Subject: Perverts and Weirdos Digest, v.1 #16 (ROT13)
Date: 14 Oct 88 03:01:10 GMT

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Date:          Tue, 20 Sep 88 11:50 EDT
From: Alexander
Subject:       Electric 'charge'
Contact: alexander1

I was wondering if anyone else out there actually becomes addicted to
electricity.  My example all started in a highschool physics class.  Our
teacher had a small voltage hand crank generator.  It had two circuits, one
to light a lightbulb, and another with two unconnected wires.  If the
exposed ends of these two wires were touched while the crank was turned, an
electric charge would flow through the body of the person holding the
wires.  What would usually take place was, all of us would stand in a line
and hold hands while the two people on the end would hold the wires.  Our
teacher would then crank the generator and you could feel the current flow
in one hand and out the other.  At first the experience was quite scary but
once you got past the initial pain of the first bolt going through your
body, it became a very pleasant experience.  We would reduce the number of
people in the line who 'couldn't handle it' thus making the current
stronger for us.  This process would continue until about 2 people were
left.  I was usually one of them.  I found it a great turn on and often
found myself getting 'aroused' while it was taking place.  I talked with
some of the other guys and they felt the same way.  I had a good female
friend in there and we discussed it and she said it did something for her
too.  She mentioned the word addiction and that is exactly what it was
becoming.  After a few sessions, we (about 5 of my closest friends)
couldn't wait to get into physics to be charged up again.

This may all sound bizarre I know but I'm not in to B&D nor S&M.  This
really wasn't painful, it was just a turn on.  Have any of you experienced
the same thing?  Please reply to mailbox "alexander1"

--Alex

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Date: Tue, 20 Sep 88 16:23:03 EDT
From: James
Subject: Bondage Games/Tickling

I have had several experiences with mild bondage, with a couple
of women.  One may have found it somewhat stimulating (it seemed
so at the time), but her intellectual reaction was negative, and
so while we tried various things (tying her hands to the bedstead,
tying her hands and ankles together, and then running another scarf
between them while she was on her hands and knees, peacock feather
tickling, ice cubes, coconut oil massage), we've rarely repeated
anything.  About sex in general, she takes the attitude "we can try
it once, but that will probably be all".  Thus, our usual coupling
involves not too much foreplay and the missionary position (I am a
lot more fit than she, and part of the problem is that I tire her
out - she has frequent orgasms, but doesn't like me to delay mine).

The other woman I have tried bondage with is somewhat more into sex
as sport/recreation/art.  She loves to be lightly bound (scarves tying
her wrists together or to the bedstead) while I lick her, tickle her
breasts with a feather, or fuck her.  She is somewhat less sensitive
than the first woman, but once she is excited enough she has multiple
orgasms until she is incoherent and on the point of passing out.

The first time I got out the peacock feather, I tickled her gently with
the edge, pausing every once in a while to tickle her neck and armpits,
or pull the stem of the feather through her labia and across her clit.
I kept this up for quite a while, she was not at all firmly bound but
getting into it so she wasn't trying to get away.  I had her frantic
before I lubed my fingers with coconut oil and fingered her for a while,
then brought her to orgasm several times with my tongue, and finally
climbed on top, and she said that her breasts ached for several days
thereafter.

We have usually used scarves (cotton), but sometimes she just wants me
to hold her wrists over her head while I fuck her.  Another time she had
a silly little set of leather wrist-cuffs connected by long lengths of
chain to a leather collar.  Nothing at all like restraint (she could move
her hands freely), but the symbolism was very powerful for both of us, and
she also reacted very strongly to my reaction.  It aroused me quite a bit
to brush the dangling chains across her body, particularly her breasts.

She likes to tease, too, but it is not so easy to tease a man (or at least
me).  Fellatio can be prolonged, and holding me back just as I am nearing
orgasm is like lightning striking, but I can only come once (unless she
leaves me tied long enough for me to recover, and she gets worked up enough
that she hasn't so far).  I guess I am also somewhat less into receiving
bondage than she is, and the fact that I can get away and that I trust her
may take the edge off it, I don't know.  Not that I haven't enjoyed what
I've done, nor would I resist going further, but it my experiences so far
haven't really set me on fire.  I guess I wish that I could also receive
the prolonged intense ecstasy that I can give, but the closest I have come
is one when time we petted and kissed intensely for a long time, to the point
that my balls ached.  Sex was quite intense once we finally got to a bed.

Why do I do it?  I like the symbolic submission to my touch and tongue,
that she surrenders her freedom and gets intense pleasure from so doing.
It also seems that if I have been teasing her for a long time, it is easier
for me to hold back my own orgasm and fuck for her pleasure until she's
begging me to come and I can't stand it anymore.  I like the kinky flavor
it adds to sex, once in a while...

James

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Date: Tue, 20 Sep 88 16:04:42 EDT
From: Eric
Subject: "Sensory Deprivation" Myths


Let's clear the air here:
I have a long interest in flotation restricted stimulation, and currently
have a flotation system in my basement.  The comments by "Sandy Locke" are
so wrong-headed that I feel they need correction.

> From: Sandy Locke
> Subject: Sensory Deprivation in Bondage
> 
> I've been toying with the idea of sensory deprivation techniques in sex-play.
> 
> I recently read _The Cardinal in the Kremlin_,  yet another Tom Clancy spy
> novel.  In _TCitK_ a minor spy-personage is "tortured" in this way.  In a
> [description of 1950's style experiment]

Of course Clancy uses the most sensational interpretation possible - he's
writing fiction.  Or did you believe the movie "Altered States" too?

> I had heard of experiments like this performed at the U. of MI several years
> ago.

Sounds mythological to me - they may have done something vaguely like this a
generation ago, but believe me things have changed since then - in the
environments used, but mostly in the mindset of experimenters.

> Anyway,  I was wondering if anyone had played with sensory deprivation to a
> lesser degree.  The techniques used for total sensory deprivation can be quite
> dangerous if not handled properly <insanity, panic which can cause heart attack
> and other consequences>.

False.  This mythology is left over from many psychology textbooks, which
continue to quote from *a single experiment* of the 1950's (do you know of
any other scientific area where this is done?).  These lazy authors ignore
a few hundred studies done since then, most showing positive or neutral
effects of "sensory deprivation" (an old name that is biased in itself).

Current research focuses on topics such as increased self-regulation of
hormonal systems, better ability to visualize, amelioration of arthritis
symptoms, and psychotherapy.  Nobody dies; nobody goes crazy; nobody panics.

> In professional experiments, the victim becomes disoriented, is
> able to follow orders and answer direct questions, but the brain's censorship
> circuits are <temporarily> nonfunctional.  This basicly places the victim under
> the total control of the first personality<ies> encountered after being
> released.

Totally bogus.  A "victim" only becomes disoriented if the experimenters
"expect" disorientation, leading to things like the famous "2/3 effect", where
the subjects would start to show negative effects 2/3 of the way through
the experiment *no matter how long* the experiment was, and even if they
didn't overtly "know" how long the experiment was going to be!

Also, you are confusing "brainwashing" with restricted stimulation (most
"brainwashing" involves sensory overload).  This confusion is common in
the popular consciousness; even Amnesty International made the same mistake
in a film on human rights abuses in Ireland.

Many people are nervous before experiencing flotation, but relax
once they find out how comfortable it really is (imagine a salt-waterbed
with no top to the mattress).  I find it to be one of the most relaxing
and invigorating activities I do.  I discover solutions to problems,
meditate, recover from physical or mental stress, listen to music or take naps.

> Any stimuli that occurs after freedom would be heightened immensely.

At last, a glimmer of truth.  Restricting stimuli can lead to increased
sensitivity, which naturally lends itself to sex. :-)

> Any ideas?

Do not go near "sensory deprivation" - your mindset is too out of touch
with what really can happen.  Re-educate yourself first.  Keep bondage
and restricted stimulation environments separate until you understand both.
Otherwise you are just flailing around in the dark. :-):-)

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From: The Master 
Subject: The Name of the Game is Dominance & Submission
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 88 22:39:04 PST
Contact: craig1


I want to thank Sunny for the vote of confidence.

I note that Sunny plans to drop her computer-only slaves.  I would be 
willing to encourage and help with ideas and tactics any woman who 
wishes to fill the vacuum Sunny's departure has left.  We should not 
leave the male slaves adrift.

To those females that are still considering the proposition, I am still
able to take on a few more slaves.  Send your fantasies to me and we
will begin a grand, erotic adventure.


Your master awaits.

Craig
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Date: Wed, 14 Sep 88 12:36:50 PST
From: Craig
Subject: Literature Survey
Contact: craig1

(I feel that this sort of thing would work here better than in the 
news group because the moderator can do just that, moderate and 
keep out the adolescent flames.  If he doesn't want to, he should 
"just say no.")

I thought the readership might find a list of informative and 
provocative literature interesting.  I can't claim to have the 
best collection in the world and my set may be slanted to one 
particular "perversion," but my selection might start a good 
discussion going.

First come the non-fiction.

"Everything You Always Wanted to Know about Sex," David Reuben, 
M.D., Bantam Books, New York, 1971.

"The Joy of Sex," Alex Comfort, M.B., Ph.D. Editor, Simon and 
Schuster, New York, 1972.
SBN 671-21649-X

"Total Message," Jack Hofer, Grosset & Dunlap, New York, 1976.

"Erotic Power, An Exploration of Dominance and Submission," Gini 
Graham Scott, Ph.D., Citadel Press, Secaucus, New Jersey, 1983.  
ISBN 0-8065-0968-6

"Imaginative Sex," John Norman, DAW Books, Inc., New York, 1974.
ISBN 0-87997-546-6

The Dr. Reuben book is a question and answer book.  A good introduction
to basic sex.  The questions are arranged by category and cover a wide
range of topics, including "Perversions."  It doesn't give a lot of
information on actually "how to do it" but still is worthwhile.

For one of the best "how to" books, try "The Joy of Sex."  This book
covers much of the mechanics of the pastime and is well illustrated.  A
couple could take this book and start with chapter one and proceed
through the book trying everything in order.  And it does include just
about everything from solo sex to group orgies.  A little something for
everyone and a must in every book collection.

While "Total Message" is not really a book about sex, it does have a
chapter on erotic messages.  I include it, however, because it deals
with keeping the body healthy and a nice message can enhance the sexual
possibilities.

"Erotic Power" is an academic description of what goes on in dominance
and submission (D&S) sex relationships.  Dr. Graham goes into a lot of
the rituals, do's and don'ts, and clubs of the D&S subculture.  The
primary emphasis is on dominate females and submissive males but the
alternate roles are touched on.  It is a scholarly work and does not
have a lot of graphic descriptions in it.  I recommend it highly for
those who want to really get into it.

Some of you may recognize the name John Norman.  He is the author of the
"GOR" series.  This book is really a distillation of the fantasies of
male/female relations in his novels.  Norman opens the book with a
series of essays on his philosophy of sex and then follows them with 53
scenarios for acting out the philosophy.  I recommend that the essays be
skipped and that the reader go straight for the fantasies.  If you're
into bondage, you'll get lots of ideas from his scenarios.  Some are
very imaginative.

Enough of the real stuff, on to the fantasies!

"Story of O", Pauline Reage, Trans. Sabine d'Estree, Grove Press, 
Inc., New York, 1965.  ISBN: 0-8021-4003-3

"Exit to Eden," Anne Rampling, Dell, New York, 1986.  ISBN: 0-440-
12392-5

"The Claiming of Sleeping Beauty," A. N. Roquelaure, E. P. Dutton, 
New York, 1983. ISBN: 0-525-48362-4

"The Story of O" is the classic S&M novel.  It is about a French chateau
where women are taken to be trained to be sex slaves of men.  The story
follows O from the time her boyfriend first takes her to the chateau
through her experiences there to her enslavement to another man.  It is
highly erotic but I recommend that no one ever try any of these things
at home.

For an updated variation of the same theme, "Exit to Eden" is to be
highly recommended.  This time it is the woman who wheels the whip and
the chateau becomes a club on an island where both men and women live
out their slave fantasies.  S&M plays less of a role "Exit" than in "O"
but "Exit" is in many ways more erotic.  The story is about the
interplay of one mistress and an overpowering male slave.

It is my understanding that Anne Rampling, A. N. Roquelaure and Anne
Rice are all the same writer, but the works under the name Roquelaure do
not do as much for me.  "The Claiming of Sleeping Beauty" continues the
fairy story after the prince has rescued her.  He takes her back to his
castle that has been setup to train the princes and princesses of
neighboring kingdoms in the fine art of submission.  If you're into
English Culture (Spanking), this is the book for you.  Somebody gets
spanked almost every other page.  "Beauty" is the first of a trilogy; I
do not have the other two.

This is all of the mini-reviews I can get out for now.  Below is the
list of other books I will try to review as time allows.  If anyone else
has read them and wishes to comment, please do.

"The Olympia Reader," Maurice Girodias, Editor, Grove Press, Inc., 
New York, 1965.

"Eros in Orbit," Joseph Elder, Editor, Pocket Books, New York, 
1974.
SBN 671-77720-3

"A Man with a Maid," Anonymous, Grove Press, Inc., New York, 1968.
ISBN: 0-394-17479-8

"The Victorians in the Harem," Anonymous, Richard Manton, Editor, 
Grove Press Inc., 1986.
ISBN: 0-394-62312-6

"Discipline & Punish," Michel Foucault, Trans. Alan Sheridan, 
Pantheon Books, New York, 1977.
ISBN: 0-394-49942-5

 "Lady Chatterley's Lover," D. H. Lawrence, The New American 
Library, Inc., New York, 1959.

"The Proposal," Henry Sutton, Charter Books, New York, 1980.
0-441-68342-8

"9 1/2 Weeks," Elizabeth McNeill, Berkley Publishing Corp., New 
York, 1979.
SBN: 425-04032-1

{Actually, one of the above books isn't about sex at all but I've always
thought the title made it sound like one.  Bonus kudos to those that can
pick it out.}

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