Subject: P&W Digest archive/v1n4
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 88 14:46:01 EDT
Perverts and Weirdos Digest, v.1 #4 (ROT13) Sun Aug 7 21:32:14 EDT 1988
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From: Doug
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 88 00:08:27 PDT
Subject: Response to Robert & Susan's Letter
After I decoded your file, I read it. I usually don't
read articles over a page, but since I spend 3 days trying to
figure it out, you can bet I read every word!!!
I'm really interested in bondage with someone who won't get
too bent out of shape if I try it. I have never experienced it
before but I have friends who tell me about it. (By the way,
your observations of Catholic girls are *very* accurate! I had
one too and I think they all have this infatuation about penises.)
When you mention one SO you tied up to help her have multiple orgasms
because she wouldn't let herself go if untied, it reminded me of my recent
ex-SO. She would really get off when I masturbated her, but she
always would stop before she climaxed. After a while it really
started to split us apart. She said that she doesn't like to
feel that she is out of control, and she was probably a bit scared
to actually let herself go that far. I told her if she didn't
feel she could have an orgasm with me, she didn't trust me w/
her, and she said that was not so, and I think you know what
happened from there.
Anyway, I'm not into violence or anything, but I've thought
often about the idea of tying a woman up and seeing how excited
I could get her. If I had a choice, I would want it to be a
woman that I never met before, sort of like the burgular or
kidnapping scenarios you mentioned. Attractive women are of course
a turn-on, but MY biggest turn-on is when a woman really gets off.
The more noise and action the better!
Unfortunately, a think a good bonding session would have to
last several hours. Being in college and always
having a roommate since I was a freshman, (I'm a senior now)
it seemed that having sex with someone in my room had to be
accomplished in a reasonable amount of time, since I was always
expecting someone to come back. I could never work out my
roommate leaving for a weekend and having a girlfriend over.
I always seemed to be single then!! And you can bet that
as soon as I found one, it seemed we could never be alone.
You also mentioned that you are uncomfortable being naked
with guys in the room. That's probably why I never actively pursued
orgies with groups of people. I'm a pretty good-looking
confident guy that is not hung up on my sexual orientations,
but I just can't be comfortable with guys involved. It
must be psychological, because I guess someone truly not
insecure with their sexuality would have no problem with
encounters with the same sex. It's really biased that I
would have no problem with a group of girls only, but
that's the way I am, an old-fashioned kind of guy! :-)
Well, keep the encrypted postings coming, because I
really want to read them! I think being tied up would
be a real rush with a girl who was experienced in
bondage. Wish me luck.
Doug
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Date: Sat, 6 Aug 1988 00:31-EDT
From: Robert & Susan
Subject: What's my perversion, part 2
Summary: How about some more contributions, people
We were glad to read Dave's post in P&W #3, but are otherwise
disappointed with the low level of traffic in P&W Digest. So here is
an excerpt from a letter we sent to one of the B&D couples with whom we
correspond. Sorry there aren't any photos, but we have so far neither
the technology to scan images nor the permission of our correspondents
to publish. Remember anyway that the Supreme Court has ruled that text
alone cannot be considered obscene (although photos and sculpture can
be).
There are two more letters in this discussion, and they will be posted
to P&W Digest, along with some quotes from the other couples letters
(carefully edited to avoid disclosing anything confidential).
We would appreciate it if you send a note to the Digest just to say
that you read our post. With the alt.sex group so fragmented, we have
no idea how many people will get this.
Robert & Susan
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Dear <couple>,
We are Robert and Susan, a Master/Slave couple here in the <city> area.
We saw your ad <number> in both B&D Pleazures (and <number> in
SM-Express). I am 26 and my wife Susan is 28. We have been in the
bondage scene for 5 years now, and although we haven't been very active
lately, we were intrigued to find another such couple in <city> and
had to write. We mainly correspond now, since our oldest child is now
out of the crib and it's hard for us to get away from the kids. Still,
we maintain contact with several couples across the US, and we get most
of our bondage "kicks" vicariously.
As you can see from the photos we have enclosed, Susan is a beautiful
slave, and she makes a lovely Christmas present (Sorry about covering
her face, but we must be very discreet, since we are both in business).
This photo is from an all day Christmas present she gave me several
years ago. She spent the whole day my bound and available slave. It
was the first time she'd ever been bound that long and that many
different ways in one session. Whenever I'd snap my fingers she would
run to me and kneel before me. I'd force her to bend over and swat her
behind with a leather covered ping-pong paddle. And I would then force
her to give me "slave service".
This is one of my favorite sessions. Susan has her hands bound tightly
behind her back. Sometimes her tits are free, and at others they are
tightly bound (with clothespins or clamps clipped to her swollen
nipples). I lie on my back in the middle of our playroom and she
straddles my cock with her pussy. She must then move according to my
command, and she must stop moving upon my command as well! That is
the hardest for her, but I make her kneel stock still while she is
impaled on my rod until she begs to be allowed to move. It is hard for
me to hold back, but again and again she must freeze her position until
I can take no more. If she moves at the wrong time or fails to follow
my commands to the letter I spank her ass or give a sharp jerk on the
nipple clamps to correct her.
We have tried public bondage and humiliation, and while I thrill to
thought of Susan's condition being separated from the world's attention
by the thinness of a silk blouse or the gleam in the windshield as we
drive down the road, these games are usually too much for her, and are
only used when she has been very bad and needs severe discipline. At
drive-in movies she is a wanton slut, but one time I made her wear her
chastity belt under a short, slit skirt while we went to a show at a
local mall. Since it was a matinee at an R rated film, there were no
kids and only a few older people in the seats. As the lights dimmed
and the picture started, I secured her hands behind her back and spread
the folds of her skirt out and played with her clit while telling her
to keep still. The only thing protecting her "secret" was the
attention of the audience to the film, for she was plainly in view.
This was about as wild as we ever got, and she was horrified (but very
wet) by the time the picture was over. She wanted to stand up and
leave, but she could very well do that with her hands behind her back,
and I wasn't helping her to cover herself. It was a delicious day for me.
We'd like to hear about some of the sessions you and your slave have
had. If you're truly interested in "expanding her horizons," perhaps
we can give you some ideas that we haven't been able to try ourselves
(at least until our youngest is old enough for a sitter). We won't
suggest anything now, because we don't know your tastes yet, but we're
sure you won't be disappointed at the deviousness of our ideas. Susan
is an experienced submissive, so she is very good at thinking up things
that stretch her abilities as a slave. Perhaps she can stretch your
slaves abilities as well.
We'd also like to see more shots of your slave in bondage. We only have
a few photos to exchange, but perhaps we can work something out. We
would really like to correspond with you two. We have enclosed an SASE.
<address withheld according to moderator's wishes>
[[ A minor clarification: I am perfectly willing to publish personal
information, such as Robert and Susan's PO Box number, if they really
want me to. I am being perhaps overly cautious in these early issues
because it isn't clear that people understand how the Digest works.
If you *really* want personal information published in the Digest,
I am willing to do this, but I would prefer that you send a separate
note confirming your intent. As I have mentioned in earlier issues,
I think publication of personal information is a bad idea. I proposed
the idea of a contact service a while back, but I haven't gotten any
feedback yet. How about it people? Comments? - dm ]]
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