Subject: Perverts and Weirdos Digest, v.1 #20 (ROT13) Date: 24 Nov 88 00:16:59 GMT Perverts and Weirdos Digest, v.1 #20 (ROT13) Wed Nov 23 19:16:46 EST 1988 WARNING: This digest may contain sexually explicit material. Do not decrypt it if you find this type of material offensive. Contributions: uunet!inco!alembic!pwdigest Comments: uunet!inco!alembic!mack Mailing List requests: uunet!inco!alembic!pwdigest-request You can request back-issues of the Digest, but first you need to read the introductory posting in alt.sex or soc.singles. You can request a copy of the introduction by sending mail to: uunet!inco!alembic!pwissue with the word "Intro" on the subject line. Internet mailers should try: alembic!pwdigest@inco.uu.net alembic!mack@inco.uu.net etc. To decrypt from within a newsreader: Newsreader Command --------- ------- readnews,vnews 'D' vn 'z' rn 'x' or 'CTRL-X' Gnews 'x' (see the manual) notes '%' or 'R' rnews (Gnumacs) ^C^R ANU NEWS (VMS) READ/ROT13 To decrypt a stored file: tr "[a-m][n-z][A-M][N-Z]" "[n-z][a-m][N-Z][A-M]" <input >output or /usr/lib/news/caesar 13 <input-file >output-file -- dm ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Oct 88 12:17:41 EDT From: Eddie Subject: More family fun Contact: eddiep I enjoyed malebox's description of the quasi-incestuous experience he had with his wife, stepdaughter, and her boyfriend. I'm not sure I believe it, but that is, I guess, part of what makes reading letters like that interesting-- trying to figure out whether it really happened or not. (For those of you unfamiliar with the article, it appeared in P&W Digest Vol. 1, No. 8. as "Family fun".) I am interested in hearing more about NON-COERCIVE incestuous or quasi- incestuous experiences that others reading this have had. Does it turn you on to think about it? Also, if you have not had any such experiences, but fantasise about them, I would like to hear those fantasies too. Recommendations of erotica with this theme are welcomed too. Have you ever shared or acted out your fantasies in a non-incestuous situation? I will post some of my own fantasies shortly, when I can determine whether PWDigest still exists or not. By the way, please give me a contact line of "eddiep". Eddie Puss ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Oct 88 16:44:58 EST From: Anonymous Subject: Menage a Twat I have been dating the same guy for three years. I love him more than I can express with words....But sometimes I feel like we need something a little out of the ordinary to keep things spicy! I mentioned one day to him that I had had a 'rape' fantasy. Not where I was in any threat of physical danger, and not truly raped...but a little forced by the one I love! (PLease, i am NOT condoning rape!!!!) Lately Brad didn't seem to be particularly appreciative of me. I felt a little taken for granted. Brad had been spending all day and night on homework, etc..... He invited an old friend , who I had never met up for the weekend. Brad knew Jeff in high school. I was a little nervous, because I had heard that Jeff was a little critical, to say the least!! Friday came, and I met Jeff. he was very good looking, in a blonde way....And seemingly very aggresive. He looked me up and down like hamburger in the meat aisle..(sorry for the analogy!!!) And he and Brad took off to the local bars. I was feeling very sorry for myself, and decided to make Brad take a little notice. When they came home, I was wearing a short mini skirt and a guinea tee without benefit of a bra, I wore a sweatshirt over the tee shirt though.. didn't want to be too obvious!!! I wasn't wearing any underwear, and when I sat down on the end of the couch facing Jeff, next to Brad, I spread my legs just a little bit so Jeff could see my wet pussy. He looked immediately...and brad, not knowing why I was being stared at, decided to ignore Jeff's apparant interest. I asked Brad to start a fire, and I went and made us some drinks and cheese and crackers. We all sat down to enjoy our rented movie. When it started getting warm...benefit of the fireplace... I started to take off my sweatshirt....My nipples were hard and begging to be sucked......Brad looked a little suprised...and Jeff looked like he was gaining a huge erection. I beant over to give Brad a kiss, and thus showed Jeff a very curvy and delicious view. I offered to freshen up our drinks, and went to the kitchen. Jeff followed me, seemingly to help me. As soon as we got to the kitchen, Jeff said to me, "why are you showing off your gorgeous tits and ass?? Trying to make brad jealous? I don't care...I am enjoying the play." He pulled me up next to him and pressed me into his hips so I could feel his hard on. He lifted me onto the edge of the sink and told me he wanted to see what my tits looked like when the were wet. making use of the dish washing shower hose thing... He sprayed freezing water accross my chest, soaking my tee shirt. He told me I had Penthouse tits. He asked me if I liked having my nipples iced.. And then he showed me what that felt like by spredaing an ice cube over my already painfully hard nipples. i was so incredibly ready to be fucked. I never wanted to be fucked as much as I did at the moment. He pinched my nipples hard...I love when guys do that..and he told me to unzip his jeans...when i hesitated he put his fingers into my soaked pussy and teased me outside my underwear..until out of sheer desperation I unloosed his cock from his jeans. I begged him to finger me...but he kept pulling my panties accross my clit telling me if I sucked his cock real good he would finger me. I told him I couldn't do anymore....I loved Brad... this had gone far enough....He fingered me then and made me forget what I was saying. I was so wet he used the juices to lubricate my ass, and plunged a finger into my ass. It felt so incredible..all I could think of was wanting to go down on him...but I didn't want him to stop.... He asked me if I liked my pussy sucked,,,I nodded and he slipped his face between my legs and sucked me and finger fucked me till I thought I could stand no more. I was having trouble biting back my screams. Just then Brad wanted to know what was taking so long. Jeff and I walked out to the living room..and Brad looked at my hard wet tits and asked what was going on and Jeff said...."I finger fucked her in her dripping pussy and ass...I sucked her pussy and tits..and she hasn't even touched me...you haven't taught her very well Brad." Brad nodded and told me to go down on Jeff...I resisted when Brad took ice from his drink and rubbed it over my sore nipples until i promised to give jeff the blowjob of his life. I slipped to my knees...and took off Jeff's jeans and underwear...he warned me I better do very good. I didn't know if I could as he was so large. I used my hands and mouth as best i could, until i felt Brad's fingers in my pussy and his mouth kissing my ass. that made me start going down on Jeff with a vegeance. Jeff asked Brad if he could fuck me..Brad considered it, and i yelled, "NO!" Brad told him I wanted to be raped here it was....Brad grabbed me and pushed me over the chaise lounge and spread eagled my legs to the breaking point. Jeff delved his face between my legs and told me how delicious I was...He tried to kiss me with my juices still on his face...I turned my head to avoid the kiss and he grabbed my hair and said "taste yourself...see why I want to fuck you till you scream." Brad looked more aroused than I had ever seen him..we never talked dirty to one another. He was enjoying the show..and I think he was a bit jealous. Jeff rubbed the head of his enormous cock all around my pussy and ass..he told me to beg for it. When I didn't, he dragged me off to the shower, and tied my hands over my head on the shower head, and ripped off my shirt while Brad removed my skirt. He held the shower head on full pulse to my pussy and took it away everytime I approached orgasm..he told me to beg if I wanted a cock in my pussy. He took the bath oil from the shower cart and spilled it onto my tits..."I have never seen tits like this...you are a lucky guy Brad. She has fucking huge nipples...." he massaged the oil into my breasts..and I betrayed myself by moaning. He told me i was ready to be fucked. He turned me around and spread my cheeks and lips and started to put his huge cock into my soaked pussy...It hurt like hell...but it felt like heaven too! Brad turned me to face him and offered me his gorgeous erection..I sucked and sucked all the more cause i was also being fucked.....Jeff pulled out and told me to beg...to go down on him...I obliged him and Brad took his place in my cunt. Brad rubbed my clit and Jeff squeezed my tits and picnhed my nipples....I kept moaning till i couldn;t hold back and then I almost screamed for Brad to pump me as hard and fast as he could. Jeff plunged into my mouth and Brad came in great big waves. Jeff pulled out of my mouth and slammed into my pussy...wher Brad's cum was sliding down my thighs..and I orgasmed three or four times.....It was quite and evening. After that evening, Jeff went to our bed with us and cuddled. It was uncomfortable in the morning when he left..and Brad was still feeling a little betrayed by my obvious enjoyment. But is certainly spiced up our sex life......And I love Brad even more for indulging me. That's all for now!!!! thanks for letting me write this. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Oct 88 00:43:20 EDT From: Robert & Susan Subject: Public bondage costumes Contact: robert1 As I wrote in an earlier post, Susan really doesn't like playing bondage games of any sort in public. She gets embarassed just going braless. But we have had a few discipline sessions which involved public appearance (if not exposure). For one excursion, We invented a "public bondage dress" that I believe is unique. A lot of bondage fiction (and I suspect more than a little bondage fact) revolves around the simple idea of draping a coat or sweater over a pair of bound hands. The victim can walk around inconspicuously and still be bound in public. But in reality this idea has one problem: If her hands are bound in front (the most natural way to carry a sweater), she has too much freedom. Hands bound in front are almost not bound at all. If her hands are bound in back, she looks awkward, and may be discovered. Our solution started with a calf-length cotton dress with long loose sleeves. The dress is a light blue, with buttons completely down the front. There were originally two diagonal cut side pockets, but Susan cut the bottoms out of the pockets, for use as described later. She also put small button holes on the insides of the elbows, with matching button holes on the sides of the dress. These holes allow small elbow cuffs to be attached to a leather harness worn under the dress. The connecting link is a 1/8 inch thick nylon cord (chain or metal would be too noisy). This holds her arms at her sides, and since the sleeves are very loose, the folds tend to hide the connecting line. Her hands may be left free or bound in front with the proverbial sweater thrown over for cover. But the most interesting possiblity is to put them through the cut out pockets and cuff them to a waist/chastity belt also worn under the dress. Since the dress is fairly long, her knees can be hobbled as well, constraining her gait. She has been forced to wear it in public only once, walking through a nearby park. Since the attachments all tie (instead of clipping or snapping), she had to be harnessed in at home. First she stripped naked, then she put on her own homemade leather harness. This device starts with a steel ring between her breasts. Two straps go upwards from the ring over her shoulders and buckle in back. One strap goes down from the ring over her belly, through her crotch and up her back. There are three horizontal belts: one below the breasts, one above the waist at elbow level, and one at the waist. These all belt in the back, and do not have locking clasps. Since her hands are bound in front, there is no need for the harness to lock. After she put on the harness, I strapped on her elbow cuffs (they fit around the upper arm just above the elbow), and also a small pair of wrist cuffs. The wrist cuffs close with tiny padlocks, because she can reach the clasps with the opposite hand when her wrists are bound together. The elbow cuffs have 1 foot lengths of the nylon cord already attached. Then I told her to put the dress on, but to leave it unbuttoned. After she had it on, I threaded the nylon cords through the button holes and tied the ends to the third horizontal belt in her harness. I made sure the elbow cuffs were snubbed close to her body. I had her put her hands through the pockets, and then I locked each wrist cuff to a metal ring that slides up and down on the crotch strap from her harness. This movement allows her to both sit and stand normally, and to the rest of the world she would look like just another woman with her hands in her pockets. Before buttoning up her dress, I made sure that everything was securely fastened by fondling her nipples and pussy until she squirmed to my satisfaction. Then I buttoned up the dress, leaving the top three buttons open (I'd have liked to leave more open, but then the harness straps would have shown). I made up for that by leaving most of the buttons on the skirt undone. That way her thighs would show if she walked too fast or the wind blew a little. For her, the hardest part was getting in and out of the car without falling over. Without her hands to help, she had to back into her seat and then turn around. Of course I had to fasten her seat belt for her (a little government sponsored bondage there). Then we drove to a small park in a neighboring town. In plain view of two dozen people she walked around the lake restrained by a bondage harness and with no underwear. The best part was that I could fondle her indiscriminately and she couldn't free her hands to stop me. To the crowd we must have looked like a couple of oversexed young lovers (which we are), but no one seemed to pay us any extra attention. After we drove home, I left her bound and harnessed, but I did unbutton the dress completely, and left her that way the rest of the afternoon. Such a lovely view was was a splendid way to warm up to an evening of love making. -- Robert & Susan inco!alembic!robert1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Oct 88 15:52:54-1000 From: Michael Subject: self-restraint emergencies I am not into bondage and would prefer a wider range of topics. Still, PWDigest is one of the more interesting things on the nets. I am impressed with some of the cleverness shown by the previous contributers. Specifically the idea of freezing the key into a block of ice by "A Man" in a self-bondage situation is quite imaginative. In a posting by "bill1" he asked about the problem of safety in self-bondage. I have a suggestion. Suppose the key straps in the main restraint were of leather and sewn with heavy gauge thread in prominent stiching in a key area that is easy to reach and see with a hood on, or in a mirror in the case of a hood. There is a neat piece of equipment found in all sewing stores called a seam ripper. It works like a champ. It has a small hook that is sharpened on the inside. This point is slipped under the stiching and rips it out very quick and efficiently. With some thought, a restraint could be put together that could easily be disassembled in an emergency in a fairly short time with a handy seam ripper. The damage would appear large, but it is not. The holes for the stiching in heavy leather would still be there. With a good heavy gauge needle and some strong carpet thread, a few hours would replace quite a bit of stiching by going right back through the holes punched by the heavy industrial sewing machine that made the original stiching. Since it would take several hours of careful work to repair the damage, using the seam ripper is not something you would take lightly. Still if done, it would be fairly fast and easy. If the entire restraint were carefully applied to be suseptible to such an attack it would appear to serve both objectives of providing a safe but non-trivial escape. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Oct 88 23:39:27 EDT From: Michael Subject: D&S Organizations An article in P&W Digest 1.17 mentioned Centurions as a source of supply for bondage equipment. Unfortunately, Centurions went bankrupt last year after many years in the business (hard to believe with their prices - or is that perhaps the reason?) The address for the Society of Janus in San Francisco is: P. O. Box 6794 San Francisco, CA 94101 There is a Janus group in LA; SF and LA went through a messy divorce in the past year. There are two other large D&S organizations whose addresses I know of, plus a number of smaller ones. The oldest and largest in the country is the Eulenspiegel Society, at P. O. Box 2783, Grand Central Station, New York, NY 10163. People Exchanging Power is in DC; the address is P. O. Box 11161, Arlington, VA 22210. There are PEP groups in Albuquerque NM and in Phoenix and Tucson in AZ, but they are not nearly as large. The groups are completely independent of each other; they were all started by a woman named Nancy Miller. For a list of other groups, there is a fairly new publication called the Sandmutopia Guardian. If you cannot find a copy in your local dirty book store, write to Desmodus, P. O. Box 11314, San Francisco, CA 94101 (the publisher). ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ End of Perverts and Weirdos Digest ************************ -------