Subject: Perverts and Weirdos Digest, v.1 #16 (ROT13) Date: 14 Oct 88 03:01:10 GMT Perverts and Weirdos Digest, v.1 #16 (ROT13) Thu Oct 13 23:00:57 EDT 1988 WARNING: This digest may contain sexually explicit material. Do not decrypt it if you find this type of material offensive. Contributions: uunet!inco!alembic!pwdigest Comments: uunet!inco!alembic!mack Mailing List requests: uunet!inco!alembic!pwdigest-request You can request back-issues of the Digest, but first you need to read the introductory posting in alt.sex or soc.singles. You can request a copy of the introduction by sending mail to: uunet!inco!alembic!pwissue with the word "Intro" on the subject line. Internet mailers should try: alembic!pwdigest@inco.uu.net alembic!mack@inco.uu.net etc. To decrypt from within a newsreader: Newsreader Command --------- ------- readnews,vnews 'D' vn 'z' rn 'x' or 'CTRL-X' Gnews 'x' (see the manual) notes '%' or 'R' rnews (Gnumacs) ^C^R ANU NEWS (VMS) READ/ROT13 To decrypt a stored file: tr "[a-m][n-z][A-M][N-Z]" "[n-z][a-m][N-Z][A-M]" <input >output or /usr/lib/news/caesar 13 <input-file >output-file -- dm ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Sep 88 11:50 EDT From: Alexander Subject: Electric 'charge' Contact: alexander1 I was wondering if anyone else out there actually becomes addicted to electricity. My example all started in a highschool physics class. Our teacher had a small voltage hand crank generator. It had two circuits, one to light a lightbulb, and another with two unconnected wires. If the exposed ends of these two wires were touched while the crank was turned, an electric charge would flow through the body of the person holding the wires. What would usually take place was, all of us would stand in a line and hold hands while the two people on the end would hold the wires. Our teacher would then crank the generator and you could feel the current flow in one hand and out the other. At first the experience was quite scary but once you got past the initial pain of the first bolt going through your body, it became a very pleasant experience. We would reduce the number of people in the line who 'couldn't handle it' thus making the current stronger for us. This process would continue until about 2 people were left. I was usually one of them. I found it a great turn on and often found myself getting 'aroused' while it was taking place. I talked with some of the other guys and they felt the same way. I had a good female friend in there and we discussed it and she said it did something for her too. She mentioned the word addiction and that is exactly what it was becoming. After a few sessions, we (about 5 of my closest friends) couldn't wait to get into physics to be charged up again. This may all sound bizarre I know but I'm not in to B&D nor S&M. This really wasn't painful, it was just a turn on. Have any of you experienced the same thing? Please reply to mailbox "alexander1" --Alex ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Sep 88 16:23:03 EDT From: James Subject: Bondage Games/Tickling I have had several experiences with mild bondage, with a couple of women. One may have found it somewhat stimulating (it seemed so at the time), but her intellectual reaction was negative, and so while we tried various things (tying her hands to the bedstead, tying her hands and ankles together, and then running another scarf between them while she was on her hands and knees, peacock feather tickling, ice cubes, coconut oil massage), we've rarely repeated anything. About sex in general, she takes the attitude "we can try it once, but that will probably be all". Thus, our usual coupling involves not too much foreplay and the missionary position (I am a lot more fit than she, and part of the problem is that I tire her out - she has frequent orgasms, but doesn't like me to delay mine). The other woman I have tried bondage with is somewhat more into sex as sport/recreation/art. She loves to be lightly bound (scarves tying her wrists together or to the bedstead) while I lick her, tickle her breasts with a feather, or fuck her. She is somewhat less sensitive than the first woman, but once she is excited enough she has multiple orgasms until she is incoherent and on the point of passing out. The first time I got out the peacock feather, I tickled her gently with the edge, pausing every once in a while to tickle her neck and armpits, or pull the stem of the feather through her labia and across her clit. I kept this up for quite a while, she was not at all firmly bound but getting into it so she wasn't trying to get away. I had her frantic before I lubed my fingers with coconut oil and fingered her for a while, then brought her to orgasm several times with my tongue, and finally climbed on top, and she said that her breasts ached for several days thereafter. We have usually used scarves (cotton), but sometimes she just wants me to hold her wrists over her head while I fuck her. Another time she had a silly little set of leather wrist-cuffs connected by long lengths of chain to a leather collar. Nothing at all like restraint (she could move her hands freely), but the symbolism was very powerful for both of us, and she also reacted very strongly to my reaction. It aroused me quite a bit to brush the dangling chains across her body, particularly her breasts. She likes to tease, too, but it is not so easy to tease a man (or at least me). Fellatio can be prolonged, and holding me back just as I am nearing orgasm is like lightning striking, but I can only come once (unless she leaves me tied long enough for me to recover, and she gets worked up enough that she hasn't so far). I guess I am also somewhat less into receiving bondage than she is, and the fact that I can get away and that I trust her may take the edge off it, I don't know. Not that I haven't enjoyed what I've done, nor would I resist going further, but it my experiences so far haven't really set me on fire. I guess I wish that I could also receive the prolonged intense ecstasy that I can give, but the closest I have come is one when time we petted and kissed intensely for a long time, to the point that my balls ached. Sex was quite intense once we finally got to a bed. Why do I do it? I like the symbolic submission to my touch and tongue, that she surrenders her freedom and gets intense pleasure from so doing. It also seems that if I have been teasing her for a long time, it is easier for me to hold back my own orgasm and fuck for her pleasure until she's begging me to come and I can't stand it anymore. I like the kinky flavor it adds to sex, once in a while... James ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Sep 88 16:04:42 EDT From: Eric Subject: "Sensory Deprivation" Myths Let's clear the air here: I have a long interest in flotation restricted stimulation, and currently have a flotation system in my basement. The comments by "Sandy Locke" are so wrong-headed that I feel they need correction. > From: Sandy Locke > Subject: Sensory Deprivation in Bondage > > I've been toying with the idea of sensory deprivation techniques in sex-play. > > I recently read _The Cardinal in the Kremlin_, yet another Tom Clancy spy > novel. In _TCitK_ a minor spy-personage is "tortured" in this way. In a > [description of 1950's style experiment] Of course Clancy uses the most sensational interpretation possible - he's writing fiction. Or did you believe the movie "Altered States" too? > I had heard of experiments like this performed at the U. of MI several years > ago. Sounds mythological to me - they may have done something vaguely like this a generation ago, but believe me things have changed since then - in the environments used, but mostly in the mindset of experimenters. > Anyway, I was wondering if anyone had played with sensory deprivation to a > lesser degree. The techniques used for total sensory deprivation can be quite > dangerous if not handled properly <insanity, panic which can cause heart attack > and other consequences>. False. This mythology is left over from many psychology textbooks, which continue to quote from *a single experiment* of the 1950's (do you know of any other scientific area where this is done?). These lazy authors ignore a few hundred studies done since then, most showing positive or neutral effects of "sensory deprivation" (an old name that is biased in itself). Current research focuses on topics such as increased self-regulation of hormonal systems, better ability to visualize, amelioration of arthritis symptoms, and psychotherapy. Nobody dies; nobody goes crazy; nobody panics. > In professional experiments, the victim becomes disoriented, is > able to follow orders and answer direct questions, but the brain's censorship > circuits are <temporarily> nonfunctional. This basicly places the victim under > the total control of the first personality<ies> encountered after being > released. Totally bogus. A "victim" only becomes disoriented if the experimenters "expect" disorientation, leading to things like the famous "2/3 effect", where the subjects would start to show negative effects 2/3 of the way through the experiment *no matter how long* the experiment was, and even if they didn't overtly "know" how long the experiment was going to be! Also, you are confusing "brainwashing" with restricted stimulation (most "brainwashing" involves sensory overload). This confusion is common in the popular consciousness; even Amnesty International made the same mistake in a film on human rights abuses in Ireland. Many people are nervous before experiencing flotation, but relax once they find out how comfortable it really is (imagine a salt-waterbed with no top to the mattress). I find it to be one of the most relaxing and invigorating activities I do. I discover solutions to problems, meditate, recover from physical or mental stress, listen to music or take naps. > Any stimuli that occurs after freedom would be heightened immensely. At last, a glimmer of truth. Restricting stimuli can lead to increased sensitivity, which naturally lends itself to sex. :-) > Any ideas? Do not go near "sensory deprivation" - your mindset is too out of touch with what really can happen. Re-educate yourself first. Keep bondage and restricted stimulation environments separate until you understand both. Otherwise you are just flailing around in the dark. :-):-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: The Master Subject: The Name of the Game is Dominance & Submission Date: Wed, 21 Sep 88 22:39:04 PST Contact: craig1 I want to thank Sunny for the vote of confidence. I note that Sunny plans to drop her computer-only slaves. I would be willing to encourage and help with ideas and tactics any woman who wishes to fill the vacuum Sunny's departure has left. We should not leave the male slaves adrift. To those females that are still considering the proposition, I am still able to take on a few more slaves. Send your fantasies to me and we will begin a grand, erotic adventure. Your master awaits. Craig uunet!inco!alembic!craig1 USENET inco!alembic!craig1@uunet.uu.net Internet inco!alembic!craig1%uunet.uu.net@RELAY.CS.NET CSNET inco!alembic!craig1%uunet.uu.net@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU BITNET ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Sep 88 12:36:50 PST From: Craig Subject: Literature Survey Contact: craig1 (I feel that this sort of thing would work here better than in the news group because the moderator can do just that, moderate and keep out the adolescent flames. If he doesn't want to, he should "just say no.") I thought the readership might find a list of informative and provocative literature interesting. I can't claim to have the best collection in the world and my set may be slanted to one particular "perversion," but my selection might start a good discussion going. First come the non-fiction. "Everything You Always Wanted to Know about Sex," David Reuben, M.D., Bantam Books, New York, 1971. "The Joy of Sex," Alex Comfort, M.B., Ph.D. Editor, Simon and Schuster, New York, 1972. SBN 671-21649-X "Total Message," Jack Hofer, Grosset & Dunlap, New York, 1976. "Erotic Power, An Exploration of Dominance and Submission," Gini Graham Scott, Ph.D., Citadel Press, Secaucus, New Jersey, 1983. ISBN 0-8065-0968-6 "Imaginative Sex," John Norman, DAW Books, Inc., New York, 1974. ISBN 0-87997-546-6 The Dr. Reuben book is a question and answer book. A good introduction to basic sex. The questions are arranged by category and cover a wide range of topics, including "Perversions." It doesn't give a lot of information on actually "how to do it" but still is worthwhile. For one of the best "how to" books, try "The Joy of Sex." This book covers much of the mechanics of the pastime and is well illustrated. A couple could take this book and start with chapter one and proceed through the book trying everything in order. And it does include just about everything from solo sex to group orgies. A little something for everyone and a must in every book collection. While "Total Message" is not really a book about sex, it does have a chapter on erotic messages. I include it, however, because it deals with keeping the body healthy and a nice message can enhance the sexual possibilities. "Erotic Power" is an academic description of what goes on in dominance and submission (D&S) sex relationships. Dr. Graham goes into a lot of the rituals, do's and don'ts, and clubs of the D&S subculture. The primary emphasis is on dominate females and submissive males but the alternate roles are touched on. It is a scholarly work and does not have a lot of graphic descriptions in it. I recommend it highly for those who want to really get into it. Some of you may recognize the name John Norman. He is the author of the "GOR" series. This book is really a distillation of the fantasies of male/female relations in his novels. Norman opens the book with a series of essays on his philosophy of sex and then follows them with 53 scenarios for acting out the philosophy. I recommend that the essays be skipped and that the reader go straight for the fantasies. If you're into bondage, you'll get lots of ideas from his scenarios. Some are very imaginative. Enough of the real stuff, on to the fantasies! "Story of O", Pauline Reage, Trans. Sabine d'Estree, Grove Press, Inc., New York, 1965. ISBN: 0-8021-4003-3 "Exit to Eden," Anne Rampling, Dell, New York, 1986. ISBN: 0-440- 12392-5 "The Claiming of Sleeping Beauty," A. N. Roquelaure, E. P. Dutton, New York, 1983. ISBN: 0-525-48362-4 "The Story of O" is the classic S&M novel. It is about a French chateau where women are taken to be trained to be sex slaves of men. The story follows O from the time her boyfriend first takes her to the chateau through her experiences there to her enslavement to another man. It is highly erotic but I recommend that no one ever try any of these things at home. For an updated variation of the same theme, "Exit to Eden" is to be highly recommended. This time it is the woman who wheels the whip and the chateau becomes a club on an island where both men and women live out their slave fantasies. S&M plays less of a role "Exit" than in "O" but "Exit" is in many ways more erotic. The story is about the interplay of one mistress and an overpowering male slave. It is my understanding that Anne Rampling, A. N. Roquelaure and Anne Rice are all the same writer, but the works under the name Roquelaure do not do as much for me. "The Claiming of Sleeping Beauty" continues the fairy story after the prince has rescued her. He takes her back to his castle that has been setup to train the princes and princesses of neighboring kingdoms in the fine art of submission. If you're into English Culture (Spanking), this is the book for you. Somebody gets spanked almost every other page. "Beauty" is the first of a trilogy; I do not have the other two. This is all of the mini-reviews I can get out for now. Below is the list of other books I will try to review as time allows. If anyone else has read them and wishes to comment, please do. "The Olympia Reader," Maurice Girodias, Editor, Grove Press, Inc., New York, 1965. "Eros in Orbit," Joseph Elder, Editor, Pocket Books, New York, 1974. SBN 671-77720-3 "A Man with a Maid," Anonymous, Grove Press, Inc., New York, 1968. ISBN: 0-394-17479-8 "The Victorians in the Harem," Anonymous, Richard Manton, Editor, Grove Press Inc., 1986. ISBN: 0-394-62312-6 "Discipline & Punish," Michel Foucault, Trans. Alan Sheridan, Pantheon Books, New York, 1977. ISBN: 0-394-49942-5 "Lady Chatterley's Lover," D. H. Lawrence, The New American Library, Inc., New York, 1959. "The Proposal," Henry Sutton, Charter Books, New York, 1980. 0-441-68342-8 "9 1/2 Weeks," Elizabeth McNeill, Berkley Publishing Corp., New York, 1979. SBN: 425-04032-1 {Actually, one of the above books isn't about sex at all but I've always thought the title made it sound like one. Bonus kudos to those that can pick it out.} ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ End of Perverts and Weirdos Digest ************************ -------