Subject: Perverts and Weirdos Digest, v.1 #20 (ROT13)
Date: 24 Nov 88 00:16:59 GMT

Perverts and Weirdos Digest, v.1 #20 (ROT13)	Wed Nov 23 19:16:46 EST 1988


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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 88 12:17:41 EDT
From: Eddie
Subject: More family fun
Contact: eddiep

I enjoyed malebox's description of the quasi-incestuous experience he had with
his wife, stepdaughter, and her boyfriend.  I'm not sure I believe it, but that
is, I guess, part of what makes reading letters like that interesting-- trying
to figure out whether it really happened or not.  (For those of you unfamiliar
with the article, it appeared in P&W Digest Vol. 1, No. 8. as "Family fun".)

I am interested in hearing more about NON-COERCIVE incestuous or quasi-
incestuous experiences that others reading this have had.  Does it turn you on
to think about it? Also, if you have not had any such experiences, but fantasise
about them, I would like to hear those fantasies too.  Recommendations of
erotica with this theme are welcomed too.  Have you ever shared or acted out
your fantasies in a non-incestuous situation?

I will post some of my own fantasies shortly, when I can determine whether
PWDigest still exists or not.  By the way, please give me a contact line of
"eddiep".

Eddie Puss

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Date: Sat, 22 Oct 88 16:44:58 EST
From: Anonymous
Subject: Menage a Twat


     I have been dating the same guy for three years.  I love him more
than I can express with words....But sometimes I feel like we need something
a little out of the ordinary to keep things spicy!  I mentioned one day to him
that I had had a 'rape' fantasy.  Not where I was in any threat of physical
danger, and not truly raped...but a little forced by the one I love!  (PLease,
i am NOT condoning rape!!!!)
     Lately Brad didn't seem to be particularly appreciative of me.  I
felt a little taken for granted.  Brad had been spending all day and night
on homework, etc.....
     He invited an old friend , who I had never met up for the weekend.
Brad knew Jeff in high school.  I was a little nervous, because I had heard
that Jeff was a little critical, to say the least!!
    Friday came, and I met Jeff.  he was very good looking, in a blonde
way....And seemingly very aggresive.  He looked me up and down like
hamburger in the meat aisle..(sorry for the analogy!!!)  And he
and Brad took off to the local bars.  I was feeling very sorry for
myself, and decided to make Brad take a little notice.
    When they came home, I was wearing a short mini skirt and a guinea
tee without benefit of a bra, I wore a sweatshirt over the tee shirt though..
didn't want to be too obvious!!!  I wasn't wearing any underwear, and
when I sat down on the end of the couch facing Jeff, next to Brad, I
spread my legs just a little bit so Jeff could see my wet pussy.  He looked
immediately...and brad, not knowing why I was being stared at, decided to
ignore Jeff's apparant interest.  I asked Brad to start a fire, and I went
and made us some drinks and cheese and crackers.  We all sat down to enjoy
our rented movie.  When it started getting warm...benefit of the fireplace...
I started to take off my sweatshirt....My nipples were hard and
begging to be sucked......Brad looked a little suprised...and Jeff looked
like he was gaining a huge erection.  I beant over to give Brad a
kiss, and thus showed Jeff a very curvy and delicious view.  I offered
to freshen up our drinks, and went to the kitchen.  Jeff followed me,
seemingly to help me.
     As soon as we got to the kitchen, Jeff said to me, "why are you
showing off your gorgeous tits and ass??  Trying to make brad jealous?
I don't care...I am enjoying the play."  He pulled me up next to him
and pressed me into his hips so I could feel his hard on.  He lifted me
onto the edge of the sink and told me he wanted to see what my tits looked
like when the were wet.  making use of the dish washing shower hose thing...
He sprayed freezing water accross my chest, soaking my tee shirt.  He told
me I had Penthouse tits.  He asked me if I liked having my nipples iced..
And then he showed me what that felt like by spredaing an ice cube over
my already painfully hard nipples.  i was so incredibly ready to be
fucked.  I never wanted to be fucked as much as I did at the moment.  He
pinched my nipples hard...I love when guys do that..and he told me to unzip
his jeans...when i hesitated he put his fingers into my soaked pussy and
teased me outside my underwear..until out of sheer desperation I unloosed
his cock from his jeans.  I begged him to finger me...but he kept pulling
my panties accross my clit telling me if I sucked his cock real good
he would finger me.  I told him I couldn't do anymore....I loved Brad...
this had gone far enough....He fingered me then and made me forget what
I was saying.  I was so wet he used the juices to lubricate my ass, and
plunged a finger into my ass.  It felt so incredible..all I could
think of was wanting to go down on him...but I didn't want him to stop....
He asked me if I liked my pussy sucked,,,I nodded and he slipped his face
between my legs and sucked me and finger fucked me till I thought I could
stand no more.  I was having trouble biting back my screams.  Just
then Brad wanted to know what was taking so long.  Jeff and I walked
out to the living room..and Brad looked at my hard wet tits and asked
what was going on and Jeff said...."I finger fucked her in her
dripping pussy and ass...I sucked her pussy and tits..and she hasn't
even touched me...you haven't taught her very well Brad."  Brad nodded
and told me to go down on Jeff...I resisted when Brad took ice from his
drink and rubbed it over my sore nipples until i promised to give jeff
the blowjob of his life.  I slipped to my knees...and took off Jeff's
jeans and underwear...he warned me I better do very good.  I didn't
know if I could as he was so large.  I used my hands and mouth as best
i could, until i felt Brad's fingers in my pussy and his mouth kissing my
ass.  that made me start going down on Jeff with a vegeance.  Jeff asked
Brad if he could fuck me..Brad considered it, and i yelled, "NO!"  Brad
told him I wanted to be raped here it was....Brad grabbed me and
pushed me over the chaise lounge and spread eagled my legs to the
breaking point.  Jeff delved his face between my legs and told me how
delicious I was...He tried to kiss me with my juices still on his
face...I turned my head to avoid the kiss and he grabbed my hair and
said "taste yourself...see why I want to fuck you till you scream."
Brad looked more aroused than I had ever seen him..we never talked
dirty to one another.  He was enjoying the show..and I think he was a
bit jealous.  Jeff rubbed the head of his enormous cock all around my
pussy and ass..he told me to beg for it.  When I didn't, he dragged me
off to the shower, and tied my hands over my head on the shower head,
and ripped off my shirt while Brad removed my skirt.  He held the shower
head on full pulse to my pussy and took it away everytime I approached
orgasm..he told me to beg if I wanted a cock in my pussy.  He took the
bath oil from the shower cart and spilled it onto my tits..."I have
never seen tits like this...you are a lucky guy Brad.  She has fucking
huge nipples...."  he massaged the oil into my breasts..and I betrayed
myself by moaning.  He told me i was ready to be fucked.  He turned me
around and spread my cheeks and lips and started to put his huge cock
into my soaked pussy...It hurt like hell...but it felt like heaven too!
Brad turned me to face him and offered me his gorgeous erection..I sucked
and sucked all the more cause i was also being fucked.....Jeff pulled out
and told me to beg...to go down on him...I obliged him and Brad took
his place in my cunt.  Brad rubbed my clit and Jeff squeezed my tits and
picnhed my nipples....I kept moaning till i couldn;t hold back and
then I almost screamed for Brad to pump me as hard and fast as he could.
Jeff plunged into my mouth and Brad came in great big waves.  Jeff pulled
out of my mouth and slammed into my pussy...wher Brad's cum was sliding
down my thighs..and I orgasmed three or four times.....It was quite and
evening.  
     After that evening, Jeff went to our bed with us and cuddled.  It
was uncomfortable in the morning when he left..and Brad was still
feeling a little betrayed by my obvious enjoyment.  But is certainly
spiced up our sex life......And I love Brad even more for indulging
me.  That's all for now!!!!  thanks for letting me write this.

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Date: Mon, 24 Oct 88 00:43:20 EDT
From: Robert & Susan
Subject: Public bondage costumes
Contact: robert1

As I wrote in an earlier post, Susan really doesn't like playing
bondage games of any sort in public.  She gets embarassed just going
braless.  But we have had a few discipline sessions which involved
public appearance (if not exposure).  For one excursion, We invented
a "public bondage dress" that I believe is unique.

A lot of bondage fiction (and I suspect more than a little bondage
fact) revolves around the simple idea of draping a coat or sweater over
a pair of bound hands.  The victim can walk around inconspicuously and
still be bound in public.  But in reality this idea has one problem:
If her hands are bound in front (the most natural way to carry a
sweater), she has too much freedom.  Hands bound in front are almost
not bound at all.  If her hands are bound in back, she looks awkward,
and may be discovered.

Our solution started with a calf-length cotton dress with long loose
sleeves.  The dress is a light blue, with buttons completely down the
front.  There were originally two diagonal cut side pockets, but Susan
cut the bottoms out of the pockets, for use as described later.  She
also put small button holes on the insides of the elbows, with matching
button holes on the sides of the dress.

These holes allow small elbow cuffs to be attached to a leather harness
worn under the dress.  The connecting link is a 1/8 inch thick nylon
cord (chain or metal would be too noisy).  This holds her arms at her
sides, and since the sleeves are very loose, the folds tend to hide the
connecting line.  Her hands may be left free or bound in front with the
proverbial sweater thrown over for cover.  But the most interesting
possiblity is to put them through the cut out pockets and cuff them to
a waist/chastity belt also worn under the dress.  Since the dress is
fairly long, her knees can be hobbled as well, constraining her gait.

She has been forced to wear it in public only once, walking through a
nearby park.  Since the attachments all tie (instead of clipping or
snapping), she had to be harnessed in at home.  First she stripped
naked, then she put on her own homemade leather harness.  This device
starts with a steel ring between her breasts.  Two straps go upwards
from the ring over her shoulders and buckle in back.  One strap goes
down from the ring over her belly, through her crotch and up her back.
There are three horizontal belts: one below the breasts, one above the
waist at elbow level, and one at the waist.  These all belt in the
back, and do not have locking clasps.  Since her hands are bound in
front, there is no need for the harness to lock.  After she put on the
harness, I strapped on her elbow cuffs (they fit around the upper arm
just above the elbow), and also a small pair of wrist cuffs.  The wrist
cuffs close with tiny padlocks, because she can reach the clasps with
the opposite hand when her wrists are bound together.  The elbow cuffs
have 1 foot lengths of the nylon cord already attached.  Then I told
her to put the dress on, but to leave it unbuttoned.  After she had it
on, I threaded the nylon cords through the button holes and tied the
ends to the third horizontal belt in her harness.  I made sure the
elbow cuffs were snubbed close to her body.

I had her put her hands through the pockets, and then I locked each
wrist cuff to a metal ring that slides up and down on the crotch strap
from her harness.  This movement allows her to both sit and stand
normally, and to the rest of the world she would look like just another
woman with her hands in her pockets.

Before buttoning up her dress,  I made sure that everything was securely
fastened by fondling her nipples and pussy until she squirmed to my
satisfaction.  Then I buttoned up the dress, leaving the top three
buttons open (I'd have liked to leave more open, but then the harness
straps would have shown).  I made up for that by leaving most of the
buttons on the skirt undone.  That way her thighs would show if she
walked too fast or the wind blew a little.

For her, the hardest part was getting in and out of the car without
falling over.  Without her hands to help, she had to back into her seat
and then turn around.  Of course I had to fasten her seat belt for her
(a little government sponsored bondage there).  Then we drove to a
small park in a neighboring town.  In plain view of two dozen people
she walked around the lake restrained by a bondage harness and with no
underwear.  The best part was that I could fondle her indiscriminately
and she couldn't free her hands to stop me.  To the crowd we must have
looked like a couple of oversexed young lovers (which we are), but no
one seemed to pay us any extra attention.

After we drove home, I left her bound and harnessed, but I did unbutton
the dress completely, and left her that way the rest of the afternoon.
Such a lovely view was was a splendid way to warm up to an evening of
love making.

--
Robert & Susan
inco!alembic!robert1

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Date: Mon, 24 Oct 88 15:52:54-1000
From: Michael
Subject: self-restraint emergencies

	I am not into bondage and would prefer a wider range of
topics. Still, PWDigest is one of the more interesting things on
the nets.
	I am impressed with some of the cleverness shown by the
previous contributers.  Specifically the idea of freezing the
key into a block of ice  by "A Man" in a self-bondage situation is
quite imaginative.
	In a posting by "bill1" he asked about the problem of safety
in self-bondage.  I have a suggestion.  Suppose the key straps in the
main restraint were of leather and sewn with heavy gauge thread
in prominent stiching in a key area that is easy to reach and see
with a hood on, or in a mirror in the case of a hood.
	There is a neat piece of equipment found in all sewing stores
called a seam ripper.  It works like a champ.  It has a small hook
that is sharpened on the inside.  This point is slipped under the
stiching and rips it out very quick and efficiently.  With some
thought, a restraint could be put together that could easily be
disassembled in an emergency in a fairly short time with a handy
seam ripper.
	The damage would appear large, but it is not.  The holes
for the stiching in heavy leather would still be there.  With a
good heavy gauge needle and some strong carpet thread, a few
hours would replace quite a bit of stiching by going right back
through the holes punched by the heavy industrial sewing machine
that made the original stiching.
	Since it would take several hours of careful work to repair
the damage, using the seam ripper is not something you would take
lightly.  Still if done, it would be fairly fast and easy.  If
the entire restraint were carefully applied to be suseptible to
such an attack it would appear to serve both objectives of
providing a safe but non-trivial escape.

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Date: Mon, 24 Oct 88 23:39:27 EDT
From: Michael
Subject: D&S Organizations

     An article in P&W Digest 1.17 mentioned Centurions as a source of supply
for bondage equipment.  Unfortunately, Centurions went bankrupt last year
after many years in the business (hard to believe with their prices - or is
that perhaps the reason?)
     The address for the Society of Janus in San Francisco is:
          P. O. Box 6794
          San Francisco, CA  94101

There is a Janus group in LA; SF and LA went through a messy divorce in the
past year.  There are two other large D&S organizations whose addresses I
know of, plus a number of smaller ones.  The oldest and largest in
the country is the Eulenspiegel Society, at P. O. Box 2783, Grand Central
Station, New York, NY  10163.  People Exchanging Power is in DC; the
address is P. O. Box 11161, Arlington, VA  22210.  There are PEP groups in
Albuquerque NM and in Phoenix and Tucson in AZ, but they are not nearly as
large.  The groups are completely independent of each other; they were all
started by a woman named Nancy Miller.  For a list of other groups, there
is a fairly new publication called the Sandmutopia Guardian.  If you cannot
find a copy in your local dirty book store, write to Desmodus, P. O. Box
11314, San Francisco, CA  94101 (the publisher).

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