Subject: Perverts and Weirdos Digest, v.1 #10 (ROT13)
Date: 9 Sep 88 00:23:43 GMT

Perverts and Weirdos Digest, v.1 #10 (ROT13)    Thu Sep  8 20:23:27 EDT 1988


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Date: Sun, 04 Sep 88 15:14:58 PST
From: Craig
Subject: "Would you like to play a game?"
Contact: craig1

In order to make this work, I will need the contact service.

In my opinion, one of the best things about the alt.sex list, besides
P&W Digest, was the Computer Domination game.  Unfortunately, it seems
to have died out on the regular list.

For those readers that missed it, the game had two flavors.  One
approach was to send out news articles with the commands with the
"slaves" sending the stories either to the master or the news group.
This is the approach used for female players.  For the male, an email
interaction was used, male "slaves" receiving their commands directly
from the mistress.

I feel that the email approach is better.  I am offering to run an Email
Computer Domination game for interested women.  Having played the
"submissive" side, I think I can be a better than average Email Master.

Why do I think email is better?  It is at the same time more anonymous
and more personal.  The commands given can be tailored to desires and
secret longings of each individual slave in a way that general
broadcasts over a news group can not match.  It will be more anonymous
because only the two of us will know everything.  (Particularly good
sucess reports may be published in this digest, but only the good ones.)

What's in this for me?  I will consider it a challenge to see how far I
can take a slave before my commands exceed her limits.  How far can we
go?

What's in it for her?  She gets to explore the kinky, sexy world of D&S
with the protection of a "safety net."  Even if I went crazy with power
(not likely), I can not hurt her; she is in control of the action.

Interested women can contact me at whatever address the moderator has
set up.  Even if your interest is slight, it can't hurt to find out
more.

"A splendid time is guarantied for all."

[[ Plug time. For those who are interested in playing this game but
who want more privacy than is afforded by email, I would be willing
to publish the commands and responses in the Digest. This would allow
both Craig and his "slaves" to retain their anonymity. I know, I'm
shameless. Anything to get contributions. -dm ]]

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Date: Sun, 4 Sep 88 20:24:48 EDT
From: Robert & Susan
Subject: Responses to other posts
Contact: robert1

> From: M&M
> Like Robert & Susan, we are into bondage.  Actually, it is I who am
> into bondage, and my wife participates primarily because it thrills
> me, though she does enjoy herself.

That doesn't sound unusual.  I daresay your wife enjoys the "power"
she gains over you by "submitting" to your desires.  I enjoy giving
pleasure to Susan, and she in turn enjoys the passion that exchanging
control can bring to our love-making.  There is no way she wants to be
a full-time, scrub the floors kind of slave, but as a game that has
safe limits and whose purpose is to heighten both of our sexual
experiences she enjoys it very much.

> Unlike Robert & Susan, however, we are into "love bondage" - secure but
> gentle bondage, intended to restrain rather than cause discomfort or
> pain.

We have described in other posts the fine distinction between sharp
sensations and pain.  Neither of us is into pain.  Both Susan and I
would describe our games as "love bondage" hust as you do.  We
subscribe to Bondage Life, and believe that everything we do falls
squarely within the "Harmony Philosophy".  Perhaps one of us should
post this document to the Digest; I will merely quote the last
paragraph:

        Our bondage has absolutely nothing to do with demeaning
        anyone.  It is totally and utterly a bilateral activity,
        and, were it not, we wouldn't have anything to do with it.

                        Harmony Communications
                        Publishers of "Bondage Life" Magazine

This is, by the way, a completely first class magazine, and the contents
are suitable for enjoyment by both men and women, although it is 95%
about men tieing up women, there is ususally a one or two page spread
of men who have been tied up by women, and often at least one short
story involving female domination.  I've often thought that if Susan
and I should run out of material to post to this digest, we could
always send excerpts from the reader's letters section of Bondage Life.

> One thing I am looking for are ways to stimulate more interest on my
> wife's part.  She does like some of the pictures and letters in Bondage
> Life.  She also likes erotic videos, so I would like to find some which
> include bondage.  The Bondage Life people offer a number of videos, but
> there is no real sex.  "The Story of O" was something of a turn-on,
> but there was too much pain for either of our tastes.  Any ideas?

There is an unwritten law that says you can either have straight sex in
a video, or straight bondage with no actual penetration, but the two
shall not be found in the same film.  The closest you generally come is
a film that's mostly sex with one or two bondage or S&M scenes in it.
Here are some of the best bondage+sex scenes I've seen on video:

Best Bondage/Sex Scene in an X-rated film

        1001 Erotic Nights #2, dungeon scene

        This scene has it all.  A corset-clad dominatrix has a he-man
        stud strapped down on a big table.  She also has a pretty female
        slave, wearing a steel slave collar.  The female slave has her
        hands bound well behind her back, too.  The dominant female
        instructs the female slave to ride the male's cock.

Best Mental Domination in a non-violent film

        Seduction by Fire, More mental than physical domination, but hot

        This is a mostly straight sex film with no real bondage, but
        the woman is blindfolded and submits herself to the dominant
        man with real sex.  Very hot film.

Best bondage scene totaly unrelated to the film

        Barbara Broadcast, Constance Money, outtake from Misty Beethoven
        
        This film rips off "The Opening of Misty Beethoven" by just
        plain inserting a bondage/sex scene with Constance Money chained
        to a wall, fucked from behind, and then chained back to the wall
        and force to give head to Jamie Gillis.  Great scene, well worth
        the rental price of an otherwise so-so video, since it wasn't in
        the released version of "The Opening of Misty Beethoven."

Hottest Bondage/Whipping Action in a video

        The Bondage Club, #1, #2, #3

        Ona Z (who produces and stars in many of her own videos) has a
        series of 3 great videos.  They star real S&M / Bondage people
        in a half dozen short scenes in each video.  The action is split
        between bondage, whipping, vibrator action, and cunnilingus, but
        no real sex.  There is pain in a few scenes, but unlike "The
        Story of O", the pain is less intense, real as opposed to play-
        acted, and the recipient is clearly getting off on the action.
        The best part is the the action is real and the people involved
        seem to be enjoying it (not just doing it for money).

Most unusual way around the prohibition on Sex and Bondage together

        Oriental Play/S&M, digitally censored, but hot stuff

        Mole Video of Chicago has imported 7 videos from Japan.  I've
        only seen one (Oriental S&M #5), but it was great, and I've seen
        summaries of the others.  The most unusual thing is that it is
        illegal in Japan to show the genitals in a film, so they use a
        moving "big averaging raster" spot to obscure the genitals
        without totally removing the scene.  The good thing is that you
        know that the slave is really being fucked or is really giving
        the master head, and not just play-acting.  The bad thing is
        you can't see much of that.  Also, these films are more violent
        than I believe M&M would like.

Honorable Mentions

        Loose Ends #4, nipple/clit rings, bondage, sex

        A very hot film, starring Viper, who has the most amazing tattoo
        in bondage/S&M films today.  This gal has nipple rings and a
        ring through her clitoral hood.  She has a tattoo of a big
        snake that starts at her pussy and ends in an open mouth with
        fangs that look like they're about to bite her right nipple.

        Bruce Seven directed this film, and this guy knows his bondage.
        This film doesn't have as much bondage as you dream about, but
        as much as any other American X-rated sex film.
        


        Bizarre Styles, Forced "Deep Throat" blow job + whipping

        Starring Vanessa Del Rio, this film has a good forced blow-job
        scene, with bondage and whipping thrown in for a bonus.



        Terri's Lesson in bondage, Forced blow job + good bondage
        
        This film was made in 1979, before the rules about no mixing
        sex and bondage were so strict.  We see a good forced blow-job
        scene, with solid bondage action throughout the film.  The
        actress who plays the slave in this film was also in "Bound in
        Wedlock", which had only a smattering of sex, but is a good
        spanking/bondage/vibrator film.


Films with a bondage or S&M scene plus real sex

        Aerobisex Girls           1 scene, whipping, candle fucking
        The Initiation of Cynthia X frame vibrator excitement + straight sex
        Small Town Girls          lady on X frame, eaten, fucked
        Randy the Electric Lady   lady on sex machine plus real sex
        Submission of Serena      whipping and sex, with Jamie Gillis


Hope at least one of these films does the trick for you and your wife.

--
Robert & Susan
inco!alembic!robert1

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Date: Mon, 05 Sep 88 11:39:10 EDT
Subject: Backyard Barbecue
From: L
Contact: lady_l

I'll start by saying that I am a 21-year old college  senior
of  the  female  gender.   I  am  5'7"  and very thin at 107
pounds, with short, curly hair.  I am by no means a  virgin,
but  I  also  don't  have  all that many sexual experiences.
Summer vacation has finally ended, and being back at  school
is  really  great.   I go to a large northeastern university
where the sex is, in general, pretty scarce.  When  it  hap-
pens,  however,  it  is  all the more powerful for just that
reason.

     Not many students are back yet.  Most people are  still
enjoying  their summer vacations.  However, several athletic
teams, most notably the football  team,  have  returned  for
their  workouts.   My  roommate  and I love to hang out with
these guys, as they are a lot  of  fun  and  generally  hold
their  own in bed.  We usually watch some of their practices
and walk back to their dorms with them.  Two days ago, while
on  one of these walks, a really cute guy named Jim asked me
to the movies with him.  I had always liked him, but  he  is
quite  shy,  so  I  wasn't  sure  about  the  entire  thing.
Besides, my roommate used to have a big crush  on  him,  and
they even went out a few times, so I didn't want to make her
jealous.  I told him that I had plans for  the  next  night,
but that I'd try to break them.

     I later talked about it with my roommate, and she  sug-
gested  said  that  she  had  no  problem with it -- but she
warned me to "Be careful.   Don't  let  him  hurt  you."   I
didn't  know  what  she  meant  by that, so I pressed for an
explanation, but she wouldn't say anything more.  I  figured
that the risk might be worth the reward, so I called Jim and
made a date to go dancing.

     He picked me up the next night and we went to my favor-
ite  dance  club.  We worked up quite a sweat dancing, and I
was getting extremely horny.  The  same  was  happenning  to
him.   During the slow dances toward the end of the night he
would softly caress my ass while I rubbed my pelvis  against
his  groin.   I  realized  that either he was hard the whole
time or he had a real horsecock -- there was quite a  buldge
in  his  jeans.  As time went by I found that the latter was
true; it was too soft for anything else.  The  place  closed
at  2am,  and we went out the car with only one thing on our
minds: a great fuck.

     He drove to a secluded spot in the woods and we started
to  neck.   His hands dirfted across my small, firm breasts,
eventually unsnapping my bra.  I let my hands  fall  to  his
crotch  and slowly unzipped his jeans.  When my hand slipped
under his underwear I was amazed at what I found.  His  cock
was immense.  I have seen and felt several cocks in my time,
and none could compare with this.  I couldn't even  wrap  my
hand  around  it  and touch my forefinger and thumb -- there
was still about half  an  inch  between  them  even  when  I
squeezed  tightly.   I  knew  then  that  I  was  in  for an
interesting experience that night.

     He gently slipped his hand up my miniskirt and under my
panties.   We  were  both  groaning  in anticipation by now.
Unable to wait any longer I lowered my head to his cock  and
started  to  lick  up and down.  I attempted to put my mouth
over it, but it was just  too  thick  for  my  small  mouth.
Instead  I  licked,  nibbled,  and  sucked until he couldn't
stand it any longer.  He reached for his wallet  and  pulled
out  a  trojan that looked like it had been there for years.
The package was ripped and there was a  small  hole  in  the
thing.   Damn.   I wanted him inside me, but I was not about
to get pregnent in the process.

     The dissappointment slowed things down, but we  contin-
ued  to  neck.   His  fingers  explored my cunt and drove me
wild, but I was in need of something more.  At one point one
of  his  fingers  slipped  down  to  massage my asshole.  It
surprised me, but it felt nice after I got used to it.  Sud-
denly  he broke our embrace, looked me in the eye, and asked
me if I had ever been fucked in the ass.  My first  reaction
was  one  of shock.  No, I had never been fucked in the ass,
and even if I had that huge cock couldn't possibly fit in my
little  hole.   However,  I was in the mood to try something
new, and I really wanted to satisfy this guy who  had  shown
me  such a good time. I told him that I'd try it if he prom-
ised to be really gentle and stop if I asked him to.

     We got in the back seat and I laid down on my  stomach.
He  knelt  down and licked me all over my rear end, starting
on the outside of my cheeks and  working  toward  my  crack.
Eventually  he  reached  my  butthole,  which  he licked for
several minutes.  He even stuck his tongue in me,  and  that
felt  wonderful.   Finally he got up and laid down on top of
me.  I was really scared -- his cock seemed even bigger than
before.   He placed it against my virgin anus and started to
push.  I reached back  to  spread  my  cheeks  for  him  and
rotated  my  hips, hoping to help him gain entry.  It was no
use, however.  He was just too big.

     As a last-ditch effort I suggested that he put some  of
the hand cream I had in my purse on his dick and my ass.  He
smeared it all over the place, even getting some in my  rec-
tum  with  his  fingers.   Again we tried, and this time the
results were  different.   Slowly  the  virgin  tissue  that
guarded  my ass expanded to accept his oversized member.  My
face contorted in pain as I put my hand  against  his  hips,
preventing  him  from  further  penetration.   We  were both
breathing hard, and I groaned out load, trying to ignore the
searing  pain.   For  about a minute we remained motionless,
waiting for me to get used to having what felt like a  base-
ball bat being shoved up my ass.  I was about to tell him to
call it off, that I couldn't take it, when the pain  started
to  lessen.   It  was  only  a short while later that relief
blossomed all over me.  I turned to look at  him  and  asked
how  much  was  inside.  Just the head, he said, but that is
the toughest part.

     Slowly he forced the rest into me, and  although  tears
of  pain were rolling down my face, I was really starting to
enjoy it.  Only about three-quarters of it fit before he hit
bottom.   Again  we  rested for a couple of minutes, then he
began to pump.  At first I just laid there,  getting  accos-
tomed to the new feeling, but soon I began to meet his every
thrust.  This guy's stamina was amazing.  We went  for  fif-
teen minutes and I had to ask him to stop to put more lubri-
cation on.  When he pulled his  dick  from  my  asshole,  my
asshole  remained  open,  and  he  squirted  the  hand cream
directly into my rectum.  The cool liquid felt nice,  but  I
knew  that  the  relief  was  only temporary, as he was soon
shoving himself back inside me.

     He was thrusting with vicious force, pulling out  until
only the thick head was inside me then forcing himself in as
far as he could  go.   The  pleasure  and  pain  started  to
overwhelm  me,  and  I  came  like  I never have before.  My
once-tight anus squeezed down repeatedly  on  his  oversized
cock,  and  seconds  later  he too came, spurting shot after
shot of come deep into my bowels.  Some dribbled out  of  my
asshole and down the inside of my thighs.

     When he was done, we rested for a second, and  I  asked
him  to PLEASE take that huge thing out of me.  I sat up and
looked at his dick, and it was not as clean as it  had  been
half  an  hour  earlier.   What  the hell, I said, and again
lowered my head to suck on him.  Soon he  was  as  clean  as
ever,  and  then  he used a couple of tissues to wipe up the
hand cream that was all over my ass.

     As we drove home, his come and my butt juices  trickled
out of my asshole, but I was far too sore to try to stop it.
We kissed deeply when we got to my dorm, and he promised  to
call  me  in the morning.  I went into my room and droped my
clothes on the floor  before  climbing  into  bed  for  some
well-deserved rest.

     The next morning I woke up late.  My roommate, who  was
studying  at  her desk, looked over at me and asked if I was
sore.  "What do you mean by that?" I asked.  She pointed  at
my  soiled panites lying on the floor and explained that Jim
had done the same thing to her on her first date.  I  admit-
ted that I was very sore and asked how long it would last.

     "About a week," she  replied.   "Why  do  you  think  I
didn't  date  him more than I did?  I couldn't take it.  Are
you going to see him again?"

     "I don't know; I'll have to  think  about  it."   Well,
I've  been thinking about it while writing this, and I still
don't know.  It was incredibly exciting, but I  don't  think
my  body  can  stand too much of that.  My roommate tells me
that the hand cream was a good idea, as it will help  me  to
heal  more  quickly.   She also gave me a few tips on how to
ease things, if I ever do it again with him  (like  bring  a
condom  myself  so that my asshole doesn't have to take that
kind of abuse -- but I am not  sure  that  it  will  be  any
easier in my cunt).

     Anybody else have any experiences with buttfucking?  Or
any  ideas  on  how  I  might make things a little easier on
myself if I let him in my back  door  again?   Let  me  know
through the contact service, or post your experiences here.
                                           L.

[[ Sorry about that title, but "article" just isn't descriptive enough
and I have this unfortunate weakness for sophomoric jokes. -dm ]]

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