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 Julianne stretched lazily her tanned body on the chaise longue, took a sip
from her glass and removed her sunglasses.  The sun had moved behond the
trees but the air was still hot, with a light breeze moving the leaves of
the oleanders.  She was naked, wearing just a waist chain and an anklet;
her high-heeled sandals were on the paving next to the chaise.  There was
never much need of clothing at her villa.

   A peal of laughter came from the pool, and her two girlfriends, Roberta
and Elaine, climbed out of the water, laughing and spraying each other. 
Julianne smiled, took careful aim, and threw the remains of her wine at her
friends.  They shrieked, jumped at her and dragged her into the water. 
More shrieks and laughters, and all three emerged, soaked and laughing.

   "You are a disaster!" said Roberta, half choking with laughter.  "Wine
in my hair!  I will have to take a shower, damn you!"

   Julianne laughed.  "A shower?  Are you joking?  You just took a bath! 
Do you want me to throw you back in?"

   "Don't you dare!" Roberta threw her wet towel at Julianne, who ducked.

   "Girls, girls!" Elaine sounded reproachful.  "A bit of seriousness, if
you please!" she moved her chair away from the puddles of water and checked
her navel jewel, which was the only thing she had on.  Roberta was naked
too.

   "Why seriousness?" asked Julianne.  "Because of your abortion?  I am
still waiting to hear everything about it." She looked at the naked body of
her friend.  "I am glad to see that your figure has not suffered from your
pregnancy."

   Elaine looked at her body and smiled.  Her breasts were still firm and
her belly flat; nobody would have thought that she had had not one, but
three full pregnancies.  She patted gently her belly.  "I am glad too.  It
is a relief to be rid of the little fucker.  Sex while pregnant is a huge
turn-on, for me and for my lovers, but I look much better like this."

   "You sure do" said Julianne "but you enjoyed the wild sex all right. 
The way you were having sex, I am surprised you didn't have a miscarriage
half way through!"

   "Well, I managed to have my abortion as late as I had planned it"
laughed Elaine "but you are right.  We sure gave the baby a very rough ride
while it was inside me!"

   "I could see you were very turned on" remarked Roberta, starting to
massage a moisturiser onto her breasts "but still I couldn't be bothered to
get pregnant just for the sake of wilder sex!  I hate myself when I have a
big belly, I could just manage to have my daughters and that was it. 
Always on the pill, besides my one abortion before I got married."

   "Shame on you!" laughed Elaine "Abortion is a conquest for us women: we
should do it again and again, to affirm our sexuality and to show everyone
that our pleasure is the only thing that matters!"

   Roberta aimed her wet towel at Elaine, missing her.  "Leave the politics
out of it!  Yes, i know, and I am completely in favor of abortion with no
limits, just don't want to bother with it, OK?  I was turned on when I had
mine, I liked the rush of power when I told the doctor to do it, I just
don't want to be bothered now."

   Julianne yawned.  "I had two abortions and I enjoyed the thought and the
buildup, but the procedure is messy and it isn't pleasant, whatever you
read in extreme porn stories.  I am not squeamish but it is too much of a
fuss." She looked at Elaine.  "But you enjoyed yours.  Come on, tell us
more about it, you have been back one month but this is the first time we
can chat."

   "You did it in Eastern Europe, didn't you?" asked Roberta.

   "Yes.  It would have been illegal here so far into the pregnancy.  I
left for when I was just over eight months.  I wanted to do it as late as
possible."

   "To enjoy more wild pregnant sex?" Roberta was teasing her nipples.

   "Yes, but also to make more of a statement." Elaine glanced and Roberta.
"This is not about politics but about myself.  I like the feeling of being
free from all conventional morals.  Late abortion is the most objectionable
and extreme kind of abortion and this is why I wanted to do it."

   "I like that" said Julianne.  "I am not sure I would go as far as nearly
term though: not because I have any qualms about it, but I have heard that
the process is as unpleasant as childbirth.  On the other hand" she added,
caressing lazily her perfectly shaved pussy lips "I would certainly get a
perverse excitement from the thought that I am having a perfect viable baby
killed just for a whim."

   "Yes, that's it" said Elaine.  "I wanted my abortion to be a celebration
of my sexuality by breaking that taboo: once women were taught that sex was
there to make babies.  I have made a baby just for the thrill of aborting
it."

   "I don't have a problem with that" said Roberta.  "Fuck, sometimes I
wish I had aborted mine!"

   All three women laughed.  "It is true" continued Roberta.  "Sometimes
they are real pests."

   "Most kids are from time to time.  Heck, sometimes I wish I had aborted
mine too." Julianne sighed.  "Come on, Elaine, tell us how you aborted
yours.  With no gory details please, I am fastidious." She smiled.

   "No gory details actually" said Elaine.  "It was all very clean and
civilised, thank you very much."

   "Oh please!" Julianne turned to her side, rummaged in a small handbag
and extracted a packet of cigarettes and a lighter.  "I don't take much of
the pro-life stuff seriously, but at eight or nine months the baby has to
be crushed or broken to bits or whatever.  Partial-birth abortion or
something like that."

   "I know." Elaine stretched an arm, picked a cigarette from Julianne's
packet, and lit it from Julianne's lighter.  "The ob-gyn gave me the choice
and suggested an alternative - a post-birth abortion.  Much safer and
cleaner."

   "Post-birth?  You mean the ob-gyn delivered the baby alive and killed it
afterwards?" Roberta whistled.  "I didn't know that this kind of abortion
was legal, even in Eastern Europe."

   "Well, it isn't legal." Elaine inhaled from her cigarette, lazily
caressing her breasts with the other hand.  "It is really an infanticide,
not an abortion.  Still doctors do it, discreetly of course."

   "It is probably less painful for the baby, and less messy" said Roberta.
She took a cigarette too.  "For the women, not very different I guess." She
looked at Elaine.  "Did the doctor kill it straight away?  How?"

   "No, he didn't" said Elaine.  "The way they do it, they keep the baby
alive until the mother is dismissed from the clinic, on the grounds that
she might change her mind and keep it, or decide to make it available for
adoption.  I could have insisted to have it killed straight away, but I
didn't really care."

   "Did you see the baby?  Was it a girl or a boy?"

   "It was a girl.  I saw her of course, I even breastfed her for the week
or so I was in the clinic." Elaine smiled at the memory.  Her hands strayed
between her legs.

   Julianne saw that and laughed.  "Thinking about it turns you on?  Me
too." She touched between her legs.  "Abortion, or the thought of abortion,
is exciting - the sense of power, and of doing something well outside the
traditional view of women as nurturers."

   "Me three." Roberta's hand was teasing her labia too.  "Especially doing
it after birth as you have done, pushing the limits." She looked at Elaine,
smiling.  "How did you feel while you were breastfeeding her?"

   "Turned on." Elaine was masturbating openly now.  "Partly it was the
sense of power, partly that my nipples are sensitive and having them
suckled is always a turn on." She giggled.  "This is why I agreed to
breatsfeed her, not because I cared."

   Roberta laughed.  "You are wicked!  You were going to have her killed
and you used her to excite yourself!"

   Julianne was caressing herself.  "Why not?  She was going to get killed
anyway, one might as well play with her."

   Roberta threw her cigarette butt at her, laughing.  "You are two total
perverts!"

   Julianne threw a towel back at Roberta and asked Elaine: "You look very
turned on by that memory.  Tell us more.  How did you feel, what did you
do?"

   Elaine's voice was tense and excited.  "I felt great.  The thought that
I was going to have her killed made it all so....  wicked, sexual.  I kept
shifting her from one nipple to the other to enhance my pleasure.....  and
I masturbated every time I fed her." She paused.  "I always did it in the
nude, of course."

   "Were you alone?" Roberta's voice was tense too.

   "Much of the time Erik was with me......  watching and helping."

   "Your boyfriend?  I didn't know he was a pervert too!" Julianne smiled.
"Helping, how?"

   "He liked to get naked and to masturbate me while I was playing with
her, and generally we played with each other a lot."

   "In front of the baby?  I told you that you are both perverts!"

   Elaine laughed.  "Come off it!  I remember all of us having group sex in
front of your babies because you, a caring mommy, didn't want to leave them
all alone in another room!  Caring, my ass: you were turned on by getting
fucked in front of them, that's the truth!"

   "OK, OK!  You are right!" Roberta raised her hands in mock surrender. 
"I am a pervert as much as you are, and I don't believe that kids should be
kept innocent." She laughed and started to masturbate again.  "We all gave
them a good sex education, and we had some fun in the process, that's all."

   "That's why we wanted the baby to watch us have fun" said Elaine.  "Not
that she could benefit much from our sex education, being about to be
aborted!"

   "That probably made you enjoy that game even more" remarked Julianne. 
"Violating her innocence without even the pretence of doing it for her own
good....  just to titillate yourself and Erik.  I like that." She looked at
Elaine.  "You seem very excited.....  I am curious." She smiled
mischievously.  "Was it just letting her watch you and Erik have fun, and
having her suckle your nipples....  or was there something more?  Come
on....  come clean!"

   "How do you mean?" Elaine's face reddened.

   "Well.....  we are all excited by the abortion, but also by your
involving the baby in some sex play with you and Erik.  As Roberta did when
she let her babies watch her have fun.  As I have also done.  I was just
wondering.....  how far did you go?" She smiled teasingly.  "Come on.....
none of us is a shrinking violet!"

   Elained hesitated for a few seconds, then laughed.  "OK.....  we
molested her some.  It came natural while I was breastfeeding her - we
fingered her slit....  and we had some fun teaching her to suckle more than
my nipples." She smiled and masturbated more aggressively.

   "Oh My God!" Roberta stopped caressing herself.  "That sounds SO
perverted!  I wish I had been there to watch!" She started masturbating
again.  "Tell us more.  What did you make her suckle?  Your clit?"

   "Yes.....  and Erik's cock tip." Elaine tensed, moaned and came.  She
breathed heavily for a few seconds.

   Julianne moaned and masturbated faster.  She looked at Elaine and came,
too.  Afetr a minute or two, she asked: "Did the baby like it?"

   "No.....  she didn't.  But we didn't care."

   "And you made her do it all the same....." Roberta tensed, and orgasmed
too.  "My god, this is so much more perverted and exciting than a late
abortion.....  you molested her and then had her killed!"

   Julianne's voice had a husky edge.  "I am not surprised you enjoyed the
experience........  molesting a child is a huge taboo for a woman to break,
one of the ultimate perversions to experience."

   Roberta looked at her.  "Have you done it yourself?"

   Julianne smiled.  "Yes, I don't talk too much about it of course, but I
have done it a few times, the first time when I was just seventeen and I
was all into breaking taboos and seeking thrills......  unprotected sex,
drink, drugs....  the more wicked the better."

   Roberta was laughing, shaking her head.  "My God, I have a lot of
catching up to do!  Tell us more, what did you do?"

   "Nothing very original.  Four of us, two boys and two girls - remember
Diana and her boyfriend, and my then boyfriend Jim?  We travelled to the
Philippines, just backpacking.  We had this habit of turning us on during
sex exchanging fantasies, the more outrageous the better.  One was about
child molesting.  Since we were in the Philippines where a lot of people go
on purpose to do it, we thought why not try?"

   "Putting it that way, I would have wanted to try it too" said Elaine. 
"What did you do?"

   "We just sort of abducted a kid off the street, she must have been six
or seven.  Nobody paid attention to two young couples.  We took her to our
tent, we gagged her, we got naked, we stripped her and we had some fun."

   "Don't be shy!" Roberta was masturbating again.  "More!  More details!"

   "All very predictable" said Julianne, playing with her nipples.  "We
fingered her everywhere, taking turns to pin her down; it was so cute the
way she was fighting back and trying to protect her modesty!  Then we tried
to make her lick and suck us - not easy while keeping her quiet, it didn't
really work but we rubbed our sexy bits on her face.  Then we girls pinned
her down and the boys took turns fucking her."

   "Wow!  That was not molesting, that was rape!" Roberta was starting to
breath heavily.

   "Yes....  it was.  She tried to fight back but there were four of us."
Julianne laughed.  "It made it all more exciting.  We didn't give a damn
about her really, we were just doing it for kicks and we loved it."

   "Were you and Diana comfortable about helping two boys rape a girl?  I
thought you might not...." wondered Elaine.

   "Oh, we were!  Actually it was our idea more than the boys'.  Diana
suggested it and I was all for it too, the boys weren't sure but we taunted
them to make them do it and when they did it we egged them on to fuck her
really hard, you know, all the way into her....  it was totally hot.  We
had no mercy."

   "What did you do with her once you had finished?" asked Elaine.

   "We tied her up, and since it was dark already we wrapped her in a
blanket and we carried her a good distance from there, and we left her in a
back alley, still gagged and tied up, naked.  Then we packed and left town
the same night.  Nobody bothered us." Julianne smiled at Elaine.  "We were
more merciful than you, who killed your sex toy!"

   Elaine laughed and threw a sandal at her.  "Mine was an abortion!  We
just had some fun before doing it, that's all."

   Julianne caught the sandal in mid air and threw it back.  "OK, OK,
abortion.  But you haven't yet told us when and how you had the baby
killed."

   "We did it on my last day in the clinic" said Elaine.  "I had fully
recovered, no point in staying longer."

   "How did the doctor do it?  Lethal injection or something similar?"
asked Roberta.

   "I did it myself" replied Elaine.  "I didn't trust the doctor: he had
asked me a few times if I was prepared to let her be adopted, and I thought
he might trick me by sending her to sleep instead of killing her and then
giving her to someone else.  I didn't want someone with my DNA coming back
to me a few years later making claims on me and Erik, thank you very much!
So I told him I would smother her myself."

   "Wow!  I am discovering more and more about my girlfriends'
perversions!" Roberta straightened up on her chair, her nipples hard.  "Go
on, tell us everything."

   "Oh come on, what perversions!" Elaine laughed.  "Women have been
killing unwanted babies for ever....  infanticide is hardly something new
or perverted.  That's how birth control was always done once and is still
done a lot now.  It is no longer done so much in developed societies
because we have the pill and we have abortion, but I don't see anything
wrong with doing it."

   "I think the same" said Julianne.  "A new mom can dislike her new baby,
its eye color or whatever, simply change her mind and decide to get rid of
it, why not?" She turned to Elaine.  "Tell us more, how did you do it?"

   "Not much to say really.  I told the doctor and he said it was fine for
me to do it, and he gave me a plastic bag to use to suffocate her.  I
wanted to do it with my pussy though - I thought it would be more
appropriate, give her life from there and take it from there."

   "God.....  this is so sexual, I love it!" Julianne was masturbating
openly.  Roberta chimed in: "Me too!  Totally wicked and erotic....." she
was teasing her nipples with one hand, while the other was playing with her
clit.

   "Well, anyway" Elaine continued "we tried it.  I sat naked, in a yoga
position on the bed, with my back against the pillows, and I pushed her
mouth and nose hard on my pussy to stop her from breathing.  Erik was
kissing me and playing with my nipples while I was doing it......  and I
was playing with his cock.  The baby was struggling against my pussy and I
was loving that.....  it sounds horrible but I wanted to feel her die and
to get pleasure from that."

   "You are SO evil...." Julianne's breathing was ragged.  "Were you doing
anything to her while you were smothering her?  Fingering, anything?"

   "Oh my god......" Elaine's breathing was getting ragged too, her nipples
were rock solid.  "You will think I am really a sadist.....  I was sitting
in the yoga position, naked, with my high-heel sandals on....." she moaned,
then resumed.  "....and my foot was against her body....  so I pushed my
high heel into her slit while I was smothering her....." Her face
contracted, she groaned and came violently.

   "Oh fuck......" Julianne's hand moved frantically between her legs.  She
came with a scream.  Roberta came too.

   The three women breathed heavily for a few minutes, touching themselves.
Roberta was the first to talk.  "God....  this was fucking awesome.  I wish
I had been there to see it all." She looked at Elaine.  "Did it take her
long to die?"

   "She didn't die that way actually.  I had an orgasm and so did Erik, but
she was still alive; so we used the plastic bag that the doctor had given
us, we tied it around her neck and we tied her hands behind her back to
stop her from trying to remove the bag, and that was it....  it took a few
minutes."

   "Did you watch her while she was dying?"

   "Yes, of course."

   "How did you feel?" asked Roberta.

   "While watching her die?  Just thrilled and sexually aroused.  I felt no
mercy and no regret, no negative feelings.  We masturbated each other while
we watched......  it was sexy." She hesitated.  "It felt liberating...... I
felt more free, more grown up, a bit like after my first abortion.....  and
rather pleased with myself for doing something that millions of women have
always done without being bothered by our stupid moral scruples."

   "Same as Julianne, I guess, after she and her friends did that kid....
but they were more merciful than you, and let her live" smiled Roberta.

   "To tell you the complete truth, I didn't want to let her go.  Neither
did Diana.  We thought it was too risky for us after having not just
molested but gang-raped her." Julianne yawned.  "But the boys were less
ruthless, so we let her go."

   "Fuck....  you mean you and Diana wanted to kill her?" Roberta shook her
head in mock horror.  "The things one learns about one's girlfriends......"

   "Yes" said Julianne simply.  "Safety first as far as I am concerned.  I
thought that we might be caught....  what was the point in risking that? 
Better just....  get rid of her.  Diana and I wanted to take her to the
shore and keep her head under water to drown her."

   "Do you regret not doing it?" asked Elaine.

   "Not so much, we got away with it anyway......  but I am sure we
wouldn't have had any qualms doing it.......OK: to be totally honest, Diana
and I felt disappointed about not, you know, going all the way.  We were so
excited about doing something so wicked, we really wanted to go as far as
possible." Julianne smiled.  "We teased the boys mercilessly afterwards,
telling them that dropping her somewhere tied up and naked was an
invitation for others to use her.....  and that probably she got raped
again and then killed."

   Elaine laughed too.  "Probably that's what happened.  How do you feel
about that, do you hope someone else did it?"

   Julianne smiled.  "Diana and I both hoped so......  we were so
disappointed.  We talked a few times about it later, we fantasised about
all the nasty things that may have happened to her....  or that we could
had done to her.  The boys were a bit shocked to see how perverted we were
prepared to be."

   "Have you done it again, molesting a young kid I mean?  I think you said
earlier that you had done it a few times" asked Roberta.

   "Me and my big mouth" smiled Julianne.  "Yes, just a few times......  it
is thrilling and I like it."

   "You are wicked" smiled Elaine.  "Tell us more."

   "We have done it sometimes alone, sometimes with other couples.  We
don't go for little prostitutes because they are less fun, too
compliant.... and they aren't virgins." Julianne was masturbating lazily.
"Molesting and using a girl who has never been exposed to sex is much more
thrilling.  We normally abduct a street kid without being noticed....  a
woman doesn't raise suspicions.  Lately we have been taking them to a hired
boat....  for privacy."

   Roberta was caressing her breasts.  "And what do you do to them when you
are in private?"

   "Anything we like really.  Normally we force them to lick and suck
everyone, men and women.....  then we women take turns pinning them down
while the men fuck them."

   "Very passive role for a woman like you" laughed Elaine.  "Just that,
get licked then pin them down?  Come on!"

   "Well" smiled Julianne "I have tried a couple of times to fuck a girl
with a strap-on, but I didn't enjoy it much.  What I like best is to sit
with my pussy on her face while she gets fucked.....  keeps her quiet,
gives me pleasure, and I can make out with the man who is fucking her."

   "That's more like it!" laughed Roberta.  "And when you have finished,
what do you do?"

   "Oh.....  we let them go, of course."

   "Really?" Elaine sounded surprised.  "So, you have changed your mind
about taking risks by letting them go?"

   Julianne smiled.  "We let them swim ashore....  if they can make it."

   There was a pause, then Roberta laughed, followed by the other two. 
"That sounds more like what I expected!  And has any of them....  made it
to the shore?"

   "Not that I know" Julianne yawned.  "We make swimming more... 
challenging for them." She looked at Elaine.  "Seriously.....  we tie their
hands and feet.....  tie something heavy to them....  and then bye-bye!"

   "Oh fuck.....  you throw them overboard and let them drown?"

   "Yes, we do." Julianne yawned again.  "No big deal." She looked at
Roberta, then at Elaine.  "Care to join us next time?"

   Roberta looked at her, then at Elaine.  All three burst laughing, then
Roberta replied: "Fuck, yes.  I have some catching up to do!"

   "Me too, it sounds like" smiled Elaine.  "I thought I was the most
perverted of you all....  but I have competition, I see!"

   ............

   Later that day, Paul and Roberta were about to go to bed.  "So" asked
Paul "How was your afternoon with your girlfriends?"

   "Very nice, and surprisingly hot." said Roberta.  She was naked, as Paul
was, and was polishing her nails.  "I discovered sides of them that I
didn't know about."

   "Sexy sides, by the sound of it."

   "Oh yes, definitely!" Roberta stood up, and looked at herself
appreciatively in the mirror.  Paul moved behind her and cupped her breasts
in his hands.  "Sexy in unexpected and dark ways." She felt her nipples
harden.  "We talked about Elaine's abortion, mainly."

   "Oh, yes, I remember she was due to have one." Paul's fingers were
teasing her nipples; she could feel his hard penis against her back.  "A
late one, if I remember well.  Eight months?"

   "Yes, a very late one this time." She felt his penis stiffen.  "Does the
thought turn you on?"

   "You bet!" He turned her around and kissed her passionately.  They made
out for a minute or so, then he continued.  "Late abortion is sexy.  So
outside conventional morals......  perverted.  I love that." He kissed her
neck, caressing her breasts.

   "Abortion isn't a perversion, it is a woman's right!  However late it
is." She started to caress his penis.  "Anyway, it wasn't eight months.  It
was nine.  And yes, the way they did it was very.....  perverted."

   "Nine?  That's taking it very close to normal delivery.  What if she
went into labor a bit early and had to be rushed to hospital?  Would they
abort it?  Tell me more!"

   "Yes, they would" said Roberta.  "In Eastern European clinics it can be
done.  In Elaine's case though it was the doctor who proposed to do
something much naughtier: to have Elaine give birth and abort the baby
afterwards.....  an infanticide, in other words.  He was saying that
abortion after eight months is very messy, and besides, Elaine might see
the baby alive and change her mind - keep it and raise it, or give it away
for adoption.  Quite a few clinics do that, unofficially." Roberta turned
and kissed him.  "When she told me how they did it....  it turned me on
like hell.  Enter me, and I will tell you everything."

   Paul stepped back and lay on the bed.  Roberta straddled him, facing
him, and lowered herself slowly on his cock, letting it enter her fully. 
She leant over to kiss him.  He placed his hands on her waist and smiled.
"So, tell me what happened.  Elaine gave birth, and the doctor killed the
baby afterwards?"

   Roberta smiled, moving lazily up and down.  "No.....  as I said, they
kept the baby for a few days, in case Elaine changed her mind....  but she
wanted to kill it, partly because she didn't want someone with her DNA
coming up years later.....  and partly because she was thrilled at doing
something so naughty."

   "I am thrilled and turned on too, just by hearing about it."

   "Wait......  I have to tell you the best.  The doctor didn't kill the
baby....  Elaine and Erik did it together on the last day she was in the
clinic....  and the way they did it....  wow!"

   Paul moaned.  "Don't tease me...  tell me!"

   Roberta's voice was a bit shaky.  "First I should tell you that during
the previous days they played with the baby.....  sexually.  I hope you
will not be shocked....  I was so turned on when she told me!"

   "Oh fuck...." she felt Paul's cock swell inside her.  "How....?"

   "She and Erik.....  in Elaine's words....  taught the baby to suck more
than her nipples.  Her clit....  and Erick's cock tip." Roberta was feeling
her own orgasm building up, and she knew what would push her and Paul over
the edge.  "They molested her.....  she didn't like to suck them but they
made her do it anyway.....  and......." She kissed Paul fiercely, then
continued "when they killed her...  Elaine smothered her......  by pushing
her mouth and nose into her pussy....." Paul's cock almost exploded, and
her own orgasm almost made her pass out.

   A few minutes later they were lying on their sides, still embraced, his
now less rigid cock nestling between her legs.  They were touching each
other lazily and talking.

   "So, she smothered the baby with her pussy?  That's a sexy way of doing
it.  I am sure she had a good orgasm from that."

   "She tried, but didn't manage it - the baby was still alive and they
just tied a plastic bag around her neck, and tied her hands to stop her
from removing the bag, and watched her die." She caressed Paul's cock.

   "Did they enjoy watching her die?" Paul was caressing her breasts.

   "Yes....  they did.  They played with each other while watching.  And I
didn't tell you something else.....  when they were trying to smother her,
Elaine was nude on the bed, in high heels, pressing the baby's face on her
pussy...  and her foot was close to the baby's body, so she pushed her high
heel into the baby's slit."

   "God....  that was so perverted.  I love all this.  They must have
enjoyed doing such things......  And the funny thing is, it was probabloy
less painful for the baby than a normal late abortion."

   Roberta smiled, still caressing his cock.  "I am sure they didn't give a
damn about that.  If anything, they enjoyed most the bits the baby didn't
like, like making her suck them, and especially fucking her with Elaine's
heels." She felt Paul's cock harden and looked at him.  "This is the bit
that turns you on the most, isn't it?  Me too."

   "Yes.......  killing the baby isn't much more than a late abortion.  But
using it as a sex toy.....  I just love the perversity of it." He played
with her nipples.  "Pity she was too small for Erik to fuck her."

   Roberta saw an interesting opening.  "I thought the same.  While she was
telling us about it, I was hoping she would say that Erik had raped her.  I
know it isn't really possible with a kid so small though."

   "Yeah....  hot fantasy though."

   "Very hot, even for a woman." She caressed Paul's cock.

   "How so?" Paul let one oh his hands stray between her legs.

   "Of course a woman can't rape a child.....  but she can help a man do it
and participate in the act.  It is such a taboo, it must be thrilling to do
it." She felt his cock harden.

   "My beautifully perverted wife.......  would you like to help me rape a
little girl?" He turned, pushed her down and positioned himself between her
legs.

   "Oh fuck, yes, I would love it." She opened her legs.

   "Mayb we should have the next vacation in Thailand" he said, entering
her.  "And you should get off the pill, maybe.....  so that we can have a
baby of our own to abort."

   ......

   A few days later, on a Sunday, Julianne, Elaine and Roberta were again
together at Julianne's house, with their men.  It was mid afternoon and
they were all naked, lounging at the side of the pool; they had already
shared a light lunch, some wine, plenty of sex and some mild drugs.  The
conversation had been mainly on Elaine's very late abortion.

   "To me" was saying Paul "what you guys have done is the perfect way to
explore a dark side of your sexuality.  It is almost legal, in some
countries anyway; it leaves no traces; whatever you do to the baby it isn't
much worse than a normal late abortion.  You can go wild on it, do anything
you like, however perverted.  I think it's great."

   "I can't wait to do it myself" said Roberta, caressing her breasts. 
"Just listening to Elaine telling us about it, and then telling Paul when
we were having sex, was totally erotic.  I just can't wait to do it."

   "How will you do it?" asked Julianne.  "Any thoughts, or plans?"

   "More or less like Elaine" replied Roberta.  "But I don't think I will
be able to wait until the last day before I fuck it with my high heels. 
That's the bit that got me really hot."

   "Me too" said Paul.  "Fuck, I really hope it will be a girl....  we can
fuck a boy in the ass, but for me as a straight man, the rape of a girl is
so much more erotic."

   "I bet what you would really like is to fuck her with your cock, not
with Roberta's high heels" said Elaine.

   "Fuck, yes!" laughed Paul.

   "Hey, wait!" Roberta laughed.  "I am the mother; abortion is a woman's
affirmation of her sexuality.  The baby is mine, and I am the one who
should rape it, not you!"

   Everyone laughed.  "You could do her together" said Julianne.  "You
could pull her head between your legs to smother her, while Paul rapes
her....  and you could make out while you do it."

   "Oh God I would love it......  after all Elaine and Erik were nasty to
her together, they did it as a couple."

   "We weren't really nasty to her....  well, on the last day yes, but
before we just made her suck us." Elaine smiled at the memory.  "It's true
that she didn't like it and we forced her, but that wasn't so bad.  We
molested and fingered her too, but that wasn't really nasty either."

   Paul smiled at Roberta.  "I think that this very perverted wife of mine
might have more interesting ideas...."

   Roberta blushed and threw a sandal at him.  "It isn't true!" She
laughed. "OK, it is true.  A bit.  I was thinking that I would like to
explore my sadistic side.....  and torture the baby some." She blushed
again.  "I always found sadistic stories, with sadistic women, very
erotic....  and why shouldn't I be cruel to a baby that is mine and that I
am going to kill anyway?" She turned to Elaine.  "I was totally turned on
when you told me how you enjoyed feeling her struggle against your
pussy.... and that you fucked her with your high heels!"

   "Hey, no need to apologise for that!" said Julianne.  "I, for one, think
that we should embrace and celebrate every side of our sexuality, however
perverted.  And if we can explore them safely, why not do it?  I say go for
it and enjoy yourself!"

   "I think so too" said Elaine "and the baby is going to be aborted
anyway. As a matter of curiosity, what were you thinking to do to it?"

   Roberta smiled.  "I was thinking of.....  piercing her nipples and labia
maybe, with a needle, or maybe burning them with a cigarette, while we
molest her.  Just to make her struggle against our bodies.  I think it
would be sexy." She looked at Paul.  "It's a shame that a baby would be too
small for Paul to be inside her while I torture her, I bet he would enjoy
the feeling."

   Paul nodded.  "I was saying to Roberta when we talked about it that
maybe we should take a vacation to Thailand and do it to an older girl, six
or so." His cock was rock solid.  Roberta smiled at him, stood up, walked
to hium and sat on his lap, letting his cock enter her.

   Elaine smiled.  "Erik and I have talked about it and we have decided to
do it for real....  Thailand or the Philippines or wherever it can be done.
We enjoyed abusing our baby but we want to try the thrill of a full
rape.....  it is a great taboo to break for a woman, to help a man rape
someone....  especially a young girl." She looked at Erik.  "And I would
like to explore my sadistic side too."

   "Really?" said Paul "Roberta and I talked about it a bit......  we would
love it.  Could we do it together?  Sharing a girl?"

   "I think you should really do it....." said Julianne, before Elaine
could reply.  "John and I have done it a few times and it is really sexy,
liberating....  you feel free to do anything you like.  My first experience
with young kids was before I met John, when I was seventeen, and I was
hooked from the start."

   "WOW!  You started early!" said Paul.

   "Yes.....  I was looking for thrills, like most teenagers." Julianne
smiled.  "I was with another girl, Diana, you know her, and two boys.  We
went backpacking to the Philippines.....  and since many Westerners were
there for the young girls, we thought why not try that ourselves too?"

   "What did you do?" asked Erik "Paid for a little whore?"

   Julianne laughed.  "No way!  We didn't have enough money: we just picked
up a street kid and took her to our tent, it was in a secluded enough
place."

   "How old was she?  What did you do to her?" Paul was fucking Roberta,
who was riding him and moaning softly.

   "She must have been six or so.  We gagged her to keep her quiet, we got
naked and we stripped her, then we molested her some....  we tried to make
her lick and suck us, or rather we masturbated on her face, then the boys
took turns raping her.  We girls pinned her down, it was fun." Julianne was
masturbating openly.

   "Fuck.....  that's hot" said Erik.  "What did you do when you had done
with her?"

   "Diana and I tied her up and after dark we took her somewhere far
enough, still naked.....  then we left town."

   "Nobody gave you trouble?"

   "Nope.  We took quite a risk, but it worked well." Julianne hesitated.
"Actually, Diana and I were scared at the risk we were taking....  and we
wanted to kill her, but the boys thought it was going too far."

   "Oh FUCK....." Paul groaned.  Roberta screamed as he came inside her.

   Julianne smiled.  "I am sorry I shocked you.  But we really were afraid
to get into trouble.....  we wanted to take her to the shore and keep her
head under water until she drowned."

   "You see" interjected John "if people pay for a little prostitute, there
is no problem: they give her back once they have finished.  But if you
abduct a street kid, you never know, she can identify you....  better get
rid of her and be safe."

   Elaine was thoughtful.  "Yes, I think you are right.  And these street
kids are not wanted by anyone.....  it is like a delayed abortion." She
laughed, followed by all the others.  She looked at John.  "If I pay for a
little prostitute, I assume that I have some limits on what I can do to
her....  right?"

   "Yes" said John.  "No permanent damege, more or less." He looked at
Roberta.  "You can't play your sadistic fantasies on one of those, I am
afraid."

   Roberta smiled.  "Then we'll have to abduct a street kid." She hesitated
and blushed.  "Frankly, I know that it sounds horrible, but I think that I
would enjoy killing her once we are done." She looked at Paul.

   "I would enjoy that too" said Elaine.  She looked at Erik.  "Speaking
for myself, given the opportunity I would do it and I am sure that I would
enjoy doing it.  OK.....  my infanticide was nearly an abortion, but I felt
completely OK about killing our baby."

   Erik nodded in agreement.  "I think the same.  When I saw Elaine trying
to smother the baby while masturbating with her face....  and especially
when she pushed her high heel into her so cruelly.....  fuck, I had never
been so turned on in my life.  If we have the opportunity to do something
like that again, I am sure we'll go for it."

   Elaine added: "We could go for a little prostitute of course, but....."
she looked at John "I think it must be sexier to abuse a kid who is really
unwilling and has never beene exposed to sex." She looked at John.  "Am I
right?"

   John nodded.  "Yes, you are.  Much more exciting, the way they fight
back.  Besides, it is much more liberating to know that you can do anything
you like, with no limits, and do what your lusts suggest."

   "Liberating, yes....  that's what I want, to be free from any
constraints." Elaine looked at John.  "You and Julianne do it every now and
then, right?"

   "Yes, we do." John lit a cigarette.  "It is exciting and it is safe in
the right places, like the Philippines.  Sometimes we do it with other
couples who share the same interests.  It is easy really: the women pick up
a street kid, we take her to a hired boat and we have fun with her." He
inhaled some smoke, then released it.  "When we have finished, we tie her
up and we throw her overboard.  Too risky to let them go, and as Julianne
said, street kids aren't missed by anyone."

   "Have you and Julianne been....  sadistic to any of them?" asked
Roberta.

   "Yes, we have" replied Julianne.  "It depends on our mood, on who else
is there, on how the kid behaves.....  we know we can do anything we like,
and that in itself helps push our limits."

   "What do you do then?  I have many sadistic fantasies, but I never
talked with anyone who has had experiences of it." Roberta was lazily
caressing Paul's cock.

   "Many things" smiled Julianne "but my favorite is when John fucks the
girl and I sit on her face with my pussy and we make out.....  and I
torture the girl, that makes her struggle and gives us more pleasure. 
Things like burning her here and there with a lighter, piercing her
nipples....." her voice trailed off, and she caressed her pussy.

   "The other thing that turns me on" said John "is when I fuck the girl on
a table, and Julianne stands at her side and tortures her....  watching my
wife being cruel is a huge turn on for me, I get wild."

   "I will get wild watching Roberta do it too, I am sure!" said Paul.  He
turned, took Roberta in his arms and kissed her passionately, caressing her
breasts.  She moaned and took his cock in her hand.  When they stopped
kissing, Roberta's face was flushed, and she was breathing heravily.  "I
have had fantasies about being a cruel, sadistic woman, doing horrible
things just for fun.....  I can't weait to do it for real." She turned to
Paul.  "You will fuck her, I will torture her and you will tell me how it
feels on your cock." She looked at Julianne.  "Does John ask you to do more
evil things to her to get more pleasure?"

   Julianne smiled.  "Yes, sometimes he does, but other times I just do
very evil things just out of a whim....  just because I can."

   "Have you ever felt regretful about doing what you do?" asked Erik.

   "Not really" replied Julianne.  "It is very thrilling and exciting.....
never regretted a thing."

   "I can relate" said Elaine.  "Erik and I abused and killed our baby and
we loved it, no regrets.  I felt another layer of social conditioning
go.....  I felt like, 'hey, I CAN do this, I can kill my baby and enjoy the
experience!' So liberating.  in a way I felt as I did after my first
abortion....  more grown up."

   ............

   About nine months later, Roberta was propped up against two pillows in a
comfortable bed in the Eastyern European clinic where Elaine had had her
abortion.  Her baby - a girl - was in a cot next to the bed.  Her ob-gyn,
an attractive woman in her mid thirties, was visiting her - she was the
wife of the clinic's director, who was away on business.

   "I am really glad that the birth went well.  The baby is healthy and you
are recovering fine.  I take it that you are still determined to have the
baby aborted....?" The doctor brushed a lock of blond hair from her face
and crossed her elegant legs.

   "Yes, I am." Roberta smiled.  "As you know, I got pregnant precisely
with the aim of aborting my baby....  I find abortion empowering and
liberating.  Elaine, my friend who recommended this clinic, had a
post-birth abortion and she was so enthusiastic about it that I thought I
had to experience it myself."

   "Abortion is very liberating, I agree with you.  I have had a few
myself, including two post birth." The doctor smiled.  "We women have been
socially conditioned for centuries to think that our sexuality came second
after the needs of procreation and child rearing.  Now we can remove this
social conditioning and give our sexuality the primacy that it should have.
As an ob-gyn, I have aborted many babies, and I completely enjoyed aborting
two of mine after birth.  It was empowering, liberating.....  sexy."

   "That's what Elaine told me." Roberta hesitated.  "I have been having so
many fantasies about this....  I can't wait to make them come true." She
blushed.  "Elaine told me about her experience......"

   "Oh.....?" The doctor smiled mischievously.  "You mean.....  how she and
her boyfriend played with the baby?  I know about it, she told me
everything.  Is this you have been fantasising about?"

   "Yes.  About.... .....  about abusing the baby." Roberta laughed. 
"There, I have said it!"

   "Roberta." The doctor leaned forward, placed a hand lightly on Roberta's
hands, which were resting on the sheet.  "Don't be ashamed of your
impulses. Post-birth abortion....  OK, infanticide....  isn't just about
getting rid of an unwanted child.  That's in third-world countries maybe,
but here?  Women like us know about contraception, can have early abortions
legally.  We do it because it is liberating." The doctor lit a cigarette.
"Normal, early abortion is liberating too, but not in the same way. 
Infanticide, done like this, without any real need, just for thrills, flies
in the face of all traditional roles of a woman, as a nurturer, a mother."
The doctor smiled.  "I feel that a woman isn't fully liberated until she
can practise infanticide without any qualms, until it is something that she
can do just for fun, no big deal.  Something she can talk about
nonchalantly with her girlfriends.

   "I am sure you are right....." said Roberta.  "Even listening about
Elaine's experience I felt barriers falling...."

   "That's how infanticide can be liberating in a much deeper sense.  Let's
be frank.....  many of us have dark sides about our sexuality, things that
turns us on but are perverted and depraved." She hesitated.  "Has Elaine
told you in some details what she did here?"

   "Yes, she did.....  she told me everything." Roberta smiled.  "I was
amazed at how she had turned the whole thing into an erotic experience for
herself and her boyfriend.....  she talked about it as something
liberating, erotic, thrilling.  This is why I wanted so much to do it
myself."

   "She and her boyfriend didn't do anything openly in front of us, but
they molested the baby, used it to titillate and pleasure themselves and on
the last day they killed it in a very sexual way......  they turned their
abortion into a very erotic experience.  I was really pleased to see how
natural it came to them, and how liberated she was about it....  not a hint
of hesitation, of scruples or of regret." The doctor smiled too.  "This is
how it should be.  Not all women who choose a port-birth abortion make the
most of it sexually.  Some are almost prudish about it, as if it was a
political statement rather than a celebration of their sexual freedom. 
They get the baby killed by one of our doctors, or maybe they do it
themselves but in a humane, sort of sanitised way." The doctor caressed
Roberta's hand.  "Done that way, post-birth abortion isn't liberating....
it becomes a humane alternative to abortion, something done because we
care."

   The doctor stood up.  "Your friend Elaine enjoyed her experience to the
full.  I hope that you will, too."

   "That's what I want to do......  I just can't imagine how I will feel
doing it."

   "There is a simple way to find out" said the doctor." She picked up the
baby, who started crying, and gave her to Roberta.  "You can try and molest
her and see how you feel."

   "Can I.....?"

   "Yes." The doctor's voice was firm but she was smiling.  "And I would be
very happy if you could do it in front of me.  In the world outside, of
course these things can't be done openly.  But here....  in a clinic were
all women are liberated as we are.....  you should feel free to do anything
you like openly."

   "I would love to" said Roberta.  "Can I.....  do it in the nude?"

   "Yes, of course!  It is about enjoying your sexuality.....  if it is OK
with you, I will get naked too.  I love watching new moms play with their
babies." The doctor stood up, unbuttoned her frock and let it fall to the
floor, stepping out of it.

   She removed her thong and bra, remaining naked, with only high heel
shoes on.  She looked at Roberta.  "Actually, I can tell you about another
possibility.....  I encourage new moms to get together and.....  amuse
themselves together with their babies that they are about to abort.  It is
all about feeling free, liberated....  and doing these things in front of
others is totally sexy, I can tell you."

   "I would love to!" Roberta was smiling happily.  She placed the baby on
the sheets, sat on the bed and took off her hospital smock, remaining
naked. She looked at the doctor.  "I have heard about abortion parties.....
is this what you are talking about?"

   "Well, not exactly.  We have abortion parties when a women aborts her
baby, and she may wish some of her closest friends or some other new moms
to attend.  The get together I was thinking about is before the babies are
aborted....  just for new moms to get used to the thought of post-birth
abortion, to talk with other women who are going to do it....  it is about
making it feel as a normal, natural and sexy thing for a woman to do, not
something to be hidden, but something that can be done and talked about
openly, in the right company of course." The doctor smiled.  "I have
attended many small parties like that, and it is amazing how easily women
lose their inhibitions and how naturally they play with each other and with
their babies....  it can be very sexy."

   "I am sure!  I will love to take part." Roberta took her baby in her
arms again.  "Does it ever happen....  that some of the moms get too
excited and things go too far....  and a baby gets aborted before the
planned time?"

   "Occasionally, yes.  Do you think it could happen to you?"

   "It's possible." The baby started to suckle from Roberta's breast, and
she let her do it.  "I am new to this...  I am not sure how I will react: I
am pretty sure that I will find it all very sexy and exciting."

   "I am sure you will, too." The doctor smiled.  "That's how most of us
find it.  How new are you...?  Have you ever molested a baby before, yours
or someone else's?" Roberta blushed deeply but said nothing.  The doctor
smiled.  "Please don't be shy.  I think I can guess....  it was not a baby,
was it?  an older child....?" Roberta reddened more and she looked very
uneasy.  The doctor continued.  "Roberta.....  please don't be afraid or
ashamed.  Molesting a child is another taboo that can be exciting to break,
and so why not do it?  I have no problems telling you that I have molested
and abused children, many times, alone and with friends, and I have enjoyed
it.  I love to do it when I have the opportunity.  I also get carried away
sometimes, and I go too far....  and I enjoy that too."

   Roberta's voice was a bit shaky.  "I did it the first time six months
ago......  I had talked about it with my husband, and with some friends....
one of whom had done it already.  We did it in the Philippines."

   "Very safe place where to do it.  What did you do - pay for a girl or
pick up one off the street?  I prefer it when we just pick one up......  we
can do anything we like, no worries."

   "We picked one up, yes." Roberta's voice was more confident.  "We were
three women and it was easy.  Then we joined our men and.....  we played
with her for some time." She paused.  "Two of us were new to it, it was
totally exciting." Her hand strayed between the legs of the baby.

   "I hope you enjoyed her thoroughly."

   "Oh yes, we did!" Roberta started to tease the baby's slit.  "We did all
sorts of things to her....  it was amazing."

   "And.....  did you get carried away?" the doctor smiled.  "It has
happened to me a few times, it can be very sexy."

   "I did, yes, but not all the way.  My husband was inside her and he
asked me to hit her.....  and I used the belt of my jeans on her breasts. I
felt such a rush of excitement.....  if my husband hadn't told me to take
it easy, I might have beaten her to death." The baby started crying. 
Roberta looked down - one of her fingernails was against the baby's slit.

   The doctor looked at the baby and smiled.  "Did that girl in the
Philippines cry a lot while you and your friends were using her?"

   "Oh God, yes!" Roberta's voice was excited.  "Cried, struggled....  we
had taken her to a boat for privacy..."

   "Did it turn you on, to make her cry?  I would have loved it." The
doctor smiled and placed a hand on the baby's belly, next to Roberta's. 
She moved her nail until it lightly probed the baby's labia.

   "Yes, I loved it too.  We all did.  We laughed and joked and we tried
different ways to make her cry....."

   "Did you play with each other while you were using her?"

   "Yes.....  with each other and with our men.  I had God knows how many
orgasms."

   "So....  you are bisexual?  I am too." The doctor smiled and looked at
Roberta, then moved forward and kissed her lightly on the lips.  At the
same time, she pushed her nail into the baby's slit.  The baby started to
cry harder.

   Roberta closed her eyes and kissed the doctor back, then dropped the
baby on the bed and the two women embraced.  They made out for a few
minutes, moaning, the crying baby forgotten on the bed.  When they stopped,
they looked at the baby.  The doctor smiled.  "Let's molest her a bit
together" she suggested.

   Roberta laughed excitedly.  "Yes!  I can't wait."

   The two women lay next to each other on the bed, the baby between them.
They kissed and touched each other here and there.  Roberta moaned.  "I
really want her to lick my pussy.....  I tried earlier but the little bitch
wouldn't."

   "Oh....they never do it willingly.  We can have her cry and struggle
against your pussy....  almost as good." The doctor caressed Roberta's
breasts.  "Open your legs enough for me to push her face against you."

   Roberta turned on her back and opened her legs.  The doctor lifted the
baby and carefully placed her face against Roberta's slightly open labia.
"Pull her against you and adjust her until it feels pleasurable......"
Roberta placed a hand on the baby's head and pulled her face against her
pussy.  She moaned.  The doctor smiled.  "Now I'll play with her a bit and
that will make her move against you and give you pleasure."

   She pushed a finger against the baby's slit and started to circle it
slowly, scraping the skin with her nail.  The baby cried and tried to
wriggle away, but the two women kept her firmly trapped between Roberta's
legs, while caressing their bodies with their free hands.  They kissed,
moaning.  Roberta started to move the baby's head between her legs,
masturbating, while the doctor kept using her nails on the baby's slit,
masturbating with the other hand.  Soon Roberta's breathing became ragged;
she pulled harder the baby's face, opening and closing her thighs, and she
came.  Next to her, the doctor also masturbated to orgasm.

   The doctor pulled the baby away from Roberta and to her side, and the
two women embraced and kissed.  Roberta sighed.  "This was so awesome and
so intense.....  I loved it.  It was so.....  sexy and barbaric, using her
distress to pleasure us."

   "Yes....  it was lovely.  It is amazing whet you can do with your
nails.....  I hardly damaged her but she went crazy with pain, the labia
are so delicate...." The doctor looked at Roberta.  "How do you feel about
us hurting her to enhance your pleasure?"

   "I totally loved it!" Roberta turned and kissed the doctor.  "Now let's
swap places: you open your legs and masturbate with her....  and I will
give her some pain."

   "Yes!" the doctor opened her legs and pulled the baby against her pussy.
Roberta lay next to her and smiled.  "I thought.....  do you think it is OK
if I use my high heels in her slit?  I could open her up and hurt her
inside....  without going too far."

   "Oh God yes!  I love this.  Wait......  let me prop myself up seated so
I can see what you do to her." The doctor moved back and sat against the
pillows, pulling the baby with her.  Roberta picked up one of her
high-heeled sandals from the floor and smiled at the doctor, pushing the
heel slowly into the baby's slit.

   The baby started to cry and tried to push away from Roberta's heel, but
the two women held her firmly down.  Roberta moved closer to the doctor and
kissed her; with their free hands, the two women masturbated each other. 
The doctor moaned.  "You are so.....  sadistic......  keep hurting
her....." Roberta moaned and started turning her heel in small circles,
scraping the baby's hole inside.  The baby became frantic.  The doctor
pulled her hard between her legs, closing her thighs, and Roberta pushed
her heel a bit more into the baby.  Both women came with ecstatic cries.

   They pushed the crying baby away and embraced again, kissing and
touching each other.  The doctor's voice was unsteady.  "I just loved
watching you use your heel on her....  it was so sexy and so cruel..... 
you are a very hot and liberated woman, Roberta."

   Roberta smiled.  "I was in heaven....  your fingers between my legs were
driving me crazy.  And I felt so totally free of any constraints....  I
loved being cruel, I was trying to give her as much pain as possible....."

   Both looked at the baby, still crying, a trickle of blood oozing from
her slit.  Roberta laughed and kissed the doctor again.  "Our sex toy....."

   The doctor smiled.  "So, you see....  you didn't get carried away after
all." She paused.  "With that other girl in the Philippines....  how far
did you all go?"

   Roberta snuggled to her and caressed her breasts.  "You can guess.....
we went all the way.  My girlfriend always does it, when she abducts one."

   The doctor let her hand rest between Roberta's legs and lightly caressed
her labia.  "We do the same.....  it is safest, and can be very exciting,
depending on how we do it."

   "We took turns......  a man fucking her, and a woman sitting with her
pussy on her face trying to suffocate her.  A kind of Russian roulette."
Roberta kissed and nibbled one of the doctor's nipples.  The doctor moaned.
"I hope you took your time......  this kind of game is very sexy....."

   Roberta felt the doctor's finger play with her clit.  She moaned.  "Yes,
we took our time....  the Russian roulette was when we wanted to snuff
her.....  first we had her suck all of us.....  then we made her cry and
struggle....."

   "What did you do.....?"

   "Some piercings in her sensitive bits....  and some burning with
cigarettes.....  we took turns doing that too......" This did it, and both
women came again.

   They remained embraced on the bed, spent.  "I like piercing and burning"
said the doctor.  "If done well it does little damage and can be very
painful.  Especially when a girl is being used sexually by a man or by a
woman, it makes her trash around a lot.....  hot for those using her, and
for those who watch too." She smiled at Roberta and caressed her cheek. 
"How did you feel doing these things?  Any qualms, any hesitation?"

   "None!  I felt like a little kid in a candy store, I just couldn't wait
to try this and that.....  as if a lot of barriers had been removed. 
Intoxicating, liberating....  sexy.  I felt my whole body tingle." She
kissed the doctor's lips lightly.  "And having my friends there,
encouraging me and laughing and enjoying themselves with me was a turn on
and made it all feel more natural, easier." She kissed the doctor again. 
"Same as having you here, and molesting my baby with you.....  totally
erotic."

   The doctor stood up and picked up her frock.  "I have to go now..... 
but this was lovely and sexy.  I am so happy that you let me share your
first sexual experience with your baby."

   Roberta stood up too.  "It was lovely sharing it with you." She looked
at the baby, that was now asleep.  "Please let me know about that party....
I'll take her there.  And any time you wish to come here and have fun....."
she smiled.  The doctor smiled back, and they kissed.

   ............

   The following day five women were sitting together in a small heated
patio inside the clinic, with plants, a rockery and a small pond.  One was
the doctor, and four were new moms who were expecting to abort their babies
within the next few days.  There was Roberta, with her baby girl; a fifteen
year old blonde Eastern European girl, with a baby boy and with her mother,
a splendid woman in her mid thirties who had given birth to a baby girl;
and a young woman in her early twenties, also with a baby girl.  All were
naked, laughing, drinking and smoking; a joint was being passed around.

   "Marja was on the pill, but really I wanted her to have an abortion
because it is such a liberating experience, especially if done after birth"
the girl's mother was saying in perfect English.

   The girl scowled.  "Oh mom, COME ON!  I am as liberated as you are
sexually, I didn't need to carry this brat in my belly for nine months and
to kill it just to prove I am!" She pushed her bare foot between her baby
boy's legs and twisted his tiny cock with her toes.  The baby started to
cry.  "Do you really think I'll have problems with watching this little
shit being killed, or killing it myself?  You are patronising, you know?"
Everyone laughed, and after a few seconds the girl laughed too.

   "I am not patronising you, sweetie.  I know that you are very liberated.
But I know from experience that even for women like you and me this is a
deep taboo, and breaking it is truly something special, especially if you
kill the baby yourself."

   "I think so too" said the doctor.  "Of course my staff and I will abort
a baby for a new mom if she wishes, but I always recommend that she does it
herself.  It helps bring down barriers, it is more liberating....  and most
women who do it find it liberating and erotic too."

   "Erotic, how?  Not the same as a big, hard cock inside me." The girl
stretched and dragged her baby back by a foot, and laughed.

   "Let me show how I would do it" said her mother.  She sat on the paving
in a yoga position and placed her own baby accurately with its face on her
pussy.  "I am looking for a good, pleasurable contact" she explained, then
put a finger against the baby's slit, teasing it with her nail.  "I am
letting her breathe now, but when I abort her I will push her mouth and
nose hard against my pussy to smother her.....  and while I do that I will
be very naughty and use my nails to make her struggle more against my clit
and give me pleasure."

   "You are a sadistic pervert!" her daughter laughed.

   "Yes, I am and I love being one!" She smiled at her daughter and started
using her nail on the baby's labia.  The baby was moving frantically,
thrashing around, muffled screams coming from between her mom's legs.  "I
could masturbate better with my finger, but this gives me a kick...." she
glanced at her daughter.  "And don't tell me that you don't enjoy being
evil!  You seduced Irina's boyfriend on purpose, because she is a religious
girl and you don't like her, and you wanted to fuck up her love life!"

   The girl laughed.  "Yes, OK, I did it and I loved fucking her up, silly
little virgin.  She hadn't let him fuck her and I got him real easy.  I let
her catch us kissing and making out.  Christ, it was fun!" She opened her
legs more and pulled her baby hard, masturbating with his face.

   "I did something similar when I was about your age" said the doctor.  "I
still get all tingly when I think about it.  I seduced a married man when I
was babysitting for his wife.  She caught us fucking in their marital bed.
I felt so powerful, standing up naked and taunting her while she was
crying....." she started to caress her breasts.  "I kept having sex with
him for months and I didn't bother to hide it from her, I really wanted to
humiliate her and to make her suffer.  It was totally sadistic on my part
and I loved it." She looked at Marja and smiled.  "I think this is more
about power than about sadism.....  I enjoyed my power over that man's
wife, the power to make her suffer and to invade her private life; you
enjoyed the power to destroy that girl's relationship; and your mother
enjoys her power over her baby.  Nothing wrong with any of that....  power
is a powerful motivator and we women have been led to believe for too long
that we shouldn't care for it."

   "Talking about sadism" said Roberta "I think I will give my baby another
session." She picked up the baby and opened her legs.

   "Will you use your heels, as you did yesterday?" asked the doctor,
smiling.

   "No....  I will use my fingernails" said Roberta "I want to hurt her a
bit and make her move against me."

   The fifht woman, who hadn't spoken yet, looked at Roberta and then at
her own baby, and blushed slightly.  "This is all so.....  exciting, and
unexpected.  I thought that by choosing a post-birth abortion I would both
make a feminist statement, in favour of abortion with no limitations, but
also have the baby killed humanely." She looked at her baby again.  "But
this is turning me on SO much.....  I am sure I will do it....."

   "But you are not sure.....  yet." The doctor smiled reassuringly. 
"Anne, this is not about being pushed into doing something you don't want
to do.  Abortion is about a woman's freedom, and I want you to feel free to
do anything you like - or not.  If you are not sure, would you like to....
play with another baby, not yours, to see if the experience turns you on?"

   "For now, no....  I'd rather watch you play and masturbate." The woman
blushed and caressed her labia lightly.  "Maybe I'll play with mine later."

   "That's fine" said the doctor, standing up "but I want to play with a
baby too.  You all go ahead, I'll pick up one from someone else and I will
be right back." She left the patio, and was back a few minutes later with a
baby girl.  "This is from one of the moms who want a doctor to abort it"
she explained.  "I can do as I please with her." She sat down, opened her
legs, positioned her pussy on the baby's face and started to penetrate its
slit with one of her fingers.

   "Will you kill it now?" asked Roberta.

   "Yes, I think so" replied the doctor.  "I feel like it, and watching you
all enjoy yourselves will make it more exciting." She worked her nail into
the baby, hard and cruelly.

   The mom and her daughter, and Roberta, were watching, while masturbating
themselves with their babies.  The fifth, Anne, was simply masturbating;
she seemed mesmerised by Roberta, who was slowly teasing her baby's slit
with her nails.  Roberta looked at her and smiled.  "I am driving her
insane.....  I can't believe how she is moving against my clit......"

   Anne's voice was shaky.  "Yes....  this is so fucking cruel....  go
on....." She kept looking and masturbating, her nipples rigid.

   Shortly afterwards, the doctor came with a groan and an ecstatic cry. 
This triggered all the other women's orgasms.  Moans and cries of pleasure
mingled with the distressed cries of the babies.

   The doctor stood up and lightly kicked the baby girl.  "I killed her"
she said.  Roberta smiled.  "I thought that when moms asked for the doctor
to abort their babies, they assumed they would be aborted painlessly and
humanely."

   The doctor laughed.  "They do, but what I do in reality depends on my
mood." She paused.  "There is more than that actually.  To me......  babies
are the reason why women's sexuality has been constrained, our job was to
be mothers and nurturers.  Now we have the pill, we have early abortion,
but we do infanticide to affirm our sexuality, to feel liberated....  and
being carelessly abusive or cruel when we do it, if it comes natural, is
even more liberating.  It's a powerful way to feel free from all moral
constraints...."

   Everyone nodded.  Marja's mother said: "I couldn't agree more.  I have
no problems with that.....  I am sadistic and I love it."

   Marja's face was flushed.  "I sort of enjoyed this, but I want to go all
the way now.....  kill the brat." She looked at Anne and smiled
mischievously.  "You haven't done anything yet....  want to help me do it?"

   "Oh fuck, yes!" Anne stood up, walked to Marja and sat next.  "How do
you want to do it?"

   "I will do like the doctor" said Marja.  "I will sit on his face and
smother her.  Can you help push his face into my pussy?"

   Anne's intake of breath was sharp but excited.  "Ooohhhh....  yes, I
think so." She got closer to Marja, helped her position the baby,
hesitated, and held his head firmly against Marja's pussy.

   "Fuck.....  fuck.....  yes........" Marja pushed down, hardm, against
the struggling baby.  Her orgasm was very quick.  She rolled back, leaving
the baby free.

   "Still moving" said the doctor.

   "Oh fuck....  OK." Marja took the baby by one leg and started to walk
towards the pond.  "Care to help" she asked Anne, turning her head.

   "Yes!" Anne went to the pond too.  Marja took the baby's legs and pushed
his body into the water; Anne kept its head down.  A couple of minutes
passed.  "Done it!" laughed Marja.

   Roberta, Marja's mother and the doctor laughed and clapped their hands.
"Well done, sweetie!" called her mother.  "Your first abortion, and first
post birth.  You are a liberated grown up woman now!"

   The girl laughed, showed her tongue at her mom and sat down.  The doctor
smiled at her.  "How did you feel doing it?"

   "I felt fine.  A bit excited...  you are right, it is a sexy thing to
do. But the pregnancy was a total waste of time....  tell you what, I'll
become an ob-gyn and I'll help abort other women's babies!"

   Everyone laughed.  "I think that would be a wonderful thing to do" said
Anne.  "Abortion must be encouraged as a way for women to free themselves
from society's fetters, and a liberated ob-gyn can help so many of them do
just that." She lit a cigarette and crossed her legs.

   "How did YOU feel, Anne?" asked Roberta.

   "Totally hot and excited, I have to say!  At first I was a bit shocked
and I thought, OMG, how will I be able to take part in this....  but then I
felt all on fire and when Marja asked me to help....  no problem, I did it
and I enjoyed it." She looked at her baby, asleep on the warm paving.  "I
will do her now....  not abort her, but play with her as you have done."

   She sat on the paving, cross-legged, and picked up the baby.  She
positioned her with her face on her pussy, and pushed the baby's legs under
her thighs, trapping them and exposing her slit.  She positioned a
fingernail next to the slit, and slowly started to circle it.  The baby,
startled, started to cry.  Anne laughed, and worked her finger inside the
baby, turning it.  She looked at the other women.  "This must really hurt
her, it is amazing...." She pushed her finger further.  There was a sharp
scream from the baby.  "Oh fuck, I have gone through something....  her
hymen?"

   "Maybe" said the doctor.  "Push a bit more....  it will drive her
crazy." Anne did, and the baby was frantic.  Anne tensed and came, with an
excited cry.  The other women laughed and applauded.

   Anne pushed the crying baby away and sat in her chair again.  Her face
was flushed.  "This is really unexpected...." she panted.  "I had been
excited at the thought of post-birth abortion, but I never thought I would
take active part in one, and enjoy it....  and to molest the baby and enjoy
that too!"

   Roberta laughed.  "I have been through the same experience.  Nine months
ago, just before I got pregnant, I met with two girlfriends, one was
Elaine"(the doctor nodded) "and I discovered that one of them had had a
post-birth abortion, also abusing sexually her baby girl together with her
boyfriend, and that the other had been......  well, much more liberated and
very very naughty." She looked at the doctor who nodded encouragingly. 
"Very naughty.....  molesting young kids since she was a teenager and, you
know......  going too far with a few of them."

   "Ooooohhhhhh!" said Anne, bringing a hand in front of her mouth and
opening her eyes wide.  "You must tell me more about that!"

   "I have done it too, as I have already told Roberta" said the doctor. 
"Many times, normally with friends, men and women." She hesitated.  "This
isn't the same as infanticide, of course, it is much more extreme,
but....." she shrugged "I had fantasies of being a cruel and sadistic
woman....  which again is well against our traditional role of
nurturers.....  and I wanted to explore my sadistic side for real.  I am
not the kind of woman who hesitates to turn a sexual fantasy into reality,
if it can be done safely.  When I tried, I loved it....  very empowering
and liberating."

   "Yes....  I agree with you, and it feels very liberating...." Marja's
mother stretched on her chair and lit a cigarette too.

   "MOM!!!!" Marja looked at her in mock horror, with a mischievous smile.
"YOU, a child abuser?!?"

   "Yes.......  why not?  Your dad and I always loved to exchange fantasies
while fucking, the more extreme the better....  and I am not the kind of
woman who shies away from turning her fantasies into reality, either."

   "No woman should be" said the doctor.  "Our fantasies reveal our deepest
desires....  and we owe it to ourselves to explore them."

   Marja was still looking at her mom.  "Have you killed any?"

   "Yes, I have.  It is safer....  we abduct a street kid, enjoy her and
then dump her.  There are so many kids in the world, it doesn't matter..."
while talking, she kicked off her sandals, placed a foot over the neck of
her baby to pin her to keep her down, and used her other foot to play with
her slit.  The baby started to cry.  "....and as you know yourself, killing
a kid isn't such a big deal." She smiled at her daughter.

   "I want to come with you guys next time and try it!" Marja started to
masturbate.  "What do you do to them?  I bet you are very sadistic!"

   "Not so much as I am, I bet!" said the doctor.  "I have been exploring
sadistic fantasies for some years and I don't think I have any limits.  I
just love the thrill of it."

   Ann smiled.  "You must tell me more about that.....  I have had so many
sadistic fantasies, I would like to hear from a woman who has actually done
these things."

   The doctor laughed.  "So, you are no longer interested in a humane
post-birth abortion for yours?"

   Anne blushed and looked at her baby.  "No way!  I want it to be
sexual....  I want to kill her with my body and to get pleasure from it!"

   "I think we all want that" said Roberta.

   "I feel SO free now that we have done these things together" Anne
continued.  "Before, yes, I was very much in favour of abortion with no
limits, including after birth, but in a sort of political way more than in
a sexual way.  I hadn't thought about it as helping remove my residual
moral scruples that were limiting my sexuality." She looked at Roberta. 
"Talking with you all, hearing what you had done already, watching you
abuse your babies so naturally and enjoy it.....  wow!"

   Roberta placed a hand on her shoulder and kissed her.  "And your
daughter will be at the receiving end of your newly found sexual freedom, I
hope!"

   Anne looked at her baby and giggled.  "You bet!" She took a nipple
between two fingers and twisted it, pushing her nails into the baby's skin.
The baby started to cry.

   ......

   Later that evening, Anne and Roberta were in Anne's room, chatting and
sharing a joint and a bottle of wine.  "I feel like a bubble bath" said
Anne.  "Shall we take one together?"

   "Yes, I'd love that" replied Roberta.

   "We can take the babies into the bath with us...." smiled Anne.

   ".....and molest them some!" Roberta laughed.

   Roberta started filling the tub, while Anne picked up the babies.  She
stepped into the tub, followed by Roberta.

   "How are you going to kill her?" asked Anne, teasing Roberta between her
legs with her toes.

   "I am not sure" said Roberta.  "Probably the same way as the doctor did
with that baby today - sit on her to smother her and get an orgasm that
way. It's sexy.  I will fuck her with one of my high heels while I kill
her. How about you?"

   "The same way, I think.....  I want my body to feel her die, I want to
enjoy her death sexually." Anne gigggled.  "I never thought I would do
something like this....  I wanted to abort her after birth to affirm my
support for abortion with no limitations of time....  but this feels so
totally right, so liberating.....  and so natural too in a way."

   "Yes!  I am amazed how easily I got rid of any moral scruples I had....
about killing an unwanted baby just so casually." She looked at her baby.
"And molesting and abusing them came so natural too......."

   Anne smiled.  "Talking about molesting....  how about some more light
torture with our nails?"

   "Sure!" Soon both women were lazily teasing and hurting their babies'
genitals; the babies, already exhausted, were crying softly.

   "I am also amazed at how much more....  liberated I am" said Roberta. 
"Yesterday evening the doctor was here and we got naked and we had sex
while we took turns molesting my baby.  I didn't feel the slightest pang of
guilt, I enjoyed it and we exchanged experiences about molesting and
abusing children and we just got turned on by it all."

   "The doctor is so matter-of-fact about it all, it is amazing.  She
killed that baby with her pussy so well....  and I was soaked when she told
how she has been abusing kids with her friends!" Anne pushed a finger
harder into her baby's slit.  The baby screamed.  "It is so perverted and
depraved but it turned me on so much hearing that she had done it." She
paused.  "Have you ever molested young kids yourself?"

   "Just once" replied Roberta.  "I went on vacation to the Philippines
with some friends, men and women, and we sexually abused a kid we picked
off the street."

   "That's hot.  Did you......  torture her?"

   "Yes, we did.  We burned and pierced her here and there, then we women
took turns trying to smother her with our pussies while the guys fucked
her."

   "I am in two minds about this" said Anne.  "Hearing about this, and
about the doctor's experience, turns me on like hell.  But I am not sure I
am comfortable with doing all this to someone else's kid....  and a kid a
few years old, not a baby."

   "I had my doubts too before I did it" said Roberta.  "I thought I would
just watch, but I got so excited that I had to try....  and in the end I
loved it.  but I am not sure I will do it so casually like the doctor."

   "Well, you shouldn't do anything if you are not completely at ease about
it.  I will try for sure, at least once, just to experience it.  I am sure
I will have no problems with this baby" she looked at it and smiled "this
is my late abortion and I have no qualms about it."

   "How did you feel about helping Marja killing hers?"

   "Not the slightest pang of guilt, no hesitation....  I was just excited.
I was feeling it more like an abortion, rather than child abuse.....  I
feel strongly that a woman has the right to dispose of a baby any way she
likes, and I just loved it that Marja was so liberated about it.  Totally
casual, no care....  she didn't give a damn about it, and I didn't either."

   "That's how it should be....  I enjoyed watching you do it and I am sure
I will enjoy killing mine." Roberta pushed her finger deeper into her baby,
which cried harder.  Roberta lifted the baby by an arm and hit her hard,
twice, in her face.  "Shut the fuck up!"

   Anne smiled.  "You have kids, don't you?  Besides this one I mean."

   "Yes, two girls, they are four and five now." Roberta hit the baby
again.

   "Have you ever regretted not aborting them?"

   "Yes, many times.  Kids can be a fucking nuisance.  But I never wanted
my kids to make me change my lifestyle, and I had my way."

   "How do you mean?"

   "I kept having lovers, enjoying group sex, swinging, all without
bothering to hide from the kids.  I had them in the same room where I had
sex parties.  Sometimes I rode the cock of a lover and watched porn while
breastfeeding.  I always went naked around the house....  that sort of
thing."

   "Wow!" Anne was impressed.  "Ever thought of molesting them?"

   "I did it a bit with some of my lovers, but nothing much.  I love
corrupting them, raising them with no modesty and no morals.  But at times
when they are a nuisance I wish I had aborted them." Roberta laughed.

   Anne caressed Roberta's thigh with her right foot.  "I feel in the mood
of playing harder with mine.  I want to try again to push her face on my
pussy.  Do you feel like molesting her with me while I enjoy her between my
legs?  We can play with each other and take turns to enjoy her."

   "I would love to.  What if one of us goes too far and kills her?"

   "I wouldn't care.  I want to concentrate on my pleasure and make the
most of this sexually.  Let's get out of this tub and move to the bed?"

   The two women got out of the tub and towelled themselves dry, then
towelled the two babies.  They went to the bed and lay down, and started to
touch and kiss each other.  "What we could do" said Roberta "is to place
her head between our two pussies, so we could both masturbate on her while
we kiss and touch each other."

   "Yes!" Anne laughed.  "Let's lie down with legs crossed and touching....
and place her between us so that we have easy access to her slit."

   Roberta giggled excitedly.  They spread some pillows and lay down, their
legs intertwined with a small gap between their open pussies.  Anne took
the baby and carefully placed her head in the gap.  The baby cried, but
Anne and Roberta pulled closer and her cried were soon muffled.  They
kissed and caressed each other's breasts, the baby's body moving and
struggling between theirs.

   Anne moaned.  "This is so hot.....  let's get her to struggle a bit
more." She placed a finger against the baby's clit and started to scratch
it.  Roberta entered her finger inside the slit.  "I'll hurt her from
inside."

   They kissed again, their bodies pressing each other and the baby between
them, their thighs and pussies pushing mercilessly on the baby's head,
their nails torturing the delicate slit.  Their ecstatic moans and cries
excited them and they pushed harder, their hands touching, their nails
moving deeper, more cruelly.  "We are going to kill her" moaned Roberta. 
"Yes....  I want to....." panted Anne.  "Finger her deep......" "You
too...." "Push....  push hard....  I am there...." "Yes....  aaaah
fuck...." They kissed frantically, their thighs pushing hard, their fingers
penetrating the baby.  Their orgasms came together, washing over them. 
They fell sideways, still embracing and kissing.

   "We have killed her."

   "Yes....  we have.  God, I loved it....  I am on fire."

   "I want to kill mine now.....  with you."

   "Oh yes, yes.....  the same way?"

   "No.......  remember earlier, when one of us put her feet on her neck to
pin her down?  I'll do it that way, in my heels.  You can fuck her with
your high heels....  we can stand, embrace, make out and enjoy each other
while we do her."

   "Oh fuck yes."

   They put on their high heels and placed the baby on the floor, on a
pillow placed against the side of the bed.  Roberta stood and placed her
left sandal carefully, the heel on a side of the baby's neck, the sole
pressing on it.  Anne placed her right foot between the baby's legs, the
heel poised at the slit's entrance, and started to push in.  They embraced
tightly, breasts pressed against breasts, thighs touching, and kissed. 
Their moans mixed with the feeble crying of the baby.  They caressed and
teased their breasts, their pussies, while slowly pushing their sandals
against the baby.  They could feel their orgasms coming and they let go of
any control, pushing their heels viciously.  They came and fell on the bed.
After a few minutes Anne giggled.  "No signs of life....  we killed this
one too!"

   Roberta looked down.  "Yes...  I think I broke her neck, and you broke
her pussy."

   Anne looked too.  "Yes.  I enjoyed doing it this way too.....  you?"

   "Yes, me too.  Different from what we did to yours....  we didn't have
the baby stimulate us directly.  But using high heels to kill is wicked and
sexy.....  and I loved the image in my mind.  I wish we had taken a video."

   "That would be totally hot....  I think there is nothing sexier than
women like us enjoying themselves without any moral scruples."

   "Do you feel any remorse....  any guilt?"

   "No way!" Anne laughed.  "I loved every second of it and I don't regret
anything we have done." She looked at the baby.  "Done in this way,
abortion is liberating and sexy.....  I enjoyed doing it." She looked at
Roberta.  "How about you, how do you feel about it?"

   "Liberated, energised, excited.....  sexy.  I enjoyed everything we
did." She paused.  "I wanted it to be sexual." Roberta kissed Anne, then
added: "Infanticide is great.  I hope it will become as accepted as
abortion.....  it would be so hot if all new moms could have a week or two
to think about keeping their new baby or getting rid of it......  for any
reason, however trivial."
"Yes!" Anne snuggled to Roberta and kissed her neck.  "I can imagine....
if it was widely accepted, women like us could talk about it openly, as we
did earlier in the patio....  just chat about it, nonchalantly, as a normal

thing to do....."

   "....and we could do it just at home and with friends, as we have done
today.....  even in the presence of our kids!" Roberta caressed Anne's
breasts.

   ...............

   The following morning the five women met again in the patio; the doctor
was there too.  All were nude, as they were the previous day.  There were
no babies.

   "So, all your babies have been aborted" concluded the doctor.  She lit a
cigarette.  "How do you feel about the entire experience?"

   "I was the one with the most doubts" said Anne.  "On the whole, I feel
fine.  I have done things that I had not expected to do......  I had
expected to have my baby killed humanely and swiftly, not to abuse her as a
sex toy." She smiled at Roberta, who smiled back.  "But I enjoyed doing it
this way.  I feel no regrets and no sense of guilt." She looked at the
doctor.  "And I agree with you that doing it this way has removed my last
moral and social barriers.  I can explore sides of myself that before I
wouldn't acknowledge......."

   "You mean your sadistic side?" asked Roberta.

   "Yes.  I always got excited when reading stories about sadism,
especially about sadistic women....  probably because it is so against the
traditional view of women.......  it sounds horrible to say, but having a
helpless baby that I was going to abort allowed me to be cruel and sadistic
myself.....  and it turned me on much more than reading about it!" She
giggled.  "Not that we were very sadistic....  but we abused them some and
it was fun!"

   "It sounds horrible to women not so liberated as we are" said the
doctor. "To me, a helpless baby or a young child is an opportunity to
experiment, to find out what excites me, to probe my darkest sides, all in
safety.  I can be as perverted as I choose to be.....  and if I have a
fantasy I can make it come true without any danger to myself." She smiled
at Anne.  "I am glad that you explored your sadistic side with your baby
without any qualms; it is good too that you did it with a friend, sharing
these experiences makes them more enjoyable.  How do you feel about the
possibility of abusing older children?"

   "I wouldn't go out of my way to do it" said Anne.  "But, if I was out
with friends in a place like Thailand, and someone proposed to do it just
for kicks....  I would go along with it.  Maybe I would just watch, or
maybe I would take part....  I just don't know.  But I feel comfortable
talking about it and the thought turns me on." She looked at her hard
nipples.

   "I think the same" said Roberta.  "I have had only one experience with
an older child and it was very intense.  I have my doubts, like Anne" she
smiled at her friend "but I have a sadistic streak and I want to explore
it, and this is the safest way.  I think it will take time before I am
completely at ease with that, but it will be worth it."

   Anne laughed.  "I also feel happy and I have no qualms about doing what
I have done.  I hope that infanticide will come to be accepted as
normal....."

   "But this is much more than infanticide" said Roberta.  She touched her
breasts.  "After what we did to our babies....  a simple infanticide would
be boring!"

   "I am sure that a sanitised form of infanticide will become accepted"
said the doctor.  "Medical ethicists are already saying that between an
infant and a fetus there is no real difference.  Sure, it will start from
cases where the mother is distressed, or from cases of disability, and it
will be regulated....  but it will go the same way as abortion.  In ten
years or so a new mom will have the option of having her baby killed, and
those who do it themselves will get away with light penalties, or with
none." She smiled.  "Here infanticide is already much more widespread than
you would think.  I think that it has been encouraged by having abortion as
the birth control method of choice for most women, rich and poor, with time
limits only in theory."

   "Is it really widespread?  I thought it was only done discreetly in a
few clinics like yours!" said Elaine.

   "Not really.  Some women I know use infanticide to get exactly the baby
they want.....  they use surrogate mothers, then get rid of the babies that
are for example the wrong gender, or eye color, or simply who are too
restless....  and the beauty of this is that they don't even have the
nuisance of being pregnant themselves!"

   Ann laughed.  "That sounds perfect!  You mean they get babies
delivered....  and kill them until they have the right one?"

   "Yes.  A friend of mine has done it, in India....  she and her husband
tried a few times and just smothered the babies they didn't like.  She was
totally casual about that......  for her it was absolutely no big deal."
She caressed her breasts.  "Other friends of mine, mainly couples, do it
just for fun.....  for the thrill of infanticide without the bother of the
pregnancy."

   "......and the more liberated among them will do much naughtier
things....  discreetly, of course!" said Roberta.

   The doctor laughed.  "Yes, of course!" She lit a cigarette.  "Actually,
without bothering with making a baby themselves or with surrogate mothers,
some of my friends have asked me to enjoy themselves with the babies born
in the clinic, just for the thrill, and I love doing it with them, as I
have done with you."

   "Abortion parties?" asked Roberta.  "I had heard about them."

   "They are fun" said the doctor.  "We amuse ourselves with a baby or
two....  sometimes we are just playful, sometimes downright sadistic.  It
depends on our mood....  but it is always sexy and liberating."

   "How about older children?  Do you think that child abuse will become
normalised in time too?" asked Anne.

   "No, I don't really believe it" replied the doctor.  "Regulated killing
may well go beyond newborn babies, a few months or even more maybe, but
abuse for pleasure and thrills is unlikely to get accepted widely."

   "I don't know" said Anne.  "I started very very sanitised, as you said,
thinking only about a swift infanticide shortly after birth....  and now
that I have opened up my darkest side, I want to explore it!  Other women
may do the same...."

   "Yes" said Roberta "and if killing babies becomes normal and accepted,
older children will also come to be seen as....  expendable."

   "Especially in third world countries" said Marja's mom.  "To me, third
world kids are just......  sex toys, to be disposed of once I have played
with them."

   Anne laughed.  "I have come to the same view.  I can't wait to have one
to play with myself."

   "Does it have to be from the third world?  How about a kid.......  whose
mother simply wants to get rid of, for her own reasons?" The doctor smiled.

   There was a pause.  "Does it happen?  Here?"

   "Yes, it does" replied the doctor.  She lit a cigarette.  "A woman I
know....  she and her husband had a daughter.  Her husband left, and she
found a new man, and he introduced her to a very hedonistic lifestyle....
sex, drugs, lovers, very very liberated, sexy, rather perverted too.  The
daughter was nearly six, taking care of her was boring and interfered with
her new life, so she decided to get rid of her." She released some smoke.
"This is much more serious than infanticide, of course....  but I was happy
to help.  I found it very exciting that she was not prepared to let her
child stand in the way of her chosen lifestyle."

   There was a short silence, broken by Anne.  "If it interfered with her
new life.....  I think she was right in getting rid of the kid." She
hesitated.  "She didn't want to giver her away for adoption, I guess."

   "No way!" said the doctor.  "For one thing, she didn't want a natural
child to turn up and make claims in a few years' time.  For another, when
she and her new man got together, and he introduced her to his circle....
which as I told you is very liberated....  they played sexually with the
kid quite a bit, and it wouldn't have been safe to let her join another
family."

   "No, of course not" said Roberta.  "Did they try to bring her up into
their lifestyle, as Marja's mom is doing?"

   "They tried it" said the doctor "but she hated it all, maybe because she
disliked her mom's new man."

   "Oh well" said Anne, lighting a cigarette "in this case, there was no
other way.  Your friend couldn't give up her new lifestyle just because of
the kid."

   Everyone nodded.  "How did they get rid of her?" asked Marja.

   "At a sex party with their friends" replied the doctor.  "I was there
too.  We took turns....  a kind of Russian roulette." She smiled at
Roberta. "The men took turns fucking her while we women sat on her face
with our pussies trying to smother her.  What gave us all a kick is that
her mother was there too, with her new man."

   "That was very cruel....." said Roberta, who was masturbating too.  "Did
any of you have any hesitation.....?"

   "Two of the women who had done nothing so extreme yet felt sorry for her
but they were so turned on that they used her all the same....  I loved the
way they let their sexuality override all their scruples."

   "That's how it should be" said Anne.

   "Yes....  and getting rid of a baby or a young kid who is no longer
wanted is liberating.  On the other hand" continued the doctor "bringing up
a kid in a sexual way is very liberating and exciting too.  I have two
twins, two girls, and educating them to our way of life has been very hot
for us."

   "I bet!" said Roberta.  "As I was telling Anne last night, I am doing it
it too, and I totally love it.  How did you go about it yourself?"

   "We were just very open, not just my husband and I, but our friends
too.....  of course with the right sort of friends.  Always nude around the
house, masturbating openly, having sex openly, with each other and with
lovers.....  reading and watching porn......  encouraging the kids to
masturbate and of course" the doctor smiled "to play with each other, with
us and with our friends too."

   "Did you also.....  abuse them?" asked Marja.

   "No, not really, I mean, we enjoyed sex with them but we did nothing
that they didn't like.  We never forced them to do anything, we just
encouraged them to explore their bodies, our bodies and those of our
closest friends....  and of our friends' kids too.  It was exciting
bringing them up totally exposed to sex, with no morals....  just enjoying
pleasure openly with no inhibitions."

   "Have you also exposed them to.....  the darker bits of what you do? 
Infanticide and so on?"

   "Gradually, yes." The doctor lit a cigarette.  "When giving them more
traditional sex education, about making babies, we told them about
abortion, and also about infanticide, as something totally natural and
normal.  I told them that women have been doing it throughout history, and
now it's illegal because of some silly Christian scruples but women can
still do it discreetly.  When they were early in their puberty I took them
to the clinic to show them how we do it...  it was the right time, when
they were at an age where birth control becomes important."

   "That's so hot...." said Marja's mother.  "Did they have any problems
with watching babies being killed?"

   "Not at all......  I even let them try it themselves......  I think that
for teenage kids imitating what adults do makes them feel more grown up
themselves.  Since I told them that we and our friends use infanticide as a
matter of course, they were keen to try it for themselves too."

   "How did they do it?"

   "I let them try the easiest methods first, drowning, and smothering with
a plastic bag.  Easy and without complications.  Then I showed them how I
do it with my pussy, and I told them that many women do it because it is
sexy and naughty and pleasurable, and they wanted to try it straight
away....."

   "Did they succeed?" Asked Roberta.  "My friend Elaine didn't at her
first attempt."

   "Well, only with some help from me, and it took them some time." The
doctor caressed her breasts.  "I was happy that they concentrated more on
their pleasure than on smothering the baby swiftly....  they didn't care at
all about taking their time and making it suffer."

   "Have you told them about the naughtier stuff, abusing the babies and
older kids?" asked Marja's mother.

   "Some of it.  We encouraged them to read sadistic stories, and when we
saw that they were turned on we talked about it, and shared our
fantasies....  which of the stories turned us on and why, and what we would
like to do.  We had some really hot sex play while talking about torture
and stuff.  So when it came to the babies in the clinic, after the first
few times I told them that some of us like to explore sadistic fun on
them....  nothing extreme, just giving them some pain to make them cry and
struggle a bit while they are being smothered.  I told them that they could
try it if they wanted."

   "Did they like it?  Any hesitation...?" asked Anne.

   "Not really" replied the doctor.  "They took to it naturally, we chatted
about some of the sadistic stories that had turned them on and they tried
this and that.  They didn't care a damn about the baby, they just wanted to
enjoy themselves."