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Subject: Re: Where is Mr. Double? [the final word]
From: mccoyf@millcomm.com (Frank McCoy)
Date: Fri, Oct 24, 1997 23:52 EDT
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slayer@death.com (The Assassin) wrote:

>He has indeed gone. I was in communication with him for a while after
>he decided to pull his web page. His decision to delete the contents
>of his web page was something of a spur of the moment decision, but I
>believe it was building up for a long time. Frustrations with
>commercial web sites ripping off the stories, authors who decided to
>go commercial, and a general antipathy from his readers took a heavy
>toll. However, the final straw was Princess Diana's death. He looked
>at her as a kind of guardian angel over children, and her death made
>him reevaluate his desire to read and archive stories dealing with
>incest/pedophilia (about 90% of the stories on his site). 
>
>The following is a cut/paste from one of his letters to me, one I feel
>was in the flavor of a public announcement, and I don't think he'd
>mind sharing it. He *did* give me permission to make a statement if I
>so desired.
>
>>***
>>It is imperative that the reason for my departure be remembered as the
>>overwhelming grief for Princess Diana and what she stood for rather than me
>>being ripped off or whatever.  The conviction that the overall well-being
>>of the world's children is more important right now than the freedom of
>>thought.
>>***
>
Well, I'm damned glad to hear he's OK.
(If being heartbroken over Diana's death can be called that.)
For a while I worried if something dreadful had happened to him.

Much as I like the guy, I have to disagree with that last thought.
Without freedom of thought, the welfare of the world's children
will be sad indeed.  Look at the state of children in the countries
where freedom of thought is denied, and I dare anybody to repeat that.
Without freedom to think for themselves, what else could possibly
make it worth losing that to a child?
Those who deny children the right to think for themselves, are
the first to abuse them.  Only those adults free to think for
themselves, will fight for children abused elsewhere.

Without freedom of thought, freedom to care for others doesn't exist.
Princess Diana would have been first to say this.
SHE was free.  SHE didn't let others tell her what mattered.
SHE knew children hurt, so she worked to help them.
Without the freedom to think her own thoughts, and express
them in public, she wouldn't have been able to do anything about it.


Look at North Korea.
There hundreds of children are dying of hunger every day.
Only the government won't let anybody even talk about it,
let alone ask for help.  They won't admit the children are dying.
See what NOT having freedom to speak gets you?

And what kind of life will those children have, if they
don't have freedom to complain?  Think about it.
What kind of life would YOU have, if you didn't have
freedom to complain?  If you don't know, then look
at the common people in those countries where the
common people don't have that freedom.

For MY children, I'll fight for the right for them
to speak FIRST, then fight for their rights to be fed second.
If they don't have the first right, it's a pretty good
bet they won't ever have the right to the second.
(It isn't a right, if you can't object when you don't get it.)

People put down the right to free speech as "secondary"
to other rights . . . never realizing that ALL other "rights"
depend entirely on that first one.
If you don't have the right to free speech, then you
don't have ANY rights at all!
No right to food, water, or clothing.
No right to freedom from persecution.
No right to your own body.  (Yes, you're a slave.)
No right to freedom from torture.
No right to have sex, or NOT have sex at any age.
No rights at all.
(yes, that means without free speech, children have
no right to complain if they're used as sexual objects.
And neither do their parents, if they're taken from them.)
Don't say it won't happen . . . there's been too many cases
in the world where it has.
In many countries children were taken from their parents
just because they complained about the government.
In others, because they held beliefs that the government
disapproved of (religion, sex, philosophy, etc.)
Yes, even in THIS country.

Without freedom of speech, it's illegal to complain.
(That is almost always the first law passed, when freedom of
 speech is lost.  Look at China, and the Tiannemen Square massacre.)

>The word I got from Mr. Double is that he is no longer reading the
>story groups. His new e-mail address is secret, and he does not wish

Well, I can only hope he reads this letter.
I'm NOT trying to convince him to come back (though I wish he would).
I DO want him to know that he's missed;
and that we're all sorry he felt he had to go.

I especially hope it wasn't me or a couple of other "special"
authors he used to correspond with, that made him decide to leave.

Even if he doesn't decide to ever reopen his web-site,
(it must have been murder to maintain) I hope he reconsiders
his decision to not read or post to the newsgroups.
(No, I don't mean posting stories; I just mean responding
to messages that he sees a need to comment on, like I felt
the need to respond to this one.)

He's sorely missed; and not just for his web-site.
His comments, complaints, suggestions and wit are missed even more.
His stories will be missed too (at least by me, anyway).

>to communicate with any of his acquaintances from the story groups. My
>feeling was that it wasn't anything personal, it's just that he wanted
>to make a new start.
>
Sorry to hear that; but it's MUCH better than fearing that something
bad had happened to him.

>I suppose I should explain why I took so long to make this
>announcement. Very, very, very few of the people who benifited from
>Mr. D's hard work ever took the time to thank him. I figured that
>those folks should "eat static." However, a number of his friends and
>acquaintances do deserve to know the truth, and so I am posting.
>
I THOUGHT I thanked him repeatedly.
If I didn't, I certainly deserve to be chastised.
I was under the impression that at least several other authors
were VERY grateful for his supplying them with a place to post
their stories.  Perhaps they (we) didn't make our gratitude clear
enough.

I do remember him having a slightly annoyed discussion with
one author, but didn't think all that much of it at the time.
At the time, I was just glad he was kind enough to mirror
my site, thus allowing people to access my stories in an easier
manner than through MY site, where they're all encoded.

>I'm cross-posting this message to all the pertinent groups. It's the
>last time I'll discuss this issue. Please don't mail me with questions
>or mail to be forwarded. Just let it lie please.

Well, sadly a few people only met through him.
There's at least one author whose only contact with me
for posting stories was through Mr. Double.
Sadly, because he isn't there any more, we might
never be able to collaborate again on another story,
unless he reads this and tries to contact me directly.

He didn't at the time though; so I fear he won't now.

And there is the biggest loss we all feel.
People trusted him; thus making available more consensual-sex
stories from his site than on the whole rest of the web.
Without him, those people who write such "nice" stories,
usually being people who CARE what others think, are finding
it hard to share THEIR idea that sex doesn't have to hurt;
that sex should be NICE, and consensual, and fun for all concerned.

So instead, the newsgroups get flooded with pain, torture,
bondage, horror, rape, branding, snuff, and similar stories,
with very few of the kind of story he used to post to balance.

I (and I suppose a few others) will continue to post MY stories
(and they will post theirs) and try to show that sex doesn't
HAVE to hurt or hurt someone to be enjoyed.
Still, it's a hard battle for a knight to fight, when the
grand castle of your army has voluntarily surrendered.

I guess maybe the hate/hurt/maim/kill school of sex might win after
all.  At least, in the battle for minds in the sex-stories newsgroups.
God, I hope not.
(Listen to me, a devout agnostic calling on God to help fight the
battle for people's minds.  And me, the author of consensual/pedo/preg
stories that a large percentage of people consider to be worse than
the rape/murder/torture kind.)
God, if he exists, must be having quite a chuckle over that . . .
If he isn't crying, like I almost am.

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