This story is about, by, and for legal adults. Read it only if you are one. by M.Gregg -- My orginal Craigslist post read like this: Supply your wife to me -- I return her to you well-used ... - m4mw This can work several ways: - You simply send her to me 'sight unseen' ... I return her to you looking and smelling an utter mess and still gaping, but it will be up to her how much to tell you about what happened. - You bring her to me (probably in public), and then you either come back with us to watch or just go home after you see her leave with me -- I send her back to you when I am done with her, or perhaps she even has you on the phone to hear her as her body is ravaged. - Or I could just come to you, and you either just watch or participate while I take her. You might even have her trussed and greased so that when I arrive I just sink straight into her -- your choice whether to blinfold her with loud headphone music or let her see what is happening to her. And your choice whether to be wearing her panties during this ... I leave that up to the two of you, naturally. I am white, professional, 39, married, thickly hung -- and have a strong appetite for another man's woman from time to time. So I am experienced and will make sure she is left satisfied, shaking and weak-kneed by the time you get her back. Looking forward ... --- The messages that followed were: Re: Provide your wife Very interesting- I like your idea. I recently posted an ad looking for a guy to come over and fuck my girlfriend while she's tied up and helpless, since watching her get used like a piece of meat, getting fucked in all her holes while she squirms against the ropes, would really turn me on. But I'm also liking your idea, of making her voluntarily go to you and get abused without me even knowing exactly what happened. I attached a pic related to my own scenario. As you can see, she's fucking hot. I rather like the idea of us meeting in a bar, letting you feel her up (short skirt, no panties, low cut blouse, no bra) and making her feel YOU up, and then you taking her wherever you want to take her for whatever you want to do with her, sending her home later. Tell me about yourself- build, endowment, location, that kind of thing. -- Hello ... thanks for taking the first step. Certainly you got 100s (or 1000s) of responses to such a hot girlfriend -- especially with your binding technique that leaves her accessible in all openings and from any angle. And thanks for the photo -- I got thick as soon as it opened. Of course your idea is great, too -- you having her trussed up like a present for me when I arrive would insure that she got filled over and over as I took her totally. I am I am 39, professional, white, and usually kind of soft-in-the-middle good guy -- who has the pent up appetite of a satyr for being bad with another man's woman from time to time -- and ample equipment to etch in her memory being taken and nearly battered. My corporate hotel (long-term work in town) is downtown -- so you bringing her to me at one of the pubs off of Wall or Hanover streets would let us give the lingering stock traders glimpses under her skirt before I take her up -- and take her. You could just let me know any special requests about how to send her back to you before we leave you to finish your drink. Of course, if she is too 'tied up', I could come to where you are ... When would you like to do this? -Greg -- Great, meeting at a bar down there would be great, and humiliating for her to get fondled and partially exposed in the middle of a bunch of drunk business guys. I like the idea of meeting there, getting warmed up like that, and then you two departing, leaving me behind. You can do absolutely whatever you'd like to do, the more depraved the better, as far as I'm concerned. As for sending her home, I appreciate your question of special requests. Interesting- the revealing outfit I'll have her in at first will still be good for the trip home, so what else? How about if you come in her hair and not let her clean it out before leaving. Actually, don't let her clean up at ALL before leaving, so she'll smell of sex. I'll throw her in the shower when she gets home, but the trip back will be, umm, fun, for her. GRIN. She stays waxed in general, but I'll be sure she's done it freshly before we meet. Any other requests? -- Perfect ... you hit the nail exactly on the head. The only other things I can think of are: - She will probably want to arrive with her ass well-lubed since I am thick and will sink all the way in on my first stroke -- so that my balls slap against her pussy - I should know if she is accustomed to taking my warm pee on her body, on her face, and in her mouth, since this will probably be the final thing before I send her back to you -- she will step back onto the street still damp (in several ways) - It would be best if she prepared by thoroughly cleaning out her pussy and intestines - it will make us all more aware that that I am going to soil them - What are your names? There is a pub on Stone Street that is about the right amount of busy and just dark/light enough -- so when can you bring her to me? I am here tonight, then out of town this weekend, and return late Sunday for next week. Looking forward ... -Gregg -- Very nice- likewise, we're on the same wavelength. Lubed ass- you got it. Two options- just lubed, or with a butt plug inserted. How big are you? Sliding right in on the first stroke is great, but if you're big enough, then maybe I can have her arrive with the plug. Pee- that's excellent, I'm glad you mentioned it. We do some watersports, so she's accustomed to it. Go for it as you said- on her or in her is all good. I don't recall if I'd mentioned, but my plan for having a guy/guys come over and do her while she's tied up includes strapping a funnel and tube into her mouth so I can piss into it while she's getting fucked, forced her to swallow it or let it pour out onto herself. If you have a method to force the swallowing, be my guest. I don't think she'd do it willingly, though, so you might have to be creative. And I REALLY like piss being the final step so she reeks of it going home. If you can soak her blouse and skirt, it'll be like a wet tshirt setup. GRIN. Cleaned out throughly- yes, makes sense. No problem. I'm John, she's Catherine. Anything else to clear upfront? Timingwise, tonight's too soon, so let's figure it out when you're back. I'm very excited about this- I haven't decided yet just what to tell her upfront- any ideas? -- Hi, John I like your idea: Of course plugged would be perfect ... we will even play with the plug a little in the pub. One that gives her just a little discomfort and opens her enough so she is ready for me would be perfect, since I am thick enough that she will still feel me forcing my way in. For this scene I actually prefer for her not to swallow my pee, since spilling over her face and down her body will leave her more of a mess as she heads back to you. Perhaps another time you will truss her with her head imobilized and we will both use her as a toilet after we are done with her. And one other thing: Is she right- or left-handed? I will have her masturbate herself with her opposite hand ... once that frustrates her for long enough, are there any special 'tweaks' I should know about to send her right over the edge? In terms of what to tell her, good question: You know what is the biggest turn on for you and also what will have her at the peak of wetness when you hand her over to me. I just need her to know you are providing her for me to use thoroughly and send back afterward. I like the idea of her imagination swirling. Anything else you can use to spice up your weekend and keep her in a heightened, tense state will be great -- perhaps murmuring things from our email exchanges to her from time to time. How about we set a day and time for next week -- this will let us all have an excruciating but thrilling 'countdown' over the whole weekend ... -Gregg -- VERY well said about later on using her immobilized head as a toilet. I LIKE it! We'll have to think about how to rig it so she HAS to swallow in that case. Some kind of bondage mask? I've always wanted to figure out a way also, probably upside down to some degree, so a tube will carry the piss straight into her mouth in a similar fashion, so she has to take it right back in. But anyway- butt plug it is, and toying with it in the pub, in public, is hot. Do you really think that she'll still find it tough to take you there? I guess it depends partly on the size of the plug, but in any case it doesn't really matter- sliding right in in one motion, no matter how difficult for her, is hot, I grant you that. Handedness- she's right handed. You seriously have some fine ideas, I have to say. Any other tweaks? She gets off on having both her pussy and ass filled at the same time, whatever the object. She has rather sensitive nipples, too, so you can use that for her pleasure or for her torment. :) I'll have to think about how exactly to get her excited, and apprehensive. What would you think about a blindfold in the pub? Maybe too weird. At least I could TAKE her there blindfolded to she doesn't know where she is, and take it off once inside. As for the schedule- did you say that you're around next week, or the following? Let me check on both of our schedule, and see if I can get her to get rewaxed sometime soon. Damn, hot hot hot! -- "Damn hot" indeed ... I return from the weekend on Monday morning, any time next week will be good -- and I will make sure I have what we need to fill her front and back at the same time. Thanks for the tip -- you insured that her nipples will get a good workout, too. The blindfold sounds wonderful -- I think that you are right about not having it on inside of the bar itself, and since Stone street actually is cobblestones, it will already be a little tricky for her to negotiate in her heels. However, perhaps we can let her know that same blindfold will be on her face another time to keep her from knowing which of us is using her when you have her tied up. So I really like the symbolism of you removing her mask and giving her to me with her 'eyes wide open' . And that reminds me: I prefer that she is a clear-headed and present as possible, in order to enjoy every moment of being taken -- but if you think it will be best for your preparation to include drinks before you leave and then some for lubrication at the bar, that will be good too. I definitely appreciate your getting her waxed for me -- it will be one of the first things I enjoy in the pub. Oh, and I was thinking: Perhaps after you leave the bar you could visit one or two of the good sex toys shops here and get their advice about forcing her to imbibe -- something simple like a dental clamp that keeps her jaw open and a clothespin on her nose might be enough to do the trick. What a way to spend your time while she is with me ... knowing that she will be tasting my pee around the same time you are planning for the next romp. Just let me know when you are looking to provide her ... -Gregg -- Very good- I'll see what I can figure out about our schedules. Where exactly is the pub you're talking about? Along the same lines as filling all her holes, try making her blow the dildo after you fuck her with it. :) As for being clear-headed, yes, that makes sense. I'll have to see how the preparation goes as to whether I'll have her have a drink or two beforehand. Perhaps at home so that she's a bit tipsy, but so it'll wear off before you get her alone. Actually, her being a bit drunk in the pub will probably make it more fun for all of us, as long as it's not so much that she's not sober later. Nice idea about checking out the shops while she's with you. I'm actually going to start checking into that now. I also want to start picking out what clothes of hers I'll have her wear. Do you have preferences? Our little toilet. :) -- The place I am thinking about is usually has a good 'buzz' and is pretty dim ... and is just a couple of blocks from where I am taking her. And yes, having her tipsy enough to be a little loose there in public sounds like fun. OK, I'll look to find a dildo that is about the same size / shape as me, and swap my cock and it in her mouth after she comes on it. And probably send her back to you with it ... as kind of a souvenir for you both(?) And how accommodating: I am sure you know best what she looks the most like a fuck-toy wearing. I actually prefer clothes that leave her totally accessible and make her feel available but at first glance look normal -- kind of a peek-a-boo effect. Clearly you will make the right choice of what to put her in. I am looking forward to her ... -Gregg -- Just a quick note before we head out for a few hours- I wanted to let you know that I've been thinking about your comments about preferring easy access outfits, and so I'm having her dress today in a short skirt (mid-thigh), no panties, and a thin white blouse that's midriff baring and also low cut enough that when she bends over, anyone right in front of her gets a clear shot of her dangling tits. I have her dress specially in various ways when we go out sometimes, but this one is kind of a trial run for meeting in the pub. It looks fairly normal at first glance (hot, though!), and it obviously provides easy access. Extra bonus is that if she gets sweaty the top gets a bit see through. I'm going to see if I can get her worked up while we're out and see how visible it is given that her cunt is exposed under the skirt, and her nipples are practically free. So thank you for the ideas. I'll let you know later how the trip went. -- Oh man, John ... I just returned to town after the weekend, and what an image to come back to ... thanks for letting me know and planting that picture in my mind. Such a hot day must have been perfect timing to take her out like that. I look forward to hearing how the 'trial run' went. She would look like so many other women enjoying the day -- until you had her bend over of course, leaving her suddenly open and exposed. The response of any men you displayed her to would be obvious -- especially on a day with so much flesh already all around them -- but the sudden flush the other women get also fascinates me ... probably a combination of envy, lust, and thinking of themselves in her place. Being out at the peak of the day, I imagine her thin white blouse would tend to practically disappear as she warms up and gets a thin sheen of perspiration on her skin ... Looking forward ... -GreggL -- Well, Gregg, yesterday was fun indeed. :) Damn. We went to Central Park first and walked in the sun. It was so hot and humid that she started getting sweaty right really quickly, and I was intentionally walking fast. We took a break on a little sloping hill where lots of people were hanging out, and I instructed her to sit with her legs bent up, arms around her knees kind of thing, legs slightly spread. With no panties, and such a short skirt, that left her exposed to anyone right in front of her. And yes, people did notice. It was quite a sight to see both men and women do a doubletake when they saw. At first she'd try to close her legs in embarassment, but I didn't let her. Some guys actually just stood there, a few yards away, and just stared. Eventually, though, we left and went over to the UWS. By this time the thin material WAS soaked with sweat, and her nipples were both sticking out through the fabric, and clearly visible through the nearly transparent fabric. At one point I had her walk a bit ahead of me, having been instructed to periodically stop and bend over as if adjusting her sandal. THAT was quite a sight, too. It rode up to JUST below her pussy, but a couple times a gust of wind blew it up over her ass, giving people a flash of her clearly moist and glistening pussy before she smoothed it back down. Damn. I wanted to show off her tits more clearly than just through the fabric, so at various points when we'd see people of either sex sitting on a bench or something, I'd make her bend over to ask them directions- much lower than you'd need to, which probably made it clear why she was doing it, because it gave a CLEAR view of them. Again it was hot seeing peoples reactions. I was THIS close to actually asking people if they like what they see, and if they'd like a discreet feel, but I thought I'd best save that. So wow, good day. I sent you the pic of her tits bound up, didn't I? -- Almost forgot- when we got home we were both hot in more than one way, so I tied her bent over the back of the couch, legs spread wide, arms tied to the legs on the front. To torture her, though, I only fucked her ass. I used my hand on her cunt to get her off, but as much as she begged, I didn't fuck it. I love fucking her ass the same way and as hard as her pussy, but I'll usually do both. Hot! -- Hot indeed, John ... I am both glad and excited your trip out went so well -- I already knew I like your style, but having her just sit there with her arms around her knees with her legs parted is brilliant. And how dark did her nipples appear beneath the white fabric in the bright afternoon sunlight? Leaving the inside of her pussy throbbing after you unloaded into her ass sounds wonderfully excruciating ... especially when her legs are pulled apart with her tits and head hanging over the the other side of the couch. Thanks again for that visual(!) And to answer your question, the photo of her was in your first message, showing her bound on a bed with her wrists attached to her ankles and her upper arms to her knees -- the way I am thinking that you will prepare her sometime when you have me over and 'spring' me on her after she is trussed and open. Looking even more forward, if that is possible ... -Gregg -- No problem. :) In the direct sunlight her nipples, and breasts generally, were virtually as clear as with nothing on. She got quite sweaty sitting in the sun and walking around for so long, and I helped by rubbing the material against her to sop up the sweat, so it was really visible. Even better when her nipples were hard. Actually it was hot seeing her from behind, too, since the dress would stick to her asscheeks and up the crack. Very very fine. Yes, it was fun to torment her by not fucking her pussy. She was actually creaming down her legs, and after I came in her ass, I left her there as the come dribbled out. It really was nice having her tits hanging down on the other side- I gave them a nice mauling while pounding her ass, telling her what a slut she is for showing her body off to strangers all day, and getting turned on by it. It sounds like I didn't send this pic yet? I should have- now you can better picture how her tits were on display yesterday (without the ropes, of course). This week doesn't look like it'll lend itself to our plan, but I probably will have more opportunity to prep her by putting her on display like yesterday. Any suggestions on what I might have her do to perhaps lower her resistance for the main event in the pub and later with you? -- Fantastic shot ... it looks like you have just the right touch -- making each teat bulge and protrude without overdoing it so that they immediately turn blue. The contrast of her soft flesh with the coiled rope is a real stiffener -- set off by the dainty looking necklace. Thanks for sending that ... as well as for your description of her dress painting itself to her ass as she strode in the sun. And the notion of your come sliding out of her ass and down to her steaming unfulfilled pussy sounds positively crazy-making for her. Even though I would love to spend hours binding her thoroughly, I will wait until you lash her to the furniture and invite me over to have her that way. Her being physically unrestrained with me will emphasize that you have given her over to my possession, and that she is willing submitting to you in being taken by me. Plus I have plans for what to have her do with her free hands anyway ... I am certainly glad you are enjoying the "preparations" for bringing her to me -- following the track you are on by continuing the escalation toward her handover sounds perfect to me. Perhaps including: - Putting clips, clamps, or chains on her nipples when wearing a similar blouse in public (nothing severe or threatening looking -- just enough for her to feel the rush when each one is removed) ... or of course for her pussy or clit - Maybe some trips out will include her being greased and plugged, so she get a little used to walking and sitting with it out -- and to you occasionally playing with it when it seems she may have grown too accustomed to it - Letting her have some 'incidental' contact with others to heighten her sensations ... pressing her ass against a business man's wool-suited crotch in a crowded subway train long enough for him to feel the heat radiating from her pussy; 'accidentally' brushing her nipples against a man's arm as she passes him standing in a local bar ... then making sure to 'reward' her for these things with a kiss, a tweak of her nipple or brush of her clit, or a murmur about what you will do to her shortly. - Say to her (in the way that she will really knows it) that you not only 'want' to give her over to be used by another man, but that you crave it so deeply and that she can give this to you as a powerful extension of her giving her body to you -- and that you will insure she is safely secure so that she can abandon herself totally to being so completely used. - While you are out, have part of the foreplay be for her to talk to you about being given over by you and taken by other men ... have her imagine several different scenarios with different men and different cocks. Then guide her to one that has her going off with a man you select, whether she is attracted or not being irrelevant ... and another with you bringing a man to her when she is already tied down for him. Have her casually rest her palm on your cock while she speaks, in order to feel what makes you twitch the most as you both picture that same hand (not to mention lips, tits, etc.) wrapped around another man's cock. - As long as you can stand it, continue what you started yesterday by making her pussy crave cock ... make her come any other way when she is so hot, and let her feel your warm come flowing over the rest of her body (even coming on the outside of her pussy lips, perhaps) ... and keep telling her this is so she is ready to take another man into her. She will believe you more and more until a combination of her own lust and her desire to please you will have her ready for you to deliver her to me ... and it sounds like you will have fun in the meantime. -Gregg -- Thank you Gregg, that was an excellent list of ideas. I especially like the idea of going out with her lubed and plugged. I can't get the idea of approaching guys who are checking her out and offering them a quick feel or something. That'd be sure to loosed her inhibitions. But anyway, with the plug, even just flashing guys (and girls!) with the sight of that will be hot. I also like the idea of pressing her against people in crowded situations. On the train could be good- position her with her back to a guy, and I'd be in front of her, facing her, and be really close so she'd have to bump against him. He'd be sure to get hard, and it'd be pressing against her ass. I could go a step further, too, and have her guide his hand to her hips or ass, or myself pulling up the back of her skirt and pointing it out to him. Great thinking also about putting the idea of giving her to you, how much it means to me, etc., and getting her hot for that. Thanks, I'll let you know! -- Yes ... a man trapped in his slacks with her ass gently pressing and rubbing against his straining cock would go absolutely nuts when you slowly raise her skirt so he sees the protruding base of the plug. And perhaps some plausibly 'innocent' way of getting strangers to touch her -- maybe not even her tits, pussy or ass -- but perhaps her bare warm belly skin ... just inches through the thin fabric to her smooth pussy ... Or I suppose something disingenuous but direct like stepping a few feet away so she can't hear you to tell couple of guys that she feels 'insecure' about her breasts and inviting them to step straight up to her and handle both tits, hefting them in their palms and manipulating her nipples with their fingers -- then 'reassuring' her they are lovely. You would of course just have her stand and look straight at them while they handle her ... maybe you even hold her hands behind her so that she thrusts her chest out and presents herself to them ... -Gregg -- Great ideas, Gregg. What innocent ways are there to get strangers to touch her, like her belly? Interesting. Maybe giving a story like that she's trying a new body lotion for smooth skin, and we were wondering the guy's, or girl's, opinion. Then encourage them to rub her stomach and further up. I could have her wear a skirt that sits really low on the hips, and a short shirt, so there's a lot of area to feel up. If they seem bold, I could slyly tell them that she uses it on her breasts, too, and ask if they could see how that feels as well. That could really be hot- I'd love to get women to do it as well. The legs would work, too, in which case I'd have her wear a really short skirt and have her sit on a some kind of high seat, like maybe a fence, so that when they bent down to feel her legs they could get a shot of her bare pussy. And again if they're bold, they could let their hands wander. Similar to your asking people to fondle her breasts explicitly, which is an excellent idea. Especially me holding her arms behind her back, thrusting her tits out, and not letting her move. Where do you think would be the best place for that- a bar? Or on the street? Thanks for the ideas- I will put some into action. -- Gregg- I was thinking more about the subway scenario, and was thinking about the possibility of actually having sex on a crowded train. The trick would be block the side view, even though it'd have to be on a shoulder to shoulder crowded train. Perhaps if one of both of us was holding some kind of large shopping bag on either side, then she'd have her back to me, with a short skirt and no panties, of course. I could just pull out my dick and slide it in pretty easily I'd think. Wouldn't even have to really thrust, since the motion of the train would probably be good enough. You think that's doable? Ideally I'd come in her, and then let it just dribble down her legs as we walk around afterwards. -- Yow, John ... your plotting is extraordinarily vivid. I imagine that she would be all the way at one end of a busy train car and when it was time you would press her up again the glass of the door, mashing her breasts and pinning her while you plunged straight into her. I think you would need to be totally ready to blast so it would only take a few strokes before you fill her. You would draw yourself out quickly then and have your cock back in your shorts while you are still throbbing -- surprising her and alarming her as she realizes her ass is exposed to to the whole rest of the train while she faces away, so that she needs to smooth down her skirt so everyone does not see the combination of her and your juices running down her thigh -- not right away anyway. Perhaps if you can really time it right you can then swiftly step off when the doors open, telling her you are leaving her to ride to the next stop and walk back to you above ground. Hopefully her knees are shaky and she looks as mussed and just-fucked as she actually is as she makes her way back to you -- and since she will continue to be unfulfilled deep in her pussy, as she walks back she will be involuntarily be looking at every man's crotch as she passes them on the sidewalk ... craving cock even as she wonders if they can see (or smell) your come sliding out of her. I am out of the City on Saturday and Sunday, returning Monday ... so shall we set a 'play date' for next week? -Gregg -- Very nice about the subway, Gregg. You're quite vivid yourself. I wanted to tell you about last night, which was pretty damn good. I told her what to wear and to meet me after work at the corner of Astor Place, right by the Kmart there. I told her to wear heels, black fishnet thighhighs, a red micromini skirt, and a short white mesh shirt, with no undergarments of any sort. :) The shirt leaves her belly completely bare, and has a scoop neck. It's not such an open mesh that she's completely visible, but enough that you can actually see her nipples poking through when they get hard, and in the right light you can clearly make out her breasts. She's never gone out with nothing underneath that before, but given our fun this past weekend, she was willing. So as you can imagine, she was quite a sight. Not totally out of the ordinary in NYC, but still unusually smoking. I watched her from down the street when I first got there, and got a kick out of seeing her get stared at by everyone that walked by. A number of guys seemed to try to talk to her, but she blew them off (she told me later that as you might expect, they basically all made sexual offers). When I finally met her, she admitted that she was pretty hot just from being on such display. I pulled her to me and started kissing her hard, feeling up her ass at the same time. Her skirt was so short that I pulled it up a bit, too, to massage her bare ass briefly. I felt up her breasts, and at the very end slipped a hand under her skirt and shoved two fingers into her and right back out. She was absolutely dripping, and I could feel, and see, it on her thigh. We walked around a bit to show off, but I didn't ask anyone to feel her up as we're thinking of. On the train home we sat with her right next to some business guy, and I whispered to her to sit touching him, and let her leg touch his, which she complied with. She was really in the spirit, and let her legs open enough that the assorted people sitting across from us could get a look at her cunt, which they sure did. :) Fun time. As for next week- yes, that's great. I'll arrange for her to have the waxing done perhaps midweek, if we can arrange a time at the end of the week? -- Ooof, John ... you two must be 'tuckered out' after all of this ... and also looking forward to your weekend. Putting her on display like that, right on the busy sidewalk on a hot sticky night, with nothing to do but wait while her pussy churned as men and women both gaped at her body -- must have gotten you both rarin' to go by the time you returned home ... especially after the electricity of your quickly dipping two fingers into her right out there. Maybe next time have her taste herself off of your fingers right there on the street, looking straight at you while she does so of course. Maybe on the way back from getting her waxed you can take her out similarly, with her tender pussy lips oiled up and pulsing ... not knowing for sure if you are going to give her any cock at the end of it or again leave her cunt unfilled as you did last weekend. And the man who she rested her thigh against on the train must have been going nuts -- wanting to be close to her and straining inside his shorts, but also wanting to be across the train to see up her skirt between her parted legs. Anyway, Wednesday and Thursday evenings are best for me next week -- just let me know when you are looking to bring her to me. Maybe around dusk is about right ... what time are you thinking of? Looking forward ... -Gregg -- Gregg- you'd said Thursday will be good for you? We could meet you at the pub you mentioned about 7:30 or so? Does that work for you? I'm going to be working on her between now and then, ramping up the hints and suggestions, working on getting her incredibly turned on. This is completely unlike anything we've done before, but if I play my cards right in the next week, she'll be so into it. One thing I haven't figured out yet is how she's going to get home. We live in Williamsburg, and as we discussed, she should have come and piss on her when she leaves. Subway would probably be the best (vs. a cab), since she'll have maximal exposure that way. Agreed? Let's reiterate how things are going to go again. We meet in the pub, after she and I had a drink or two beforehand, we stay there with you for a short while, so she can show off properly, then at some point I present her to you and you both leave for your place. Once there, it's up to you. As for working on her between now and then, what do you think will serve best to prep her? -- Gregg- Catherine's in the shower, and we're about to head out to dinner. I had to tell you what I'm going to have her wear- a loose plaid skirt that goes only to just below the ass, a white top that goes to about belly button, is skin tight, and leaves most of her breasts exposed. I went through all her stuff before she got home to pick out a nice outfit. We're meeting friends for drinks afterwards, before she has to go to work at the bar, and I'm going to be sure to give her lots of drinks and talk shit into her ear about how hot she is, how everyone in the bar wants to fuck her, that kind of thing. Wish me luck! -- Gregg- I think I wrote last week suggesting doing our scene on Thursday? Does that work for you? Catherine got waxed on Friday, so she'll be completely smooth for a while now. Are we good? I'm going to start really planting ideas in her head a few days before hand, so she'll be raring to go. -- One more thing, Gregg- I should have told you about one of our weekend activities. We went to the beach at Coney Island yesterday, and I had her wear a micro mini bikini, that's white, and basically transparent when wet. By micro, I *mean* micro. She got many, many stares from guys and women alike, and some unapproving stares from parent types, too. Similar to last week, after getting wet, I walked some distance behind her to watch people watch her, and that was VERY interesting. :) -- Hello, John My apologies ... I meant to let you know that I would be 'off the grid' of email over this past weekend, and of course was not ignoring your messages. But I sure would not have wanted to miss your 'stirringly' lucid depictions of your fun with Catherine's 'preparations' over the weekend(!) When I had the chance this afternoon to get to my personal email it was like hitting the jackpot -- and I am now bulging my pants so thickly picturing her that I wonder about walking the halls -- but well, well worth this 'concern' as I imagine her rarin' to go ... I also imagine you could hardly keep your hand off of her when you have her displayed so wonderfully lewdly ... I have to ask you if he plaid skirt you put her in was pleated (for a 'Catholic' schoolgirl/slut look) or more smoothly molded to her ass (for more like a 'Japanese schoolgirl')? Especially with the pleats I can't help but think you would pull her into any semi-secluded spot and simply flip it up over her ass after bending her over in order just to sink right into her for a few strokes ... "just to heighten her anticipation", naturally, as you leave her pulsing as you continue walking ... and did your friends have anything to say about her exposure as you sat with them, or did they just enjoy the view of her flesh? And I surely hope that you found a way to play with her pussy while drinking with them just inches away ... Anyway ... Thursday at 7:30 will be perfect: Do you prefer that I be there awaiting your arrival (so that you are literally bringing her to me), or to have her there with a drink in her hand first when I join you -- or even for me to be there but watch you for a while before joining? Also I meant to ask you: How oral is she accustomed to being? I remember you saying she is not used to taking warm piss on her tongue, but how about taking me in her throat, cleaning her own juices off of me, rimming, pooling my come on her tongue before swallowing it, etc? And thanks for suggestions about sending her back to you -- I was thinking just the same thing, that a subway ride will be the perfect cap for her evening. And downtown is just quiet enough at night that she will be safe while totally standing out to everyone else around. Will you even let her have a purse with her when you send her off with me? If not, the image of you handing me her metro card would burn itself into her head as the symbol of your providing her to me and leaving it to me to send her back to you ... and what time do you want for her to leave by that night? (And wouldn't I love to be a 'fly on that wall' when she returns to you ...) And the image of you watching her stroll wet through the hot throng of New Yorkers ... thanks again for that ... Looking even more forward --Gregg -- No problem, Gregg. I was worried that you were getting cold feet, but thought it was likely you were just away. Glad to hear it! I'm sorry I didn't tell you about Friday night- the beach scene yesterday was so fresh in my mind I'd forgotten. But yes, it's a pleated schoolgirl kind of skirt, which I like precisely because I can flip it up at will, like you said. Our friends know she likes to wear stuff like that sometimes, but they were still wide-eyed when they saw her. :) It was pretty funny, actually, but they DID appreciate it, though, especially the guys. There were six of us (three couples), and we were sitting/standing at the bar, and Catherine was sitting on a stool, facing those of us standing. She was wearing a thong at first, but I had her go to the bathroom to take it off once we were both getting drunker. The two other guys clearly noticed, since the skirt is so short, and seemed to move back slightly, to get a better view up the skirt. As it got more crowded, we were all standing, and when she told me that a random guy behind her seemed to be letting his hand contact her ass a little more than accidental, I told her to move back slightly, into him. She complied, and she told me that the guy got the hint and tried to get his hand under her skirt. It didn't work, since he was trying to be inconspicuous, and would have had to bend over too much, but he did get some feels. VERY nice- along the lines of our subway thoughts. But anyway, she eventually went off to work, and I hung out with the two guys for a little, while their girlfriends talked by themselves. The first thing they both said was hot fucking hot Catherine was looking. :) Yeah, no kidding! I ALMOST told them to feel free to try to cop a feel next time, but thought that would have sounded too weird, so just let them fantasize. Wow, that was long. OK, as for Thursday- I think it'd be nice if you were there at the same time we were, and at some point I'll find you (you can tell me what you'll be wearing or something), and bring you over to her. And for the oral- I love that you ask about those things. Some she has done with me- licking her juices off my cock, swallowing my come (not the pooling on her tongue, but that wouldn't be a problem for her), and some not, like rimming me. I rim her, but while she'll lick around me asshole, she hasn't gotten too serious. I think that if she gets turned on enough with you, and you present your hole to her while she's tied down, she'll go to town. Taking you in her throat- you mean your cock? She can deepthroat, so yes, go for it. Piss, too, if fair play. Similar to the rimming- if she's turned on enough, it won't be a problem, knowing her. I actually love the idea of her taking warm piss in her mouth and swishing it around, as with the come. You're welcome to have her be as oral as you'd like. OK, so subway it is. Great idea about not taking anything with her- I'll give you her metrocard, as you suggest, and she'll be emptyhanded when you leave. Did we discuss spanking and whipping? I don't think we did, but we're also into that, so feel free to use those methods both for punishment if she doesn't comply, and for excitement. I can't wait- I'm going to have a hot time with her tonight getting ready! -- Yeesh, John ... I have to wonder what kind of tips she came home with after you sent her to work thong-less ... it sounds like the two of you super-charged your friends' evening -- that even the women could hardly have helped envisioning themselves making out with such a sexy kitten ... And sounds excellent -- I will make a point to send her back with all of her openings well-used, and with a glowing warm red ass to complement her gaping holes. Looking forward(er) -Gregg -- Yeah, she said she got a lot of attention at work that night. People couldn't really see up her skirt, since she works behind a bar, but still. And I bet our two women friends when we were out drinking WERE thinking of making out with her. I'll have to see what I can do with that in the future, since I know them all to have done some amount of girl-on-girl play in the past (not with each other, unfortunately). All sounds great for Thursday. I'm still thinking about what I'm going to do while she's with you, though. Going sex toy shopping as you'd suggested would be good, but I'm not sold, though. I'll be horny as shit no doubt. Maybe just getting wasted and trolling the sex toy stores IS the way to go! I just remembered that you'd asked when you should send her home. Maybe by 1 AM or so? Or alternatively, if you're still having fun, maybe you could keep her till morning, and then she could take the train home among the commuters. What do you think? -- Yeah, what's not to like about the notion of the other women getting wet for Catherine? Although to be honest it seems like a ratio of more men ends up with the right balance -- cocks get spent and need to recharge, while a really thrumming woman can go endlessly for hours fueled only by her own lust and some Champagne ... Anyway, those are the two somewhat competing ideas I had too: Sending her in the middle of the night still shaking after everything has just happened to her, or keeping her for a last go at her in the morning and then her stepping into the first light among the suited Wall St. men and women ... does one way fire your imagination over the other? And yes, not just browsing a good sex shop but getting someone who really knows the mechanics (maybe even one of the gayer stores, since they are so inventive in these ways) and can provide something that does not look threatening but lets us use her mouth however we want -- and maybe also something medical (catheter in her urethra?) that leaves her with no control of her own urine flowing down the tube into her own mouth ... the thoughts in your mind about what is happening to her combined with touching a metal device for her jaw might practically send you over the edge right there ... -Gregg -- I only have a moment now, but wanted to comment on Catherine's return trip. I kind of like the idea of her being with you all night, so that you can return to playing with her whenever you'd like throughout the night, and then one last go before she leaves in the morning. You'll want to keep her tied down, but in some loose kind of fashion so that she can sleep. I like that idea. Were you planning of taking any photos or videos? I'd be OK with that as long as she wasn't identifiable to anyone watching it. I'll get back to you more later -- Hmm ... you sure don't need to twist my arm, John: I will plan to use her all night and send her to you in the morning -- so I will use a simple restraint that simply keeps her from leaving prematurely. This brings to mind something I have thought of before but never managed to do: Waking her during the night by flogging her pussy -- just intensely enough that she is bolt-awakened. Have a great day ... especially with your continued preparations -Gregg -- Again briefly, the thought of her bald pussy getting flogged at all, much less to awaken her, turns me on immensely. Brilliant. Thanks for reminding me of the future need for devices to render her mouth available for our use at will, be it as a toilet or for her servicing of our cocks. Good idea about the medical devices- I'll check into that. -- ... and yes, the thought of photographing her servicing me did cross my mind (and her face would not be recognizable if so), but I find that amateur porn usually turns out so disappointing unless a 'production' is made of it -- and since I anticipate being fully engaged already I am not planning on photos or video ... The weather seems to be helping us, too ... so many women are wearing such scanty bits of clothing out that perhaps it will encourage her even more ... Looking forward ... -Gregg -- No kidding about the weather. All of us are getting incredibly hot by all the bared female parts on display. Catherine actually asked if I wanted to go for another walk tonight today- very good, don't you think? What would you like me to have her wear or do, given that Thursday is two days away? -- Ungh ... just imagining her strolling with you *right now* out on the sweltering sidewalks -- and her pussy being even more overheated than the sweat beading up on her skin ... And now that you have her so well along in being displayed that she even asks for it, I hope you continue escalating the touching by strangers action -- underlining how hot it makes *you* to supply her flesh for other's enjoyment, and that you love it making her moist and her getting into it -- whether or not she would pick the man herself; the point being that you picked for her. Maybe you could even engineer situations in which she is being handled by other men (or brushing her breasts against them while pressing her ass into their crotch, etc.) while she can tell that you are not seeing the details -- maybe even a setting like the bar last week with an anonymous man's hand under her skirt stirring up her pussy from behind while you stand right in front of her, talking with her and looking her in the eye -- perhaps with her fingers gripping your cock to tell how engorged you are knowing what is happening but not being able to see the action. Looking ... Gregg -- Shit, Gregg, some bad stuff happened. Last night we went out for a walk, as I'd said. I dressed Catherine in a very short flowery skirt, kind of billowy and loose, no panties, and that micro bikini top she wore at the beach. First, I was walking next to her and was letting my hand ride up underneath her skirt and onto her ass, which obviously was showing off part of it. At one point she had me stop, not wanting to plainly show off her ass like that. OK, fine, I thought. We sat on a bench and I had her pull up her skirt enough that if you looked closely, you could see her bare pussy. That was better, I guess because only some people would see it. We were both getting off on that until I spontaneously asked one guy who was leering at her if he'd like to check out how smooth her legs are after being waxed (she only actually waxes her pussy, but her legs were shaved smooth). I'd never told Catherine about that idea that you and I'd talked about, so she did a doubletake and stared at me, but let the guy run his hands up and down both legs. I got in the act, too, running close to her pussy, making sure that the guy could see it. After a minute I let the guy go, and we split for a bar. That's when the shit happened. She's wearing the micro bikini top, remember, so I used our idea of having some guys feel up her breasts. I said I'd be back in a minute, and went over to some guys that had been staring at her. I plainly asked if they'd like to give her tits a squeezing, to which they obviously said hell yeah! I brought them over and introduced them, standing behind Catherine, who was also standing, massaging her shoulders. I then moved down to her arms, and grabbed a hold of her wrists. I nodded to the guys to go ahead, and two of them did, each going for one of the tits. Catherine was like, WHAT???, and tried to free her hands, but I held tight. The guys kept going, and she relented but had turned her head and was just glaring at me. I didn't care right then, because I found this so hot. Being a micro top, there's not much fabric there to start with, so it quickly got pushed aside, and they were feeling up her bare tits. The bar was crowded, so some people around us were watching, but it wasn't visible to the whole bar. I asked if they thought her legs were nice, too, and getting the hint, one switched to running his hands up and down them. When he tried to feel her pussy, the shit hit the fan. Catherine twisted around, breaking my grip, yelling what the fuck are you doing?? She fixed her top and pushed her way to the exit. Obviously I had to follow, and fuck she was pissed. Previously, while she's had contact with guys in our walks, this was way past that, and she didn't dig it. She took a cab home by herself, and I met her there later. She's not talking to me at the moment. So- this means our plans are fucked at the moment. I'm hoping that when she calms down, she'll realize how hot this kind of thing is, and I can work on getting her up to the speed that you and I need her to be at. But now, it's not good. I'm so sorry that I fucked it up like this, but I'll make good, I promise. -- Oh no, John ... but thanks for letting me know right away. That is the thing about playing on the edge -- sometimes you can slip to the other side of the 'line' (without either of you maybe even knowing where it is ahead of time). Of course the important thing is that Catherine is OK and that both of you are well together. I just have a minute here, and am sure that you know all of this, but the only thing I can think is that after she has gotten her wits back and you have really apologized to her this gives you the perfect chance and opportunity to straightly, plainly let her know how much you want and crave this kind fantasy to actually happen -- and that she is the one with the power to give this to you (as well as enjoying and desiring it herself), all as a part of your relationship -- that is, making sure she understands that this is part of your sexually loving her even when it is others' bodies on her -- of course all said in the most loving, caring way, since I am sure what she needs now is to know is that you understand her and for you to open yourself up to give her the real chance to understand you (and showing your vulnerability by laying your cards on the table and even asking her for what you want from her) -- let her know that you not only want to share your fantasies but also live them with her ... all the while safely and securely. OK, that was pretty stream-of-conciseness, but I am sure that all the care you take now will be more than repaid in spades ... to be honest, this is why I actually prefer married middle-aged couples. They have their own stability and security of a solid base that helps them be free to get started -- and as you probably know it is typically the men who initially want to get this sort of thing going and often practically need to 'drag' their partner into it but almost always the women who really get into it and can hardly get enough once they start, and the ones who keep it going after the first time. Please let me know if I can help, since I have had experience on both sides of this (but not the side of being the woman ... we can get advice from that side of the fence, though). And remember too that her very strong emotion is in the form of anger/hurt/upset now, but it is only a small redirection for that same power to be lust and desire -- sometimes the motivation of "I'll show him" is the best way for her to launch herself into the bed of another man that you have told her you want to have her. And the scene sounded pretty hot by the way -- maybe the only difference is that it needs to be a shared fantasy first, then bringing it into real life becomes a part of your relating together rather than only something you are inflicting on her. Thanks again for letting me know, and good luck ... -GreggL -- I was just thinking that showing her your entire correspondence with me might be the best way to start letting her know how much you want this to happen -- including both your messages and mine, with the photographs of her and even your original Craigslist post asking for men to come use her when you have her tied up. Even though it may be kind of frightening, you will probably also find yourself highly aroused while she is reading through the messages -- which you should let her know, even if it seems highly inappropriate -- after all, you are talking about something so sexy. Another dynamic that might happen (I have seen something like this only once, but it was very potent for both of them) would end up with you trussing her up while she is still feeling raw, only this time adding headphones with music loud enough for her not to hear anything in the room and a sleeping mask type of blindfold to leave her completely in the dark -- then have me come and use her so all she can do is strain against the restraints and/or surrender to the abuse. This honestly does not sound right in your situation, but maybe keep in the back of your mind that the right way in the face of such intense emotions might be a whole different way than you would think ... for example you should also probably let her know that you are available to her for what *she* wants, following her lead to be a character living out her deep sex fantasies (for example, another couple I knew years ago did this and her quid-pro-quo was to let herself be totally taken by the man of his choosing while he watched and jerked off, and then she did the same -- watched him service and get fucked by the man of her choosing, who she screwed afterward. She really showed how nasty women's minds can be, too, by not letting him come at all for ten full days prior, reminding him day and night what was going to happen to him and that he was committed and had no choice, and then made him come right when the man was exploding into his ass -- when he still had the taste of the man's semen and sweaty cock in his mouth from as soon as he entered the room -- all this knowing her husband had absolutely no gay or bi- tendencies at all. Even though I am likewise not at all keen on dudes, the image of this whole scene burned itself into my brain when they told be about it) -- this would deeply let her know how much you truly want this with her for yourself, and how far you will go to have it be real for both of you. -Gregg -- Thanks so much, Gregg, for all your input. I really appreciate, and it's very helpful. To be honest, I'd also thought of having you come to us while she's tied (as soon as she'll let me do that again) and do her according to my original plan. I think that actually might be an ideal way to show her how good it can be. I'd be sure to tell her how much it means to me for her to help me with my fantasy like that, and so on, and that her helplessness, only being able to strain against the ropes while taking whatever abuse you give (as you put it) is something that turns me on such a huge amount. I'm thinking about that. As for showing her all the correspondence, I don't know. Her inhibitions could still make that go badly, as opposed to the idea above. Letting her use ME in HER fantasies is also something I'd thought of, just not with that meaning she has another guy do me. Now that you mention it, though, I could see her picking that as her fantasy to live, since she knows it's not something that I'd choose myself as her fantasy. I don't think I'd want to suggest that unless there doesn't appear to be any other way to patch things up. You said that you've known people in both these scenarios- what was the backstory for both of them? What was the effect on the relationships? Thank you Gregg- you're a great help. -- Hmm ... both of the couples I mentioned told me about their experiences years after they happened: One as an example of how differently people feel and behave than what we think of as 'normal', and to try to pay attention to what is actually needed and wanted in the midst of a situation even when it does not seem to 'make sense' -- the other to demonstrate the real 'give and take' of trusting a partner (and I think they kind of got off on reliving what happened by retelling the story). Good luck ... and remember that it really just sounds like you went too far too fast, so hopefully starting with flowers or something she really likes will break the ice ... -GreggL --