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Frequently Asked Questions about Alt.sex.stories.moderated (assm)
Modification details
Last modified (31/03/97 10:12:45).
Reason for last modification: changed anon remailer information
Previous modifications: many changes and new questions
The questions:
1. [1]How can I participate in assm?
2. [2]What is acceptible in assm?
3. [3]Where can I get an anonymous address?
4. [4]Where are the stories archived?
5. [5]Hey! I saw some spam in assm. What's up?
6. [6](Advanced) What do you use to moderate the group?
7. [7](Advanced) What are some problems that may keep me from reading
assm?
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The questions and answers:
1. How can I participate in assm?
If all is working well at your site, then just posting normally
will cause the newsserver to forward the article to me for
approval. If things are not working well any of several things
could happen.
your post appears on the group immediately
Your site doesn't properly handle moderated newsgroups.
Contact your system or news administrator.
you get a a bounce from tdr.com
Your site has an out of date INN moderators file. Contact
your system or news administrator.
you get a bounce from UUnet
Something odd is wrong. Send [8]me mail.
any other bounce
Dunno. Probably something weird with mail somewhere. Try
sending it again.
At this point let's assume that the article made it to me. I will
do one of three things with it.
i. Approve and post it.
ii. Reject it and send mail saying why.
iii. Determine it to have an invalid return address and reject it
without an email explanation. Spam falls into this category.
Once I have injected it into the news system, it will take some
time to propagate back to your host and other hosts. If you don't
see the post at your site or at either of [9]DejaNews or
[10]AltaVista within a few days [11]contact me. Assm doesn't have
very good propagatation yet, but I am working on that by sending
regular newgroup messages.
If it is easier for you (as might be with an anonymous remailer)
you can bypass your local newsserver when submitting things for
approval by sending the article to
<story-submit@qz.little-neck.ny.us> directly.
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2. What is acceptible in assm?
_From my original policy announcement:_
A. Stories only. No requests for stories, no ancedotes. No ads
or web page announcements, etc. Basically the same material
as [12]rec.arts.erotica.
B. Valid email address of submitters. It can be through a
anonymous remailer, so long as it can be replied to get to
the submitter. For now (at least) anti-spam munging of
addresses is allowed.
C. No HTML, MIME, or other unreadible junk; no poorly formatted
posts. (eg lines over 80 chars, whatever). I may reformat
these for you.
D. All postings must be free for non-commercial distribution and
archiving. Ie, no copyright notices that say "Do not
archive." It is fine to say "You may not sell this story"
however.
Main differences between my rules and the rules of
rec.arts.erotica:
A. I am not going to be reviewing stories. I do reserve the
right to post other peoples reviews (eg Celeste) if presented
to me.
B. No restrictions on violence, spelling, or grammar.
C. Reposts allowed.
D. Submitter need not be author.
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3. Where can I get an anonymous address?
There are at least two services which offer web-only based
replyable anonymization. There are also at least two others which
can do it by email.
I. [13]www.POBoxes.com gives users free mailboxes which can hide
their real address.
II. [14]www.Mailmasher.com does as well, but at the time of this
writing they are "temporarily" not accepting new accounts.
(Mailmasher has been at the center of some abuse of the net
complaints recently; I'd hesitate before using it.)
III. [15]www.Nymserver.com offered free and commercial anonymous
remailing. Abuses by spam posters have forced some changes
recently and I am not sure what the status of this remailer
is. It can/could be operated entirely by email
([16]help@anon.nymserver.com).
IV. [17]www.EDTec.com has a commercial anonymous remailer. After
contacting them they have decided to allow anonymous posting
to moderated newsgroups. It can be operated entirely by email
([18]infos.an@edtec.com).
The newsgroups [19]alt.anonymous and [20]alt.privacy.anon-server
are good places to find out about other services.
The Huge Cajones remailer and any other one-address-fits-all
anonymizers by virtue of not having replyable addresses are not
allowed. It is too easy to get free two way anonymization for me
to feel these are necessary.
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4. Where are the stories archived?
I haven't gotten around to making everything look nice yet, but
you can get them at
<URL:[21]http://www.netusa.net/~eli/erotica/assm/>. The collection
there is actually downright awkward now, but I hope to fix that in
the not too distant future.
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5. Hey! I saw some spam in assm. What's up?
Your newsserver may be misconfigured and accepting posts that
should have been mailed to me for approval. Turn on the verbose
headers or show all headers option in your newsreader and copy the
"Path:" and "Message-ID:" headers. Note that the Path: header is
often more than one line. Mail those headers to me at
<[22]headers@qz.little-neck.ny.us>.
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6. (Advanced) What do you use to moderate the group?
I use a hacked version of jmdigest
(<URL:[23]ftp://ftp.netusa.net/users/eli/jmdigest>) and and a
procmail scoring recipe
(<URL:[24]ftp://ftp.netusa.net/users/eli/assm-procmail>) to
pre-filter everything. You are welcome to try to use this
technology for other purposes, but be warned that jmdigest is
slow.
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7. (Advanced) What are some problems that may keep me from reading
assm?
Simple story is there are at least tens of thousands of usenet
news servers around the world. Normally when you post it appears
first on your local server, and then it distributes it to its
neighbors and they continue the distribution. (The path header
records the path it took.) The result is that you can post and see
something immediately, but it might not be seen by others for
hours or days.
With a moderated group everything happens at the newsserver the
moderator uses, not your local server. This delay is quite
noticible. And if there is poor connection (for the group[s]
involved) between your server and the moderator's server you can
miss articles altogether.
There are four things required for an article to move between two
"peering" (directly sharing) news servers. Let's say an article is
trying to go from X Industries' anvil newsserver to Waterbuffalo
Breeding Inc's bnafh news- server.
1. "bnafh" must not appear in the Path: header
2. bnafh must carry at least one group the article is
crossposted to
3. bnafh must not have seen any article with that article's
message ID in the past month
4. if the Distribution header is being used, anvil must think
banfh is part of one of the listed distributions and bnafh
must think that anvil is allowed to give it articles with
that distribution
Distribution is rarely used. Some newsservers add additional
checks like counting the number of crossposts or making sure the
file is not too large, but those are fairly uncommon.
Rule 2 from above can seriously hamper an articles distribution.
Let's say you have a map like this, boxes denote newsservers,
lines denote peering.
+-------+ +-------+ +-------+ +-------+
| bnafh |--| vodka |--| books |--| boing |
+---+---+ +-------+ +-------+ +---+---+
| |
+---+---+ +-------+ +-------+ +---+---+
| anvil |--| green |--| money |--| fibre |
+-------+ +-------+ +-------+ +-------+
Say anvil gets an article for alt.swedish.chef.bork.bork.bork, it
will try to give it to green and bnafh. Let's say every machine
but bnafh in the map carries a.s.c.b.b.b, green will accept the
article, but bnafh will not. So to reach vodka, which is pretty
close for some groups, that article will have to go through green,
money, fibre, boing, and books before it will be even offered to
vodka. On a much bigger map or on one where some of those
connections are small/slow it is possible the article will never
reach vodka due to news expiring.
It also may be pertinant to point out once your newsreader has
marked an article as read, it may hide if from you even if it is
there. So "catching up" / "punting" / "marking all as read"
(different terms I have seen in different newsreaders for the same
thing) on a group with a lot of noise, eg a.s.s, will result in
another group 100% cross posted to a.s.s, eg a.s.s.m, to appear
empty.
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[25]Still have questions?
_________________________________________________________________
[26]Back to the index. This page and archive maintainted by
[27]Benjamin Elijah Griffin.
References
1. http://www.netusa.net/~eli/erotica/assm/faq.html#howto
2. http://www.netusa.net/~eli/erotica/assm/faq.html#policy
3. http://www.netusa.net/~eli/erotica/assm/faq.html#anon
4. http://www.netusa.net/~eli/erotica/assm/faq.html#archive
5. http://www.netusa.net/~eli/erotica/assm/faq.html#spam
6. http://www.netusa.net/~eli/erotica/assm/faq.html#tools
7. http://www.netusa.net/~eli/erotica/assm/faq.html#problem
8. mailto:story-admin@qz.little-neck.ny.us
9. http://www.dejanews.com/
10. http://www.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/query?pg=q&what=news
11. mailto:story-admin@qz.little-neck.ny.us
12. news:rec.arts.erotica
13. http://www.poboxes.com/
14. http://www.mailmasher.com/
15. http://www.nymserver.com/
16. mailto:help@anon.nymserver.com
17. http://www.edtec.com/anon.html
18. mailto:infos.an@edtec.com
19. news:alt.anonymous
20. news:alt.privacy.anon-server
21. http://www.netusa.net/~eli/erotica/assm/
22. mailto:headers@qz.little-neck.ny.us
23. ftp://ftp.netusa.net/users/eli/jmdigest
24. ftp://ftp.netusa.net/users/eli/assm-procmail
25. mailto:story-faq@qz.little-neck.ny.us
26. http://www.netusa.net/~eli/erotica/index.html
27. http://www.netusa.net/~eli/index.html
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