Subject: P&W Digest archive/v1n17
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 88 14:46:51 EDT
Perverts and Weirdos Digest, v.1 #17 (ROT13) Sat Oct 22 16:28:45 EDT 1988
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Date: Sun, 25 Sep 88 21:51:04 edt
From: agent86
Subject: Re: A Submissive Submission
Contact: agent86
> If any of you Women out there would like an E-Mail slave, I bet
> we could work something out......
I'm also looking for an e-mail mistress. I had one, but since I
don't have a lot of money, I (and many others) got abandoned.
Are there any other women out there who wish to be served? If so,
please contact agent86.
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Date: Mon, 26 Sep 88 14:08:12 PDT
From: David
Subject: Control Devices
Re: Shockers
How about a device to train a man not to become erect?
A simple strap
around the base of the penis, containing a switch the
closes when the strap is stretched by a growing erection.
When the switch closes, a shock is administered to the
testicles. The electronics and battery could rest under-
neath the scrotum. How long would the training take?
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Date: Mon, 26 Sep 88 16:24:31 edt
From: A Man
Subject: from aman (TV Date Followup)
Keywords: crossdressing, self bondage, enemas.
Hello again.
This is my second letter to PWD, my first describing my upcoming TV
date with a new friend. In that letter, I promised I would write back and
describe the date, which is the first half of this letter. The second half
of this letter is an open reply to fourpint regarding his letter in PWD#15.
If you remember, our hero was left getting into a VERY short electric blue
spandex mini-skirt for a night on the town. Well, a skirt like that deserves
a knockout accompaniment, so I wore my highest (6") spike heeled sandals, a
black silk blouse, a tight corset to push out some curves, and a set of 36C
bra inserts. Added were some black lace stockings, and a pair of (removable)
pink panties.
Well, the date went great. We went to one of the crossdressing bars in town,
and had a few drinks and a few laughs. Since it was a first date, we started
out slowly and easily. He loved my outfit, especially when I reached up
under my skirt and slowly, sexily removed my panties. You should have seen
the look on his face. Well, always one to fall for flattery, and being very
exhibitionistic, I decided to stage a small fashion show for him in a
deserted parking lot nearby. While the camera clicked, various poses were
struck, and various pieces of clothing came off - including the skirt.
We both had a great time. Our next date will probably be a little more
intimate, and with more showing off. Maybe this one will be inside, so I
can go a little more wild with the fashions. I can't wait!
To fourpint: it's amazing how similar our tastes are in fetish fun.
I am also a fan of enemas and self bondage (in addition to crossdressing).
In fact, since this article and a new piece of bondage gear arrived today, I
am going to go home and have one HELLUVA time. The new gear is a trainer. If
you are not familiar with a trainer, it is a full head harness with lots of
straps to fit fully around the head and hold in a large gag. On mine, the
gag is shaped like a 4" cock, but they come in all shapes and sizes. All the
straps lock, of course.
I am interested in hearing from people with new ideas for self bondage.
Since I currently don't have a girlfriend (or boyfriend) into bondage, I
have to practice alone. So far, the most creative idea I have used is this.
Take the keys to you handcuffs (or whatever will be your LAST piece of
bondage gear to put on), and freeze them inside a bottle of water. When you
are ready, take the bottle out of the freezer, and put it somewhere
accessible but safe. Then, lock yourself up as tight as you want. Voila: you
are STUCK! until the ice melts. The bigger the bottle, the longer the
bondage. My favorite bottle is a one-pint plastic bottle with a wide mouth.
It locks me in for about 5-6 hours. Unfortunately, I don't have one in the
freezer today, so I will have to improvise. Lately, I have been
experimenting with putting the keys somewhere difficult, but not impossible
to get to, like fourpint described. One of my thoughts was in the mailbox
outside. However, I am not sure I want to take my exhibitionism that far.
Tonights activities will probably include my new trainer, nipple clamps
(boy, those japanese sewing clamps hurt so good!), garter belt, stockings,
high heels, some lingerie, and an overnighter (locked together thigh and
hand cuffs - similar to a spanking belt without the waist and crotch straps).
Optional items are an enema and by home-made chastity belt. This is a
locking waist strap with a 6" butt plug locked to it with chains. It is
always fun to wear.
I'll write back again soon, and tell you all how it went.
P.S.: Please keep PWD coming. It is one source of great entertainment in an
otherwise boring network!
-A Man
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Date: 25 SEP 88 14:58 MST
From: Anonymous <inco!alembic!bill1>
Subject: Go for it.
Contact: bill1
Open notes:
To Greg: Yes please provide more information on Cabela's.
Maybe you should E-Mail it to me, since I suspect that it is not
really of general interest.
To the moderator:
You are right to warn of the safety dangers of shockers. People
that don't know what they are doing ought to be VERY carefull of
shockers. As I had said, I am unimpressed with the safety aspects
of comercial units.
Somebody here was telling me that they would be tempted to write
to Robert and Susan, except that if they did so the note would
have their actual return address on it. (Some people here are
quite paranoid, given the area) Is there any chance that you
could set up a contact service that is just like the one that
you have, except that you cull out the mail headers before you
send the message on? While I think I can maintain reasonable
anonimity in replying, I suspect that there are many people
that would be more willing to reply if the headers were removed.
[[ Sorry, but this is not possible. I don't forward contact postings by
hand, it's done automatically. I never even see them. I haven't figured
out a workable double-blind contact mechanism yet. -dm ]]
To Sunny Kirsten:
Your posting did not give a contact name? How does one get ahold
of you via E-Mail?
[[ Afraid that was my fault. I cut out the email address out of habit.
I don't have Sunny's address. -dm ]]
To the group:
I am quite pleased to notice that there was significant response to my posting.
(I still don't know if there is general interest, but it is clear that it
struck a note of interest with some folks).
A general note that I should make here, to head off a common question:
No, I am not really interested in going together with others as a commericial
operation. I am quite willing to talk over design with other people, and can
offer suggestions (In fact am quite willing) and I love to hear the ideas and
experiences of other people. (And if you offer me one, then I might be quite
willing to buy one) But I am not really interested in starting production of
any such item. I could be talked into helping set up such equipment, but not
for money.
Robert and Susan asked at the end of one of their notes whether or not I used
such items for "self bondage" (or some such question, I don't have it here).
The answer is yes, and brings up the subject of self bondage, and the use of
shockers in it. To me there is a major problem with self bondage, in that
either I can get out at any time so that there is not any real excitement,
or I am in real danger of not being able to get out at all.
While I much prefer bondage to a mistress, I am afraid that I do resort to
self bondage sometimes.
I would love to be able to set up computer controlled self bondage session,
and it would not be hard to set up a shocker and other "toys" to be driven
by an RS232 interface so that it could be driven by any home PC. However,
I don't do so because I am not sure that this could be done without a real
safety problem. I just can't bring myself to trust the total dependabilty
of electronics with my life or health. If anybody would like to talk over
details of putting together equipment that can survive single component or
connection failure without risking health, I am quite interested.
How do other people out there handle the issue of ease of escape from self
bondage? Is there any equipment out there that makes this any easier?
Has anybody else out there done anything with controlling shockers from
decoded touch-tone(R) signals? Hooked up to an answering machine, they
allow last minute "adjustment" of one's slave. Replaying some tapes on
a tape-recorder (with an audio-out jack attached) would allow a slave a
chance to re-live some of their most memorable calls when they practice
self bondage.
-bill
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Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1988 0:30:42 PDT
From: Rick
Subject: Anal Sex for Beginner's
Contact: RICK7
About KAT's advice about anal sex, there's psychological stuff
she didn't talk about. One problem with sliding something in
is that you're natural reaction is to hold your anus tight.
To loosen up, the easiest thing to do is to "push" against what
you're putting in even though that seems wrong at first.
It took some practice for me to get used to the back stroke, too.
Sliding something in always feels nice, but sliding something out
was always too reminiscent of shitting for me (not a turn-on in my
book). As I got used to it, I got rid of this association and any
guilt feelings connected to it. I still like to take it very slow
with something in my ass though, without much of a vigorous fucking
motion. I don't think I'd enjoy being fucked by another man.
In pornography you see plenty of wild butt-fucking without a care,
but normally it's different. I once had a girl friend who used to
like to masturbate lying face down, with me in her ass. I was always
glad to oblige, but it wasn't much fun for me, because I always
had to be real careful about hurting her. I would hold still and
let her hump up and down on her hand, only moving about an inch.
For some things, it would be nice to have a smaller penis :-).
The first time you do it with someone, why don't you try it on top?
That way you can control the motion and not hurt yourself. Don't
be bashful about being self-indulgent, at least not the first time.
Just tell him this one's for you and don't bother trying to make
him come. You can promise to indulge him some other time.
One of the best sessions I've had was the time when I was lying
face up with a vibrator in my ass while my girlfreind was on top
fucking me. I had to handle the vibrator myself, because she was
too timid about trying to slide it in (this one couldn't imagine
putting something that big in your ass). She said she liked to sit
still and feel my cock vibrating when I pressed the vibrator against
my prostate. I think the more fun things to do are a little
stranger than just imitating fucking. Maybe oral sex with a dildo
sliding into your ass?
I've never had much fun with the scenario where you go about
your normal business with something in your ass. It seems nice
in fantasy, but unless you find doing your homework exciting,
the associations are all wrong. If you want to do something for
a half hour or so during an anal stretching exercise, just masturbate
*slow*... or just read or watch something that excites you.
Another thing you should know is that it's easiest to smart small
and work your way up to larger sizes. What you want is a set of
dildo's of different diameters, maybe starting as small as half an
inch. Or you could just try something with a round tip and a very
gradual point that you can put in real slow.
The round tip is nice also because it should come out looking
cleaner. Like I said before, I don't like any associations
with shit or shitting in my anal sex. It's good to do it in the
bathtub or shower where you can clean up quick if you have
any little problems. And unlike the Marquis de Sade, I think you
should use the toliet first, to make some room inside to play in :-).
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Date: Wed, 5 Oct 88 02:47:50 EDT
From: RepoMan
Subject: Mmf! Mmmm!
Contact:repoman
Mmf gmmf ggmm mmh nnh mm mm!! [Uh-oh, forgot to take the gag out... there,
that's much better...]
Yet another bondage enthusiast unable to resist the lure of posting to the
P&W Digest. I've archived issues 1 through 15, and was especially turned
on by Robert & Susan's postings. Whew! I'd be one happy man if I had a
wife like Susan! It's especially impressive how much fun they seem to
have without the whole thing turning into a degrading humiliation ritual.
Obviously, there's some naughtiness involved, but they both maintain their
dignity, even when engaging in activities truly worthy of the P&W label.
Keep those postings coming, folks!
I've been into bondage for a long, long time. Auto-erotica, masturbating
while bound, was something I used to do a fair amount (for special occasions
mostly, like when I had the house to myself). I really got into that this
summer, when I was working in a part of the country to which I'd never
been before, in a single apartment, in which I could get as zany as I
wanted with no fear whatsoever of being discovered. It got kind of old
fairly quickly, though, and I gave it up, settling for plain old masturba-
tion instead. But for a while there I was using collars, ropes, extension
cords (if you're ever in need of a quickie and have no supplies, extension
cords work really well!), and my one pair of handcuffs. Some fun!
I've eased off on that action, though, partially because it gets kind of
boring unless you invest in novel equipment every so often (which I'm not
situated to do at the moment), and partially because I'm somewhat con-
cerned about this fetish becoming too powerful. If I ever reach the point
where I'm incapable of having an orgasm without being bound, that will be
going entirely too far. There's no guarantee, after all, that any of my
partners will be into this whole scene, and it would be a drag if I had
to restrict myself to SOs with my particular kink...
A couple of questions for all you P&W types out there: are there many
of you who walk both sides of the D&S street? Being only a slave or only
a master would seem to me to be unnecessarily restrictive; after all,
binding and being bound both have their own distinctive charms. Yet most
of the literature talks about "submissives" and "dominants" as exclusive
categories. Are there many other slave/masters out there? (And anyone
need a relatively inexperienced but willing slave or master? Repoman's
the name, B&D's the game!)
Also, I've read all the bondage postings, and I have yet to hear of anyone
using any equipment more complex that Susan's spanking belt. I've looked
at the Centurion {sp?} catalogs of armbinders and body binders, as well
as the Sweet Gwendoline catalogs. Now THAT stuff looks like fun! Full-
size straitjackets, soft black leather arm binders for trapping the
arms behind the back, chest harnesses with neck and chest straps, as
tightly as you like; chastity belts with wrist cuffs attached; helmets
with included dildo gags; thigh and ankle cuffs, locking or buckling;
breast harnesses with straps in back for more flexible arrangements; and
then some! We're talking expensive here, of course; the things are custom-
made to fit the slave wearer. Some of the catalogs are full-color, with
dynamite photos; some very nice black-and-white drawings are included too.
And I've only owned (and masturbated while reading) the Armbinders catalog.
They also have catalogs about chastity belts, gags & helmets, penis res-
traints (I'd like to look at that one!), and on and on. (Oh, by the way,
when I said "expensive" I meant "$650+ for full-body lace-up harnesses
custom-made to fit, with more straps and leather than your slave will know
what to do with." A serious way to spend a LOT of disposable income!) Is
there anyone out there who has a wardrobe of this stuff, and if there is,
would they tell us about it? (Or me, at least!)
Sorry I don't have an address for Centurian {sp? not sure whether it's an
"a" or an "o"}, but you can probably find their catalogs in any good prn
(I mean porn) boutique. Oh, did anyone ever supply an address for Society
of Janus? I'd like to get in touch with them folks... just for kicks...
I must say I'm glad most of us bondage types aren't into serious pain.
Light whipping, OK; bruises, no. Good for us. We have SOME standards,
at least :-)
Sorry I haven't got any excellent stories, but I haven't yet found a really
enthusiastic and creative partner in bondage, and my jack-off tales aren't
in the same league with those of R&S, so I'll save the bandwidth for now.
But hey, get in touch, and maybe we can produce some more entries for this
delectable digest!
Keep on fuckin'!
-- RepoMan
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