horny father.
She can learn all she wants about girl/girl sex by playing with Amber, but
she needs info about penises and such.  What's a father to do?  Send her to a
convent? Turn her over to Jason?  The answer should be obvious, especially in
a town that apparently lacks counselors and benevolent bartenders who might
offer additional suggestions.

If post-prandial handjobs become habitual, can blowjobs be far behind?
"Aaaaaahhhhhhhhhh,!" they groan. Repeatedly.  As per schedule, the first
paternal penile penetration comes in her anus rather than her pussy.  {As you
know, I hate to apostrophize, but do you men out there REALLY think little
girls would enjoy having their first sexual penetration occur when an adult
cock is rammed up her unlubricated ass?  Get real!}

The paradox of a naked woman-child with her first wanton, erotic look on her
face certainly DOES have intuitive appeal.  But then so does hitting my
assistant principal in the head with a baseball bat.  You can go to prison
for either offense.

Annie's aureolae were crankily - alas, that's a different lesson.  For now,
I'll just say the word is areola.

This is a well-written, interesting fantasy.  However, you may have detected
a faint note of sarcasm in my review - as if I see something wrong with what
Dad and Annie are doing.  What's wrong?  Well, nothing -IF everything could
turn out this way. But I just have this nagging suspicion that in real life
little girls who get boinked by their daddies don't often grow up to be
intellectually sophisticated, emotionally exuberant, sexual dynamos.  {For
further comments along with a similar story that I liked a lot better, see my
review of Friar Dave's "Marie," which is reposted later in this issue.}

If this is a "true" story, then I am poet laureate of England.
"Aaaaaahhhhhhhhhh! Unnnnnggghhhh!" Now THERE'S a real turn-on.

Ratings for "Annie and Me"
Athena (technical quality): 10
Venus (plot & character): 10
Celeste (appeal to reviewer): 5

"A Quickie at the Wedding" by dousan (dousan@mailer.canadianwebmaster.com).
The narrator goes to a small wedding at a private home, meets a drunken slut
nymphomaniac {i.e., a dipsomaniac nymphomaniac}, and fucks her quickly but
industriously in the bathroom.  Imagine that.

Ratings for "A Quickie at the Wedding"
Athena (technical quality): 9
Venus (plot & character): 7
Celeste (appeal to reviewer): 7

"Summer of Sin" by Andrew Roller (roller39@idt.net).  Like many stories in
the Naughty Naked Dreamgirls series, this one is labeled Chapter 1.  I have
never seen a Chapter 2 to any of the stories, but maybe that's because I have
not looked hard enough.  {If I were a male critic writing this review, that
last sentence would have been a plaintively pejorative pun.}  Anyway, I have
not been too impressed with previous Dreamgirl escapades; but I thought I
should give Andy another chance.

This one is pretty good.  There obviously is more to the story than I read,
and I am basing my ratings on the assumption that the rest of the story is of
the same caliber as Chapter 1.  

Chloe has been left to stay with her Aunt Rebecca in Paris, while her parents
cavort about the continent.  The first thing Aunt Rebecca does is take Chloe
to one of those fine Parisian parties where the merrymakers are naked above
the waste and everyone eats their meal out of someone else's panties - more
literally than you might suspect.  Around this time of the year I often read
some Charles Dickens, who takes great delight in describing what I think are
decadent Victorian Christmas customs.  Although both authors would probably
object to the comparison, this story reminded me of one of Dickens's stories
- a sense of wonderment at the opulent festivities and amazement at what
might come next.

If you like to read about idle rich people indulging themselves, then you'll
probably enjoy this story; but you may want to make sure you have more than
the first chapter before you spend much time on it.

Remember this to avoid a faux pas: "You do not eat spaghetti out of your own
panties.  Other people eat it out of your panties, and you eat it out of
theirs."

And then there's this spelling gem: "A little more rogue on her nipples,
Didi." possibly means "Get another one of the studs from the bar to come in
and suck my other tit, Didi."

Ratings for "Summer of Sin"
Athena (technical quality): 9.5
Venus (plot & character): 10
Celeste (appeal to reviewer): 9

"Moving" by Bebrack (KE4SCX@aol.com).  Guest review by Sven the Elder.

As I read this story a couple of words popped into mind.  Believable and
Fantasy.  These are a little of what all of us apply to stories that we
write.  We want to weave a little bit of fantasy into a believable tale.  The
two should be mutually inclusive, not exclusive.

The story tells the fantasy of a new kid on the block.  Fifteen years old, he
has just moved next door to the only eligible female on the block.  He is
pissed because he had almost, but not quite got his previous girlfriend to
the point of screwing; but then he had moved before that had occurred.  Now
he has his chance with this new kid called Judy.   It turns out she is horny
because she has been watching her mom and dad screw through peep holes or
from her well prepared tree house.

I have to say that at this point I began to feel that the story line was
suspicious.  These were a fifteen and a fourteen year old and they had the
mannerisms and thoughts of twenty five or thirty year olds.  Sorry but a
fifteen-year-old boy who has screwed someone for the first time a couple of
hours before does not think or say: "Anything more than a mouthful is wasted
anyway, I always say," as he leans down to take one of her nipples between
his lips.  I have, however, met precocious little girls who were capable of
thinking and acting like the young star of this tale. The story progresses
through sex ed and him screwing first her mother and then his own.

I guess it stops short of pedo, but for me the action is schoolboy fantasy
with a touch of incest thrown in at the end.   The sex is there and quite
hot, but is unsatisfying. This is an unbelievable, somewhat unrealistic
fantasy that leaves me perhaps not totally cold, but certainly cool.  The
writer has written the tale from the perspective of a teenager, but has
fallen into the trap of using the mindset of an adult.

Sorry, to use an old phrase - "Not my bag," but it may appeal to those who
like the stories on youngsters growing up.

Ratings for "Moving  by Bebrack"
Technical quality:  9
Plot & character:  7
Sven (appeal to reviewer):  7

"Wedding Day Cheat"  by Unknown Author.  Guest review by M1ke Hunt.

Whaddya gonna do when you've been lusting after your best friend all through
college and find out she's about to be married? Whaddya gonna do when she
calls and asks you to visit and help with her wedding dress? Whaddya gonna do
when all the other people in the store suddenly leave and tell you they won't
be back for a half-hour?

Your choices are: a) fuck her, b) fuck her, or c) fuck her.

OK, so there aren't any big surprises here, and it's more of a super-short
scene instead of a story. So what? It's a decent read: the set-up is good, if
predictable, and the sex is good, if predictable. Predictable isn't
necessarily a bad thing, it's just, uh, predictable.

Ratings for "Wedding Day Cheat"
Athena (technical quality): 10
Venus (plot & character): 8 
Mikeus (appeal to reviewer): 9

"Dinner with Jennifer" by Captain Atom (email unknown).  Guest
review by Dart.

Jennifer is a new junior executive at the company where Steve works. In the
two months she's been there, they've developed a nice friendship. Then, one
day Jennifer invites him to a dinner party at her place. He's the first guest
to arrive; he's the last guest to leave. If I said more, I'd give away the
story. I will say that the second paragraph is devoted to an elaborate
description of Jennifer. After that, I thought I knew what would happen, and
I was correct.

Because Captain Atom writes well, this story disappointed me. The first
paragraph setup was short but adequate. From there, it could have developed in
 various directions: sultry, seductive, romantic, etcetera. Instead, Jennifer
was such an unbelievable character that what it did give was predictable and
routine.

In summary, I'd say that the story was descriptive rather than emotive.

Ratings for "Dinner with Jennifer"
Athena (technical quality): 9
Venus (plot & character): 5
Dart (appeal to reviewer): 5

"Roadside Assistance" by Kathy B. (kathybxx@aol.com).  Guest review by Kim-
her 30th!

Celeste always concludes her request for a review with the words "As usual,
if you do not want to review this story, just say so". I was very close to
doing just that with this story. However, if I refuse stories just because I
object to their storylines, then my services as a reviewer reduce even more
than they are already. So, having got that out of the way...

A young, unnamed woman (though, as it's written first person by a woman, I
guess we can say her name's Kathy) crashes her car in a snowstorm. She phones
her husband for assistance on her mobile phone and then waits for rescue.
Driven to keeping warm by drinking a bottle of whiskey she has with her, she
sits and shivers.

Finally some men arrive; and since she is too drunk to object, they take her
to their car and drive off to an unknown destination. There Kathy learns of
her misfortune. Five men have abducted her solely for the purpose of raping
her and turning her into their sex slave. There follows a catalogue of
painful bondage, belt whippings, and repeated rapes anal, oral, and vaginal.

Throughout she is denied any sexual relief herself until the end, when one or
her hands is released so that she may masturbate for the men's amusement.
After that she is told that she is now their slave because of all the
photographs they took of her ordeal.

Good points: Well written, sadly believable. Bad points: deeply unpleasant
and depressing.

This story does raise many points of interest that may be debated on ASSD.
Such as the nature of extreme fantasies, are they best left unwritten? Is it
somehow more acceptable being written by a woman? What makes anyone want to
read such a thing for pleasure? Is it the place of reviewers to even pose
such questions? I have dark fantasies myself, so are Kathy's fantasies any
more or less acceptable than mine?

I have my own opinions on all the above and will happily expound should
anyone ask, but this is not the time or place.

Ratings for "Roadside Assistance" 
Athena (technical quality): 10 (Perfectly good writing)
Venus (plot & character): 9 (Depressingly believable, save the
       "you're now our slave" bit)
Kim (appeal to reviewer): 1 (I loathed it)

* "Mercedes" by Morgan Preece (zanna@whoever.com).  The narrator is a gigolo,
I suppose; he hangs onto his piece of life by latching onto older women, who
like him for his good looks and the sex he is able to throw their way.  As he
says, " Sex is all in the mind anyway and I approached each woman as an
intellectual puzzle subject to physical manipulation, like one of those
multicolored cubes.  But things begin to change one day when he tries to
seduce a rich woman who drives a Mercedes.  He finds himself trapped,
enslaved; and he undergoes experiences that had never even occurred to him
before.

I usually don't like sex-slavery stories or those that involve piercing and
diapers; but I did enjoy this story.  It's hard to explain.  I recommend you
check it out for yourself.

Ratings for "Mercedes"
Athena (technical quality): 10
Venus (plot & character): 10
Celeste (appeal to reviewer): 10

* "The Hedonists" by Jonboy (jonboy@thepoint.net).  I get skeptical about
these stories sometimes.  So when I brought my husband a beer during a
commercial of the baseball game tonight, I said to him, "Imagine that you are
a plumber and have to wait for an hour until the lady of the house returns.
 Her nubile step-daughter is lying by the pool and asks you to rub suntan
lotion on her, and her movements cause her tiny black bikini to practically
disappear into her the crack of her tight little ass.  As you apply the
lotion, you can smell the odor of sex permeating the air around you.  Would
you find this to be at all erotic?"  "What does nubile mean?" he replied, as
I handed him his beer and a bottle of baby lotion, flipped off the TV with
the remote control, lay down with my naked ass easing out beneath my
tee-shirt, and said, "The kids will be home at 8:30."  Anyway, the basic
premise of the story seems to be sound: at least some men would find this to
be an erotic situation.

Actually, the kids did not get home till 9:00 and the premise was more erotic
than I had expected - either that or it contrasted really well with a boring
baseball game; and so I didn't get back to reading this story until much
later.  By then it had occurred to me that since the title was plural, ole
Dave would be checking the plumbing of both mother and daughter and possibly
a few others unknown to me at that moment.

By the way, Dave is a stud himself; so this is not a guy's only fantasy.  In
addition, he's apparently a union plumber: "You just charge us for the whole
day," says Mom.  "It would be worth twice the price to find an unusual man
like yourself."

As I understand it, Dave had five resounding orgasms within about five hours
during his initial visit, and he also found time to fix a leaky pipe while
the step-mother shaved her pussy in front of him.  Fortunately, the ladies
had no Kryptonite in their house.  I have no idea how often the two woman
came that first afternoon, but they were both pretty happy.  Meanwhile, I was
at the end of chapter 4 out of 10, and my husband was dead to the world after
moving the earth only two times in 94 minutes.  Then in chapter 5 Dave gets a
hard-on thinking about his upcoming <g> date with Vicki that evening, and so
he has oral sex with his roommate (a guy) before he showers and heads off for
his date in chapter 6.

When Dave returns to the mansion at 7:00 the Three Amigos fondle, exchange
tongues, and become pre-orgasmic; but they do NOT engage in full genital
contact.  Another orgasm at this time might strain credulity. The kids go out
for pizza and Mom goes upstairs for her dildo - either that or she goes to a
bar and takes on an entire basketball team before going to spend the evening
in a sex club.  The transitions are not perfectly clear here; and reality and
fantasy merge. Chapter 7 explains the activities of the sex club - The
Hedonists Society; and these would make an interesting story in themselves.
 In fact, chapter 7 SHOULD be a separate story; stylistically it's a major
distraction, and I have no idea why the author felt the need to shove it into
this story.  Suffice it to say that these hedonistic little fuckers probably
have a franchise in a city near yours - unfortunately, it's fictional. 

Meanwhile, back in the real "plot," Dave and Vicki go to a nightclub that has
a "sexiest couple contest."  Having already exceeded the limits of human
sexual capacity, of course, they refrain from participating.  Right!  And I
have a bridge in Brooklyn and some oceanfront property in Arizona that I'd
like to sell you.  Actually, they win the contest.  This may not seem
improbable, since the couple has refrained from full sexual copulation for
nearly nine hours by the time the contest starts, but I forgot to tell you
that Dave had already cum three times immediately before the contest began.  

The dance contest scenario is especially well written.  The author describes
not only the antics of Dave and Vicki but also those of several other
couples; and the various couples also interact with one another.  And this
hot sex is NOT a digression, but rather a contribution to the overall plot.
 An anthropologist at heart, Dave wins the contest with an ancient mating
dance.  It had a good beat and was easy to cum to.  Dick Clark would give it
a 99.  To celebrate their victory, Vicki sucks Dave's cock to the verge of
orgasm in the car on the way home; but he doesn't cum (again, we don't want
to strain credulity).  To wrap things up, Dave stays over with Vicki; and Mom
wakes up and joins them for one final orgy.  Assuming the story ends at, say,
4:00 a.m., Dave has had ten raging orgasms within 19 hours.  Not bad for a
plumber.

A word of stylistic advice to the author: I don't see what is gained by
referring to Vicki as "the sex crazed bitch" in the normal narrative.  It
makes sense to use this terminology to express DAVE's thoughts; but the
author does a good job of giving an objective but hot description of events,
and I think the evaluative reference weakens the presentation.  Normally,
when it is the author speaking we hear words like "the beautiful young woman"
or even "the beautiful young woman whose cunt ached for his cock."  A lot of
authors do this.  My advice is to consider what can be gained by using the
appropriate words at the right times.  {The following is fine: "OK, bitch!"
Dave swore, "You want fucked.  This is a fuck!"  It's proper because these
are DAVE's words, not the narrator's.}

Not everything in the story was a turn-on for me.  For example, I don't find
it at all erotic to think of a guy pissing on me; and while swallowing cum
seems sexy to me, gulping down a mouthful of piss does not.  Likewise,
sticking my finger and even my tongue into a pulsating ass is sexy; but I
have no desire to have a guy dump his load on me.  However, there was plenty
of hot stuff, and I could have simply skimmed the less delectable parts.

As I started this story, I was seriously considering docking the author for
having no real plot - this story was just an excuse to talk about sex.  But
then I discovered that there really was a plot of sorts; and at the very
least it was a damned good excuse to talk about sex.  Then I said to myself
that certainly I had to subtract a point or so for the lack of realism.  I
mean, I've read Kinsey and Masters & Johnson and some of the others; and not
even Shere Hite thinks a guy who has already been having frequent sex can
have this many orgasms.  But what the hell!  "High Noon" is a great movie,
and nobody ever counts how many times Will Kane fires his six-shooter without
reloading.

Assuming there are people who want to read a story primarily to get
themselves or a friend turned on, there may be a demand for this story!

Ratings for "The Hedonists"
Athena (technical quality): 9
Venus (plot & character): 10
Celeste (appeal to reviewer): 10

* "Marie" by Friar Dave.  {In the current repost this story is listed as
"Marie" by Marie.  Not true.  It's by Friar Dave.}

When she was a little under 11 years old and had a body that was a bit
advanced for her age, Marie made an important discovery.  She could become
close to and even have sex with nice men, and she could turn them on and
still have them treat her right, and it could be fun and sweet and
pleasurable and not hateful or hurtful or scary.

The problem was that soon she loved sex, and she was used to getting it
pretty much when she wanted it. And she was often horny as hell.  To use
Marie's own expression, she was making Lolita look like a nun.

Marie's initial sexual contacts were with boys near her own age.  She quickly
graduated to more mature boys and to adult men.  Once she had experienced the
more mature partners, she lost interest in younger boys.  She progresses to
numerous hot, sexy adventures.

If we accept this as fiction - a nice story - then we're OK.  If we look at
it as a case study - which is the format the author uses - then our choices
are to regard this story as either (1) a very unusual set of circumstances or
(2) a far-fetched fantasy.  The FACT is that there is an overwhelming
tendency for girls who become sexually active this young to have adult lives
that are at best far below their potential at and worst just plain miserable.
 I have worked with kids who have been sexually active.  I am not talking
about "kids" who get married and start a family when they are 17.  I am
talking about kids who start having constant sex when they are under 12 years
old.  In general, when they become adults, they have no idea what real love
is about.  They've lost their childhood.  They almost invariably either drop
out of school or just sit in a desk until the law permits them to leave.
 They enter into a series of shallow sexual relationships as adults, and they
almost never have what a sensible person would call a stable family.  My
guess is that by their fiftieth birthday half of the kids I have known like
this will be dead after an unhappy life.

I also serve as an informal counselor to a large number of well-adjusted
teenagers (by being the sponsor of various organizations), and my impression
is that the sexual experiences of these kids begin much later in life.
 Articles and case studies published in scientific journals confirm my
perception.

It's possible that I'm getting a biased sample in my real life contacts.  I
work with kids who are dysfunctional, and so maybe I just don't see the
well-adjusted kids who have been having frequent sex since they were 11 years
old.  It's POSSIBLE that the world is full of wonderful children like Marie
who become sexually active before they turn 11, who are never sexually
exploited, and whose lives are not permanently screwed up because of their
early sexual experiences.  These kids would not come to my attention, because
they look like normal kids and don't advertise the fact that they're fucking
one another's brains out when I'm not looking.  It's also important to note
that even with the dysfunctional kids it may be the problems in the rest of
their lives that lead to early sexual behavior rather than vice versa.  

What I most emphatically want to say is that I do NOT believe that any of you
readers who started your sexual careers at a really early age are necessarily
scarred for life because of this.  On the other hand, I hope you have the
honesty to admit that maybe life would be better were it not for some early
problems and mistakes.

Marie discovered early in this story that sex could be fun and sweet and
pleasurable and not hateful or hurtful or scary.  I learned the same thing
from my mother and from the happy environment in which I grew up.  Mom didn't
let me look at porn magazines when I was really young, because they would
"give me a wrong impression of sex and love." My father and mother were very
affectionate in front of us, and I knew that someday I might get lucky and
have a similar relationship.  She knew what kinds of movies I watched and
casually offered me advice, including the encouragement to "save myself" for
somebody I truly loved.  I had a full childhood and a happy athletic career
in high school; and I cannot imagine my sex life being much better than it is
right now - except when I get interesting ideas from these stories.  My
advice to my own daughters has been similar; and had I ever suspected that
one of them was engaging in precocious sexual behavior I would have done what
I could have done to lead her to a more adaptive lifestyle.

Having stated my personal philosophy in the previous paragraphs, now I'll say
that this is still an excellent story.  It's "realistic" in the sense that
these events COULD happen to a person that would grow up to be a normal,
functioning adult.  And if you read the whole story, I think you'll discover
that Marie's eventual opinion of her life story is not all that different
from my own.

The story is also just plain enjoyable - even to a person like myself who
would discourage such behavior in real life.  I have close friends and
relatives who adamantly insist that anything that's immoral, unwise, or
unrealistic cannot be enjoyable.  That's just plain stupid.  When I watch
Star Wars, I don't worry about the impact on their families of killing the
storm troopers of the Evil Empire.  When I watch a movie about a clever bank
robbery, I don't worry about the fact that such activity would ultimately
influence how banks would operate and probably cause hardship for families
with marginal incomes.  Get real!  It would be fun to rob a bank and get away
with it (although I would never do it and it couldn't really be harmless in
real life), and it would also be fun for a 12-year-old to pull a train with a
bunch of friendly 16-year-olds.  Not wise, perhaps, but certainly fun.

Some people cite this as Friar Dave's best story.  I liked "Inger" better,
but this one is still an excellent story.

Ratings for "Marie"
Athena (technical quality): 10
Venus (plot & character): 10
Celeste (appeal to reviewer): 10


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