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   Neighbors Next Door part 2

   About 3 months later, I was bulging out in my stomach, I was pregnant.
We didn't know who had gotten me this way, whether it was Ted, Dad, my
brothers, Tommy or one of the men from the camp.  It didn't really matter
that much anyway, I was still knocked up.  That's the hazards of the work
that I do.  But for the money I make it's well worth it for an accident
once in a while.  One day my best girlfriend Amy, asks me when the baby was
due and I told her in about 6 months.  She said that she wishes it was her,
that she wanted to get knocked up also.  She asked me who the father was
and I told her that I didn't really know.  She said, "You mean that you've
been fucked by other guys besides Ted?"

   I told her Yes, lots of them.  She said that she wished that she could
be fucked by Ted, I'm sorry, I know that he's your boyfriend and I envy you
but I would still love to be fucked by him.  I told her that it was alright
that I didn't mind her saying that.  I told her that since I was pregnant
now that we wouldn't be fucking as much for a while and maybe if she'd like
he could fuck her instead of me.  She says, "Holy shit, are you kidding me.
Do you really think that he would do that?" I told her that he would if I
asked him to.  Why don't you tell your mother that you'll be coming home
with me tomorrow after school and we can go to my house and Ted will be
coming over.

   I asked her, "Amy, you know that we're nudists and we don't were clothes
at home either.  Do you mind coming to my house?  You know that my Mom and
Dad and brothers wil be there and they'll be naked also." Amy says, "Your
brothers and your father will be naked also, and I'll get to see them and
see their cocks?" I told her absolutely.  I said, "Have you ever seen a
man's cock before, Amy?" She says, "Not a real live one, no, only in a
magazine with naked men in it." I ask her, "Will it bother you seeing my
father and brothers naked?" She says, "Shit, bother me, I'll love it since
I've never seen live cocks before." I told her that I'd tell them that she
was coming tomorrow and tell Ted that he was going to be fucking her
tomorrow.  Just make sure that your mother doesn't find out about this or
we'll all be in trouble.

   She said that she wasn't going to tell anyone about anything.  The next
day after school Amy and I went to my house and went in and seen my father
sitting on the sofa and says, "Oh, My God, Your father is naked.  Holy
shit." I said, "I told you he would be and my brothers too." Amy says, "I
thought you were putting me on, I didn't know that you was serious about
it." I ask her if she minded seeing Dad naked like this?  She says, "No, No
absolutely not I don't mind in the least.  Like I told you I've never seen
a live one before." I told her to go on over and look at it closeup if she
wanted to.

   She went over and got down close to it and looked at it.  I said, "If
you'd like you can touch it or even suck it if you want, he won't mind if
you do that, in fact if you watch it closely and suck it you'll be able to
see it stand up for you." She says, "It would really be all right if I
sucked it?" I told her it'd be all right and that she should lick his balls
and suck one of them into her mouth and rub your tongue all around it, that
really gets him excited.  Then start sucking the shaft of the cock.  I told
her that when he cums to swallow his cum, don't spit it out, that the cum
tastes good and won't harm you.  She says, "You mean that you actually
swallow the stuff that come's out of his cock.  I thought you pissed that
into the toilet."

   I told her that it's piss that goes into the toilet and that this is
altogether different.  She says, "So it is alright to swallow cum, right?
And it won't hurt me, right?  Ok , I'll try it." She goes down and begins
sucking on his balls and sucks one into her mouth and rubs her tongue
around it inside her mouth.  She then lets it go and starts sucking his
cock.  and he cums in her mouth and she does swallow it and says, "Well, I
did it and it doesn't taste that bad, just like you said.  I like licking
his balls." Dad tells her if she liked doing it to go ahead and lick them
some more, that he didn't mind.

   She does and while she is licking Bill's ball Ted comes in and I told
him that Amy had just finished sucking Dad off and wanted to suck his balls
some more.  Amy looks over toward me and see's Ted.  She stops licking
Bill's balls and goes over to Ted and says, "I'm sorry I didn't want you to
see me sucking another man's cock." Ted says, "That's Ok I don't mind you
doing it to Bill, so I hear that you would really love to have me fuck you,
and fuck you while Audrey is pregnant." She says, "Yeah I'd love it if you
would." Ted tells her that before he fucks her that she has to let Audrey's
brothers fuck her first.  So that she knows how to do it.  Actually it was
so that if she was to tell on him or Bill we could say that she was as bad
as us because she had the younger kids fuck her.

   Lloyd fucked her first and stuck his cock into her and she started
screaming.  Ellen says, "Oh, My God she was a virgin." She went and hugged
her and told her that the pain wouldn't last long and she'd never have to
worry about it again.  Lloyd pulls his bloody cock out of her and cleans it
off.  He says, "WOW!  I actually fucked a virgin." Amy says, "I think I'm
OK now most of the pain is gone now.  I'm not sure I want to do this after
all." Ellen says, "It was a one time thing, you never have to worry about
it hurting like that again.  It only happens the first time that you fuck
to break your hymen and once it's broken, then it won't hurt you any more."
She said, "Your sure it won't hurt like that again, when someone fucks me?"


   Ellen says, "No more hurt.  You want Lloyd to finish fucking you now?"
Amy says that she'd like that and that it felt good when he put his cock
into her until he hit whatever it was that he hit and broke.  Lloyd goes
back to fucking her and this time there is no problem and he cums inside
her.  Then Corey fucks her and finally Ted fucks her.  Amy says, "Man that
was the greatest feeling that I have ever had having them fuck me like
that. I asked her if she would like to make money doing that and she said
that she would love doing that and making money at the same time.  She
wanted to know how can she do that and I told her that she could come with
us to the nudist camp.

   She says, "You want me to go to the nudist camp with you?  Oh, I would
love that getting to see all the men walking around naked and see their
cocks swinging back and forth and maybe have hard on's." I told her that
she'd see a lot of that out there.  I then told her that we had a sideline
and also let the people of the camp fuck us, for money.  She says, "Oh, so
that's what you meant by fucking and making money doing it.  Like
prostitutes." I told her that was about it.  That you can really make some
money.  She wanted to know how much could she make and I told her that she
gets $100 for each customer that fucks her.  She says, "I'd get $100 for
everytime someone fucked me.  Man I'd love that.  When can we go?"

   I told her that I'd have to let her know.  Maybe in a week or so.  She
says, "Oh, My Mom probably won't let me go though." I told her to tell her
mother that she was going camping with us, which is the truth because we
were going to the camp.  She says, "Do you think it would be alright if
Cindy came along also?  I think she would love making that kind of money
also.  You've probably heard that she was the harlot of school and would
let anybody fuck her for $10.  She is real nice and a million laughs." I
told her to bring Cindy over here tomorrow and they'd see.  she says, "I
know a couple other girls also.  They are always talking about sex and
would love to have someone fuck them."

   I said to bring them along.  We'd give them a try out.  and see if they
really did like to fuck.  The next day Amy, Cindy, Fran and Doris all come
over to our house.  They all come in and see Mom and Dad and the rest of us
all naked.  We tell them to get undressed and they do with no hesitation at
all.  After they are undressed Fran and Doris wanted to know if they could
look at Dad's cock a little closer.  I told them to go ahead if they wanted
to and that they could touch it and play with it and even suck it if they
wanted to.  Doris says, "You mean that he'll actually let us suck it?" I
said, "Yeah you can suck it and my brothers are over there and you can suck
them also or Ted is also available.  All four girls begins sucking the
various cocks.

   Amy got Ted.  Cindy says, "Alright, what's the catch.  Why are you
letting us do this to you.  Ellen says, "Actually it is a tryout to see if
you really like to suck cock and if you really like to fuck." Cindy says,
"Amy says that we can make a lot of money by doing this.  How much is a
'lot of money'?" I told her that they can make $100 for each person that
fucked them.  Cindy says, "Holy shit, What the fuck are these guys
millionaires?  WOW!  $100 a pop just to fuck me.  And here I've only been
getting $10 to let guys fuck me.  Are you sure that is what they'll pay to
fuck me?" I told her that was what she would get.

   I told her also that the ones that will be fucking her would be movie
stars and TV stars and senators and congressmen.  She says.  "Like who has
been there, anyway?" I told her that Nick Gage, Chad Bitt, Jenny Arnistone.
Sally Barry, James Fix, all kinds of people like that.  Cindy says, "OK,
who wants to fuck me first, I'm ready.  I'll take you all on, one after the
other and I don't mind eating pussy either." Ellen asks, "How about you
other girls, do you have any problem with eating a girls pussy?"

   They all say no that they have done it a lot of times and love doing it.
Fran says, "I've only done it with girls my own age, there wouldn't be any
difference in doing it with an older woman like you would there?" Ellen
says,"Why don't you come over here and give it a try and see if there is a
difference." Fran does and begins eating Ellen's pussy and then says, "It
seems like it's about the same to me.  Only maybe bigger."



   All the girls then gets a boy to fuck them and they have no problem. 
They fuck good and didn't have any hesitation in doing it with the boys. 
They sucked the boys cocks before the guys stuck it in their cunts.  They
all passed the tests and were then told what was going to happen if they
wanted to join them.  They all agreed that they wanted to join and were
looking forward to visiting the nudist camp and getting to see all the
cocks, especially of the movie and TV stars, and the thought of sucking
their cocks and being fucked by them.  The following week they all go out
to the camp.

   They stop off at each of the girls houses and picks them up and Ellen
and Audrey talk to their mothers.  When the mothers ask where they are
planning on going, they say that their not sure where they'll be staying,
but they'll be able to get in touch with their daughter through their cell
phones.  They tell all the mother's about the same story and then start for
the camp.  When they arrive the gatekeeper sees that Bill isn't with them.
Ellen says, "He has to work today and tomorrow and will be here on
Wednesday and the rest of the week.  Also our neighbor and her family will
be coming later, maybe in an hour or so, You know Jane don't you.

   He says, "Oh, Yeah I know her, I've fucked her a couple of times and she
let me have freebies for the warning I gave when the cops came a couple of
months ago.  If you'll pardon me Miss Ellen, I'd sure like to get my cock
into you sometime." Ellen says, "You should have told me how you feel,
Herb, before I leave I'll give you a freebie and also you can have a
freebie from any of these young ladies, if you would like." He says, "Shit
Mam, I'd love to fuck one of these young girls, I love young girls, the
younger the better.  I'd be willing to fuck even a year old baby if I could
get my cock into it."

   Ellen says, "Well we don't have one that young, but maybe I can get you
a girl younger than these if you'd like." He says, "That would be nice."
They proceed on up to the cabins and go to their rooms.  A couple of the
campers come up to Ellen and ask if they are going to open for business and
where's Bill.  She tells them that she wiil be open and Bill will be coming
the day after tomorrow.  She also tells them that she has some nice fresh
young meat for the guys and they have some nice young brothers that we
might bring out the next time we come out.

   Audrey, Ted Louise and Janet shows the newcomers how the operation works
and about the different color tickets and what they mean.  Audrey and the
girls go to their part of the mess hall and Ted and the boys go to their
part.  Before long there is a line waiting to get into one or the other. 
After about 10 minutes Audrey turns the selling of tickets to Doris.  She
goes into the room where the other girls are and says lets get started. 
Ted does the same thing and his business is also open.  Most of the
customers choose the new girls to fuck and be sucked by.

   Cindy says, "Shit I've been doing almost nothing but fucking for almost
four hours now.  I didn't know that it would be this much work to do.  At
least I made plenty of money doing it though." Amy says, "I'm with you, I'm
getting a little wore out and my pussy is starting to get a little sore
from all the cocks fucking me."They all stop for lunch and Audrey asks how
it's going and they tell her that their pussies are getting sore from all
the fucking.  Audrey tells them that if they'd like they could take the
rest of the afternoon off and rest their pussies so that they can fuck
again tomorrow.

   Cindy and Amy say that they think they will rest for a couple hours
maybe and maybe return later after they rest up.  After about three hours
they both return and start fucking once more.  They go for about another
four hours until it was time to eat supper.  Cindy says to Audrey and Amy,
"I must be getting used to this now, I feel much better now than this
morning.  By tomorrow I'll probably be able to fuck all day long and my
pussy will be OK.  The day finally ends and Cindy counts up her money that
she earned for the day, by counting the tickets.  She says, "Holy shit, No
wonder my pussy is sore, I fucked 23 guys today and had my pussy eaten 31
times.Wher the fuck did I put that chart with the prices on it.  Oh, Here
it is.  Let's see now, ticket prices.



   TICKET PRICES ARE AS FOLLOWS

   ADULTS KIDS

   POSING White $20 Gray $10

   SUCKING Red $30 Orange $15

   FUCKING Green $50 Yellow $20



   I've got 16 Green tickets, 7 Yellow tickets, so that's 23 men and boys
that fucked me today.  Let's see now I have 26 White and 20 Gray tickets,
and 31 Red and 31 Orange Tickets.  So let's see green is $800, Holy shit,
what the fuck am I going to do with all this money.  Yellow is 7 so that's
$140, White is $520, Gray is $200, Red is $930 and Orange is $465.  So I
made, Holy shit, $3055 for just one day.  I don't believe it.  Shit, How am
I going to keep this money hidden from Mom and Dad?  Shit, If they catch me
with this much money, their'll know that something is fishy and something
is going on.  Hey Amy, have you figured out how much you made today?"

   Amy says, "Yeah I just got finished and your not going to believe it, I
made $2385.  What the fuck did you make?  Cindy says, "I made $3055.  I
don't know what the fuck I'm going to do with the money.  If Mom and Dad
catches me with it they'll know that I've been up to something illegal."
Amy says, "Yeah, I know what you mean, I was thinking the same thing. 
Let's go see Audrey and see what she thinks.  They go to see Audrey and
tell her the situation.  She says, "Well Don't forget that I get a 10% cut
of what you made.  I have a suggestion if you'd want to do it and trust me.
Give me the money and I'll have Mom put it in the bank in a saving account
and when you want some money we'll just give it to you and deduct it from
you savings."

   Amy and Cindy talk it over and and decide that it is probably the best
thing to do.  Audrey say, You don't have to worry about it now.  Wait to
see how many tickets you have at the end of the week and we'll figure it
what you made minus my 10%.  With you making $3000 today alone by the end
of the week you'll have quite the sum of money.  No wonder you need to get
it out of sight from your Mom and Dad.  Me, with the condition I'm in not
too many guys want to fuck me.

   They still want to see me spread my pussy open and their still willing
to eat my pussy, but only a few wants to fuck me.  I'll talk to Mom about
maybe opening an extra account at the bank and have her put your money in
there." You had better get to sleep, You'll have a big day again tomorrow."
They go to bed, but eat each others pussies first.



   The next morning the wake about 6:00 and get up and get ready for
breakfast.  When breakfast is ready the go and begin eating.  They are
about half way through breakfast and Cindy's cell phone rings and it's her
mother.  She wants to talk to Ellen.  Ellen takes the phone and talks to
her and and tells her that there's a restaurant down the road and she would
meet them there in about an hour.  She gives Cindy back her cell and says,
"Cindy, I hate to have to tell you this but you Grandma Wilson has died and
You Mom and Dad needs to go to her funeral and wants you to go to.  I'm
going to take you to the restaurant down the road and meet them there.

   You need to get a few blouses and some shorts out of your suitcase and
crumple them up and dirty them so that it looks like you've been wearing
them.  If they find that you haven't been wearing them, they'll wonder what
you have been wearing or not wearing.  I'll get you a bag to put your dirty
clothes in and you pick out what you want to meet them in.  As for your
tickets, give them to me and I'll put them in a envelope so they'll be safe
and you'll get credit for what you did yesterday.  You had a good day, a
very good day.  It's a shame that you'll miss out on the rest of the week.
You could have really made some money this week."

   While Cindy is getting ready and then when she is ready to go Audrey
decides to go with her while she is being taken to meet her parents. 
Meanwhile, In her parents car her Mom and Dad are talking.  He says, "Boy
they went out far enough into the woods to camp.  She says, "Well where do
you think their going to camp on the edge of the city park maybe." He says,
I think it's only about 5 miles more down the road and there's a nudist
camp.  Now that's the kind of camping that I'd like to go camping at. 
Seeing all those nice girls appeals to you, don't it."

   She says, "Well, I wouldn't mind going there sometime and see all the
guys swinging cocks there." He says, "Why don't we see about maybe going in
a couple weeks after we get back, and see how it goes out there." They get
to the restaurant and and Ellen and Cindy and Audrey are waiting for them.
They talk a little bit and leave.  Ellen and Audrey go back to camp and
then start their day, as usual.  The next day Bill comes out and Thursday
Frank makes it out there.  They finish up the week and go back home on
Sunday.  Cindy calls and tells them that she and her parents are back. 
Audrey tells her that the figured it out as for her tickets and minus her
10% she has $2,750.

   Cindy says, "Good, why don't you go ahead and do what we were talking
about doing with it.  I'll talk to you tomorrow.  The next day she asks
Audrey if they plan on going out there again anytime soon.  Audrey tells
her that it will probably be next week or the week after.  As it turns out
they decide to go the week after and Cindy asks if she can go camping again
since she didn't really get much last time.  Her mother says that she can
go for the week since she missed out before.

   Her mother, Florence tells John, her husband.  "We have it made, Cindy
is going camping again with the James Family, so that gives us a chance to
go to the nudist colony." He says, "Great, My cock is starting to twitch
already just thinking about seeing all them pussies and cocks walking
around out there.The following week Bill and Ellen and the kids picks Cindy
up at her house.  They go straight to the camp and get ready to open for
business.  Meanwhile Cindy's parents are on their way to the camp and stop
at the gate, Herb asks them,"What can I do for you?" They tell him that
they want to join the nudist colony.  John tells him that he has wanted to
come to one for years and finally talked the wife into coming also.

   Herb says, I'll bet that you want to see all yhe young pussy around here
and your wife wants to see the swinging cocks.  John says, "Yeah That's
about the size of it.  Herb tells them to go to cabin 27.  They go to #27
and settle in.  Florence is queasy about going out there and letting people
see her naked.  He decides to brave it and go out.  He tells her that if
she decides to come out that he would probably be out by the pool.  He goes
out and as he goes out and starts to walk around Bill meets him.

   BIll says, "You must be the new residents and first timers, Welcome. 
I'm Bill, and I own this camp." John says, "Well I must say you have a
beatiful camp here, I've only been here a little while but I love the looks
of the scenery.  Bill says, "Yes, I can see that you like the looks of the
scenery the way that your cock is sticking out.  Don't worry about it. 
Most nudist camps frown on the guys having hard on's at the camp.  It don't
bother us around here though and don't really care.  We know why your here,
to see all the young pussy in the camp, right?" John says, "Well, Yes I do
enjoy see all these nice young girls walking around.  My wife will enjoy
seeing all the swinging cocks."

   Bill says, She'll also see a lot of them as their standing tall also, if
she don't mind seeing those."John says, "That won't bother her any, she
loves big cocks and the bigger the better.  I love the young girls, the
younger the better." Bill says, "So you like young pussy, huh?" John says,
Yeah, I don't care how young they are as long as their old enough to have
titties and hair on their pussy.  Bill says, "I hope I'm not making a
mistake but, how would you like to fuck some of the young girls around her.
Your wife would also be able to be fucked by some of the young boys, if
she'd like." John says, "Holy shit, You mean that I could actually get to
fuck some of that young stuff?

   How much would it cost to get one of the young girls.  Bill says, "Well
the have a set price and they'll pose for you for $20 and that consists of
her fingering their pussy and them spreading it open and letting you get a
few inches away from it and if you like you can have a couple licks of her
pussy.  Then if you want her to suck your cock, it will be $30 more and If
you want to fuck her it will be $50 more.  So actually you get the whole
package for $100.

   John says, "Shit, I'd love to do that, who do I pay the $100 to, you? 
Bill tells him to go over to the mess hall and Tell them that Bill J.  sent
you and it was OK.  and they'll take care of you.  I'll be going and hope
you enjoy your stay." John says, "If you have this around here, I know I'll
enjoy the stay.' he goes to the mess hall and tells them that Bill J.  sent
me and said that it was OK.  Doris asks him what package he wanted and he
says he want the full bundle with the fucking, maybe I shouldn't say that
since your so young looking.  Doris says, "I'm 11 years old and I've been
fucked a lot of times already.  I know all the dirty words and what they
mean, so you don't have to worry about sayin fuck in front of me.  I'm used
to it."

   Here's your tickets.  Go on into the first room there and you can take
your pick of any of the girls when they are finished with the client that
their with.  He goes into the room and see all the guys asses as they are
fucking the girls.  One of the guys gets finished and leaves and the one he
was fucking was Amy, She sees him and motions to him but doesn't recognize
him.  A few minutes later and another guy gets finished and leaves and the
girl gets up and she sees him, "HOLY SHIT, DADDY." What the fuck are you
doing here and naked."

   He says, "I'm the one that should be asking that question of you.  What
the fuck are you doing here and fucking like this?  I'm working Daddy, I'm
making good money here." Yeah I know It cost me $100 to fuck you." She
begins laughing and says You paid $100 to fuck me.  She says,"Well you
don't want to waste your $100 on me, I'll give it to you free at home
anytime.  That is my girlfriend Amy, Thats Fran and thats Doris, their all
my friends and you can fuck them anytime at home.Take one of these other 3
girls Greta is 11, Rose is 12, and Mary is 12 also.

   How young do you want to go Dad." He tells here that he would like to go
with Greta, since she's the youngest.  Cindy asks him if he thinks that he
could fuckm a couple of them.  He tells her that he didn't know but would
like to try.  The man with Greta finishes and leaves.  He goes with her and
she spreads her pussy open and and then takes his cock and starts sucking
it and then tells him to fuck her." He does.  While he is fucking her Cindy
goes to Mary, whose guy was finished and left and tells her that he was her
father and she wants him to fuck her when he is done with Greta.  He may
take a little extra sucking to get him charged, Cindy gives her the three
tickets to take care of the fucking of her father.

   Later after he is finished with Greta and Mary, they both go out and
head for their cabin.  On the way they meet, Ellen, Audrey and Florence. 
Florence says, "Well, did you fuck her." He says, "No I did not, I fucked
two other girls.  I would have loved to fuck her but Cindy wouldn't let me.
She said that there was no reason to pay $100 to fuck her when I can have
her at home whenever I want for nothing.  There were 3 other girls also
that she said that I could fuck at home and there wouldn't be any charge.
Florence says, "Just what do you charge, to be fucked Cindy?"

   She tells her that it costs $100 to fuck her." Florence says, "Shit, How
many guys fuck you in a day?" She says, I don't know I'd have to count my
tickets.  She says, I gave Mary three of my tickets to have her give Dad an
extra fuck of her." John says, "You mean you paid her an extra $100 dollars
so that I could fuck Mary.  Cindy said, "That week that Grandma died the
one day that I was here I Made $2,750 for the day." Florence says, "Holy
shit, you make that much.  Maybe I should get into this also."

   Ellen says, "If you'd like to do it we can alway used a good looking
woman.  I can tell you that you won't make as much as the young people but
we do make a fair amount of money." Florence says, "You mean it that I
could join you all into the fucking." Ellen says, "Do you mind if a woman
wants to eat your pussy or a guy want to fuck you in the asshole." She
says, "Shit I don't mind any of that." Ellen says , "OK you're hired, How
about you John, would you like to go to work also.  Oh, By the way since
you'll be working here we'll refund the money you paid when you came in."

   John says, "Shit yes , I'll go to work too.  Too get to fuck all these
women, I'd be willing to fuck for free.  She tells him, "I must warn you
that you might meet up with a gay guy that wants to suck or fuck you, would
that be a problem?  He says, "Shit no, I'd love it also." She says, "Then
You're hired also."

   Just then the lights begin to blink on and off.  Everyone finishes what
they are doing and goes outside and walks around ahd the kids stop and
covert their little beds into chairs and begins listening to Bible stories.
The cops get up to the camp andand look around after serving the warrant to
inspect to camp.  They spent about an hour looking around but they couldn't
find a thing.  They end up leaving, after not finding anything.  Everyone
goes back to what they were doing.

   Ellen says, That's just a little glitch that we have to put up with
every so often, but I think it'll be a whild before they find another judge
to sign a search warrant again.  A couple months later I had my baby and 4
months later Cindy and Amy also had a baby.  We're each going to prepare
the babies and get there pussies stretched so that they'll take a cock into
them and when we have them big enough then we'll have them at the camp also
have thaem as specials for anyone that wants to fuck them for $300, I'm
sure that there will be plenty of takers even at that price.  Mom and
Florence both took care of Herb the gatekeeper and let him fuck them for
free every time that they came out to the camp.  And also let them fuck
little Doris, Audrey's little sister also











   Bill and Ellen James Audrey, Cory, Ed, Lloyd, Doris 14, 12, 10, 13, 11,
Jane, Frank Ted, Louise, Janet.  Tommy, 15, 13, 11, 10, Amy, Cindy, Fran,
Doris, 14, 15, 14, 14, Herb the Gatekeeper