Subject: P&W Digest archive/v1n24
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 89 15:16:04 EDT

Perverts and Weirdos Digest, v.1 #24 (ROT13)	Sun Dec  4 01:19:22 EST 1988


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Table of Contents:

1. Centurions and bondage equipment - Kat (Source for bondage toys)
2. Mandrake Gestures Hypnotically and... - Mandrake (Hypnoseduction)
3. Photos - Robert & Susan (Discussion on distributing photos)
4. Replies to mail, self-restraint and vibrators - Robert & Susan
5. Restraint Recommendations? - Cuffs (Request for bondage info)

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Date: Tue Nov 29 12:40:34 EST 1988
From: Kat
Subject: Centurions and bondage equipment
Contact: kat

  In digest 1.20, Michael said,

>     An article in P&W Digest 1.17 mentioned Centurions as a source of supply
>for bondage equipment.  Unfortunately, Centurions went bankrupt last year
>after many years in the business (hard to believe with their prices - or is
>that perhaps the reason?)

  While Centurions went out of business, they (or at least what they sell)
have been taken over by a company called Spartacus.  Correspondance (orders, 
inquiries, etc.) can be sent to:

Spartacus or Transformation Pleasure House
P.O. Box 429
Orange, Ca.  92666
   They can be reached at (714) 971-1113.  

   A flyer lists the address of their 3000 sq. ft. store as:
Pleasure House Boutique
1830 S. Anaheim Blvd.
Anaheim, Ca.  92804
(714) 533-4767

   I have no idea whether this store is still open (anyone in the area, how
about driving by it and letting the rest of us know if in fact it is still
open?), although newer brochures advertise franchise opportunities, and thinking
back to a recent flyer which mentioned the ability to order directly from the
store, I guess I would say that they probably are open.

   I've ordered from them once (just catalogs, no actual items yet).  The
only problem I had (a minor one) was that they issued me a credit slip for 
an item that was out of stock (or print, I forget which).  I mention it because
I used a credit card to order the mechandise, so I would have thought that
they just would have charged my account for the items they were able to ship.
You should be away (or ask) about this if you order anything expensive.  I
know that I wouldn't want a credit slip for one or two hundred dollars.  I
placed my order through the mail; I don't know whether I would have avoided 
this problem if I ordered my stuff over the phone.
   I think I have their most recent catalog (actually, it's a catalog that
lists all their other catalogs, so to order, you would have to get their
main catalog, order the specific catalog from that, and then order the 
mechandise from the specific catalog), so if anyone has any questions, feel
free to drop me a line.

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Date: Wed, 30 Nov 88 18:44:36 MST
From: Mandrake
Subject: Mandrake Gestures Hypnotically and ...

   I work at a large computer company.  About eight months ago, we hired a
new programmer.  Short, with broad hips, a baby face, and a massive chest.
I watched her constantly.  I wanted nothing more than to put my hands under her
blouse and play with those tits--to squeeze them, to rub them, to bounce them
up and down, to stick my head underneath her blouse and suck on them, to rub my
cock between them until I came!

   Unfortunately for this, I'm married, which restricts my non-wife sex life.
However, a solution arrived.

   I first studied hypnotism back in college, when I would help other students
who had trouble concentrating on their studying.  After putting the student
into a light hypnotic state, I would tell the student that the phrase "study
time" would put them into a state of intense concentration until they were
finished with whatever they were studying.  It worked well with most people; it
helped them avoid distraction.  Of course, the student was only in a very light
hypnotic state, and always aware of their surroundings.

   About a month ago, a happened to be attending a party given by a girl who
works down the hall from me.  It was fun, with lots of people, and good stuff
to drink & smoke.  About 12:30, my wife (who was pretty wasted) suggested that
I should hypnotize some people for a laugh.  She told our hostess about it, and
I got talked into it.  I wasn't very good, but a lot of the people were in a
pretty mellow frame of mind, so it had a chance.  Our hostess called for
volunteers, and got:  herself, my wife (whom I've never been able to
hypnotize), two guys, and my baby-faced friend (I didn't know she was there at
all).  I got the music turned down, and did my best.  My wife was, as usual,
unhypnotizable.  I think that our hostess went under, but she might have been
faking.  Miss Baby-Face went under quickly (she'd been smoking a _lot_, that
probably helped), as did one of the two guys.

   I had them do the usual hypnotism-party-tricks, like making your arm stiff,
perching between two chairs, etc.  Most of these are physiological tricks to
convince the subject that they're really hypnotized.  After those, I had them
sing, pretend to be animals, and that kind of stuff.  I suggested to them that
the guy's cock had become four feet long, and watched to subject girls pretend
that they weren't looking.  One of them sat down next to him and put her hand
on his "cock", about at his knees!  I told the girls that their tits became
enormous, like two feet in diameter, and had them juggle them, which was fun to
watch.

   When the show was about over, I told them all that when I said "complex" to
them, they would relax and fall asleep again.  I told those that had SO's to be
particularly good to them that night (you should have seen the grins in the
audience!), woke them up, and sent them back to their seats.  After about a
minute, I loudly said "complex", and they all fell asleep in mid-sentence.
This was good for a laugh; I woke them back up and told them to enjoy the
party.

   Well, the temptation was too much.  I cornered Miss Baby-Face in the kitchen
when nobody was watching, and said "complex" to her.  I suggested that we
should go for a walk around the block.  During the walk, I reinforced the
suggestion, told her that she would trust me, and suggested that, after I woke
her up, that she should invite me over for lunch tomorrow.  I woke her up, and
on the way back to the party, she invited me to lunch at her apartment the next
day.

   The next day, I showed up at her apartment and wasted no time putting her
under.  I suggested to her that I was her lover who had come back to her after
being overseas for a year, and she wanted nothing more than to make me happy.
She showered me with kisses, and told me how happy she was to have me back.
She pulled her cotton shirt over head, and revealed those lovely tits.  I asked
her to remove her bra.  She reached around and unclasped her bra, letting her
beautiful tits spring out.  She pulled my face down to her nipples.  I kissed,
sucked and licked them for about twenty minutes.  They were mine, at last!
Eventually, I told her to take my cock out.  She did, licking it as it sprung
out.  I took the rest of my clothes off, pushed her gently down on the rug, and
mounted her tits.  They were slippery from being licked and sucked.  I pushed
my cock between her tits for a few minutes, while she held them tight around my
cock.  She smiled and said how much she'd missed me, and how she wanted my cock
in her pussy.  I soon came from the rubbing that her tits were giving me.  To
clean up, I stuck my cock (covered with come from her tits) in her mouth,
between those sweet baby-face lips, and she licked it off.

   I spent a half-hour or so recuperating by sucking on her tits some more,
and then we put her on her hands and knees on the bed and I rammed her into her
pussy from behind (I've had a vascetomy, so no problem there).  I suggested to
her that she would come when I did.  The sight of that beautiful bottom, those
big tits swinging back and forth, and hearing her moaning and calling my name
soon did it to me.  I told her that I was coming, and so did she.  Once again,
she cleaned off my cock between her baby-face lips.

   I wanted to have her ride me, with those gorgeous big tits bouncing in front
of my face, but I was spent for the moment.  I had to get going, so I suggested
that she would forget all about the fact that I had visited her at all, which
she did.

   I now have her about once a day at work now.  I call her on the phone, and
say our secret signal.  This tells her to meet me in a little-used bathroom in
the basement.  When we get there, she removes her blouse & bra, drops to her
knees, and wraps her baby-face lips around my cock and sucks on it until I come
into her mouth.  I then suggest to her that she will forget all about this, and
that she will go back to work in a few minutes.

   Occasionally, when my wife goes out of town on business, I will suggest to
my baby-faced slave that she should spend the weekend with me.  Sometimes, I
suggest that I am her husband, or sometimes we are Sultan and Harem Girl.
Whatever situation, we sleep every night with my face between her big tits or
with her baby-face lips wrapped around my cock.

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Date: Thu, 1 Dec 88 01:38:14 EST
From: Robert & Susan
Subject: Photos
Contact: robert1

Sorry to get all your hopes up with the PBM post.  I had assumed that
it would be posted all or nothing.  I really am making efforts to get
the images available to the public, but I simply have no way to send
Email anonymously, so I can't reply directly to Email.  If you want to
receive a personal reply to your mail, please include a US mail address,
and I will answer with a real honest to goodness letter.

To those who have offered to try redistributing one or more photos
either by mail, FTP, or post (Stuart, Joe, Paul, and Robert) in the
last two months, send a physical address to

	inco!alembic!robert1

and indicate whether you can read 9 track (1600 or 6250) or 1/4" tapes.


The same goes for people who are willing to "borrow" a tape and then
pass it on the the next person on a list.  If we can get a "chain
letter" thing going with tapes, then we can liberate these bits for
the masses.

--
Robert
inco!alembic!robert1

[[ I guess I violated my own rule about not censoring or modifying
contributions, but I never expected to have to deal with bitmap images,
nor did I realize the potential risk involved. I should have checked
with Robert & Susan before posting the censored version. Next time...
- dm ]]

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Date: Thu, 1 Dec 88 02:31:59 EST
From: Robert and Susan
Subject: Replies to mail, self-restraint and vibrators
Contact: robert1

From: A reader named Phil

> I have been thinking about you and Susan, not at presant having an outlet
> of my own for bondage type games, I was wondering if you had ever tried 
> something like this:
>
> Have the slave go home earlier than you, scolding her for some unappropriate
> behavior, and tell her to go into the house and lock it. Then she is to 
> proceed to the bedroom, where she must tie her legs (widely?) appart across 
> the bed. Then she must blindfold herself, and finally, she must handcuff
> herself to the headboard. There, you explain, she is to think about her
> infraction, until you arive.
>
> The basic thing that I am wondering (not having much experience in this area)
> is not the pose, but the idea of her tieing herself up, and then having to
> wait. (This was just something that had occurred to me :-)

Yes, this is often part of our bondage play.  Handcuffs are very useful
for this kind of activity, because they can be locked without the key,
and the act of clicking them shut is irreversible.

One game we play is for her to restrain herself with handcuffs and/or
leg irons, with or without gag and blindfold, without her knowing in
advance how long she will be bound.

But I never have Susan do this unless I am either in the house or
working outside.  The idea of coming home from work to a handcuffed
slave is very appealing, but how can I assure that the house won't
catch on fire while she's bound?  To quote from a random bondage
magazine:

	a willing partner is too precious to take risks with

> Also, have you two ever used a vibrator as a plug? If so, did you consider 
> the results favorable?

Not really.  We have a variety of rubber palluses (dildos), some of
which can be tied, belted, or otherwise attached so they don't come
out, and a "Joni's Butterfly" vibrator that straps over the mons and
clit.  But Susan says that using a penis shaped vibrator inside the
vagina is simply a male fantasy.  She says that having a vibrator
inside her vagina is not really a pleasurable experience for her (or
most women).  I do use it as a punishment, but I usually hold it in by
hand (or require her to).

--
Robert and Susan
inco!alembic!robert1

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Date: Thu, 1 Dec 88 19:00:45 EST
From: Cuffs
Subject: Restraint Recommendations?

I'm interested in acquiring some bondage equipment, but I am extremely
leary of using a mail-order service.  For one thing, one can't see
before one buys.  And I do not trust such institutions to not fill my
mailbox with unwanted junk.  There some mailing lists I don't mind
being on, but sexually-oriented ones make me nervous for a variety of
reasons.

Robert and Susan have talked about equipment they have fashioned
themselves, and others have talked of home-made bondage paraphanelia.
Is there such a thing as a book that has suggestions, instructions,
ideas, hints, patterns, or anything else that would be helpful for
making bondage material?

Imagination is a wonderful thing, and I and my SO have done some nifty
things with cloth belts and tiny padlocks, but the voice of experience
would be welcomed....

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